2007 model year& old fashioned 4 wheel drive

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I am planning to purchase a 2007 Limited as soon as they become available, but only if the dash is upgraded to the optitron dash display. The dash on the vehicle now is no different then cars 20 yrs ago. The optitron dash is so clear and readable under all conditions that it also adds to the safety of the vehicle. This is the same technology used in jets. Toyota upgraded several models with this dash, I hope they don' t forget the 4Runner.

Also the present 4 wheel drive system on on the 4 runner is really super old technology. The system on the V8 is only a small improvement. The 4wheel drive system should be able to put 100% of the engine power to any one tire.

Ever wonder why Toyota is sometimes so slow to implement up to date technology? I sure do. I would have purchased the 2006 if it was not for the dash. One final note. I had halogen headlights on a car I owned in 1987, wake up Toyota ever heard of H.I.D. headlights.
 
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Also the present 4 wheel drive system on on the 4 runner is really super old technology. The system on the V8 is only a small improvement.
These statements are incorrect.

The 4wheel drive system should be able to put 100% of the engine power to any one tire.
This is called locking hubs.

I think you should buy a Jeep.
 
The present 4wheel drive system does not have the ability to transfer 100% of engine power to any one tire. this has nothing to do with locking hubs or the Jeep.
 
He is thinking of Subaru's system. But it is my understanding the 4Runner's full-time 4wd system (not all-wheel drive) is a more robust, heavy duty system for off-road use, whereas the Subaru is a light duty, car-like system.

The 4Runner uses the below:
Manually lockable differentials use a conventional differential in conjunction with a mechanical locking device which can be operated at the drivers's discretion. when locked, both axles will then turn at the same speed irrespective of the road surface. When it is unlocked, the differential functions as a conventional differential giving predictable handling, long service life and no increase in tire wear. It can be installed in both the front and rear axles without compromising on-road performance. Although manually lockable differentials are available in tractors and some military style vehicles, the installation in mass produced recreation type vehicles have been restricted by high cost and complexity of installation.
 
Re: Re: 2007 model year& old fashioned 4 wheel drive

sharp4runr said:
Whats the improvement on the V8? Isn't the V6 4WD essentially identical when put in 4HI?

The V8 is a permenant 4wheel drive system, dont confuse that with the lesser quality all wheel drive. This system is permenantly engaged and may be operated safetly on dry pavement. The V6 may not be operated in the same manner.

Plus this has nothing to do with a advanced 4wheel drive system able to put 100% engine power to any one tire.
 
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iamtwonice said:
The V8 is a permenant 4wheel drive system, dont confuse that with the lesser quality all wheel drive. This system is permenantly engaged and may be operated safetly on dry pavement. The V6 may not be operated in the same manner.

Plus this has nothing to do with a advanced 4wheel drive system able to put 100% engine power to any one tire.

You may want to do more research when you make claims like you are. The V6 4WD is the EXACT same as the V8 4WD. The V6 4WD can be run 100% of the time on dry, wet or mud and whatever else you can think.

:bash:

What did my statement have to do with putting 100% engine power to one wheel. Nothing :rolleye2:
 
Agree the optitron dash would be a nice improvement~or so says the people that have them (on the Matrix/Lexus/ect). Personally if I was in the market for a vehicle such as ours, I wouldn't hold off for that simple reason, or take another brand of vehicle simply because it has that option.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: 2007 model year& old fashioned 4 wheel drive

sharp4runr said:
You may want to do more research when you make claims like you are. The V6 4WD is the EXACT same as the V8 4WD. The V6 4WD can be run 100% of the time on dry, wet or mud and whatever else you can think.

:bash:

What did my statement have to do with putting 100% engine power to one wheel. Nothing :rolleye2:

If I am wrong and you are correct, what was the point in you even asking the question in the first place?.
 
Have you looked into the Lexus-Gx series? They have had the optitron dash for years. Likely you'd like their ammenities better than the 4Runners if you appreciate paying for them.
 
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iamtwonice said:
If I am wrong and you are correct, what was the point in you even asking the question in the first place?.

Because you said the V8 4WD was improved compared to the lesser quality 4WD. And you made reference to the V6 4WD as different than the V8.

I want you to validate that statement because you are saying it "matter of factly"
 
Mafster said:
Have you looked into the Lexus-Gx series? They have had the optitron dash for years. Likely you'd like their ammenities better than the 4Runners if you appreciate paying for them.

I own a Lexus right now. As you know very few lexus dealerships are available. The following has been documented with lexus: My first oil change the dealer Burdick Lexus overfilled my crankcase on the first oil change by half a quart, then i had the coolant changed at 30,000 miles they put prestone in it instead of the toyota brand coolant. I could go on but dont really need to, you get the point. I now have toyota service my Lexus and they do a great job. This is the reason I now want a 4runner limited insted of the lexus equivelent.
 
I hate to say it, but I will....you won't like "stepping down to a 4Runner". IMO buy another Lexus and have Toyota continue to service it. There are many refinements and nice touches on the Lexus that you'll never see on the 4Runner. I've owned many Toyotas since 1990 and though they are great, the Lexus' (again IMO) always seem about 3 years ahead of them in overall refinement (which you naturally pay for).

It would be like buying a SR5 after owning a Limited. You'd miss the things you've become accustomed to and won't be happy in the end.

I'll get off my soapbox now. :D
 
Mafster said:
I hate to say it, but I will....you won't like "stepping down to a 4Runner". IMO buy another Lexus and have Toyota continue to service it. There are many refinements and nice touches on the Lexus that you'll never see on the 4Runner. I've owned many Toyotas since 1990 and though they are great, the Lexus' (again IMO) always seem about 3 years ahead of them in overall refinement (which you naturally pay for).

It would be like buying a SR5 after owning a Limited. You'd miss the things you've become accustomed to and won't be happy in the end.

I'll get off my soapbox now. :D

You are very correct. However the next closest Lexus dealership is at least 100 miles away from me, and I refuse to purchase another vehicle from a crappy dealership. Toyota will not do waranty work or recalls. Much less aggravation to just purchase a Toyota. It is only going to be my winter rat any ways.
 
iamtwonice said:
You are very correct. However the next closest Lexus dealership is at least 100 miles away from me, and I refuse to purchase another vehicle from a crappy dealership. Toyota will not do waranty work or recalls. Much less aggravation to just purchase a Toyota. It is only going to be my winter rat any ways.

If you're waiting for the 2007 because it'll have an optitron dash.... the 4wd won't change... the engine won't change... and if you're bitching how bad Lexus/Toyota is... because they're blah blah blah is old and outdated.. why are you even on this forum or for that matter thinking of buying a 2007?

I think someone needs to stop causing trouble on the board.

oh.. do you even OWN a 4runner? which Lexus model do you own?
 
All this drama for an optitron dash?!?!?????

And what difference does it make about the 4wd system? The 4runner will get you everywhere you need to go, on or off-road, with confidence.

What real or practical advantage would there be for the 100% to one wheel 4wd system compared to the 4runners? None I would guess. Give me a flaw that you have experience with the 4runner system and then tell me how the other system would work better.
 
iamtwonice said:
I own a Lexus right now. As you know very few lexus dealerships are available. The following has been documented with lexus: My first oil change the dealer Burdick Lexus overfilled my crankcase on the first oil change by half a quart, then i had the coolant changed at 30,000 miles they put prestone in it instead of the toyota brand coolant. I could go on but dont really need to, you get the point. I now have toyota service my Lexus and they do a great job. This is the reason I now want a 4runner limited insted of the lexus equivelent.

Are you sure it is you who wont go back to the Lexus dealership or the Lexus dealership wont let you come back........It would have been hard to tell if it was overfilled half a quart depending on how level the vehicle was sitting or how long it had been sitting.....and why does it matter what brand of coolant was used as long as it was equivalent?
 
Why do you think the 2007 4Runner would have an optitron dash display? I like them too, but I don't think you'll see one in the 4th gen.
 

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