2010 4Runner Limited vs 2010 Lexus RX AWD

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Aside from being body on frame, greater towing capabilities, higher ground clearance... what's the real difference between a Limited and a Lexus RX w/ AWD? Why would one be better than the other?

Or are they really pretty much the same thing.
 
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Aside from being body on frame, greater towing capabilities, higher ground clearance... what's the real difference between a Limited and a Lexus RX w/ AWD? Why would one be better than the other?

Or are they really pretty much the same thing.

Wait did you just say that?!?

Umm one is a SUV Body instead of a Camry Body on the same exact platform.

The other is a body on frame true 4WD vehicle with a bigger motor, stouter suspension, REAL 4WD with a locking center differential, solild rear axle... the list goes on and on.

The difference is one is a Cross-Over (pooosey) with AWD to have better on road handling characteristics and one is a bigger real Body on Frame Truck/SUV (Real man)
 
Differences -

Completely different chassis
Completely different engine
Completely different suspension
Completely different drivetrain

Shall I continue?
 
Lol... But don't they do the same thing?

No...one can actually go offroad.

I also own an 05 RX330 as well as the 10 4Runner and 08 LC200 (as well as on 05 SRX).

They are night and day vehicles. If you do not need the offroad capability and don't care about the looks, then the Highlander/RX is a better bet. It's more managed on the road and better highway fuel economy, just never take it offroad.

I personally like the stiff ride of the 4Runner (limited with XRES) over the RX, but that's just me. My SRX also has much better suspension than the RX. The Highlander/RX is the difference between a miniman and a sedan -- not an SUV IMHO.
 
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Aside from being body on frame, greater towing capabilities, higher ground clearance... what's the real difference between a Limited and a Lexus RX w/ AWD? Why would one be better than the other?

Or are they really pretty much the same thing.
They are completely different.

The Lexus RX AWD system is FWD until the wheels slip. Only after the front wheels slip do the rear wheels engage, by which time you might be stuck. The RX does not allow you to lock the front and rear driveshafts together, nor does it have a low range.

The 4Runner Limited has a lockable, limited slip center differential. The result is that the Limited sends torque to both the front and rear axle all the time. Further, you can lock the center diff, which makes the front and rear driveshafts turn at the same rate. In addition, the 4Runner has a low range.

In summary, the 4Runner has significant offroad capabilities. The RX basically has none. If you are mostly concerned with getting to work in a snowstorm, the RX is probably more than enough. If you want to go offroad, the 4Runner will work, but the RX won't.
 
The RX has...

Active Torque Control all-wheel drive (AWD) with variable torque split and manual-locking center differential if the Limited has all-time 4wd - which I assume means it drives primarily in rear-wheel drive until senors determine slippage - that its pretty much the same? But without 4LO? No?

They are completely different.

The Lexus RX AWD system is FWD until the wheels slip. Only after the front wheels slip do the rear wheels engage, by which time you might be stuck. The RX does not allow you to lock the front and rear driveshafts together, nor does it have a low range.

The 4Runner Limited has a lockable, limited slip center differential. The result is that the Limited sends torque to both the front and rear axle all the time. Further, you can lock the center diff, which makes the front and rear driveshafts turn at the same rate. In addition, the 4Runner has a low range.

In summary, the 4Runner has significant offroad capabilities. The RX basically has none. If you are mostly concerned with getting to work in a snowstorm, the RX is probably more than enough. If you want to go offroad, the 4Runner will work, but the RX won't.
 
Lol... But don't they do the same thing?

So, what's the difference between an RX AWD and a Huffy Bicycle? They do the same thing, they both get you from point A to point B. How technical do you want to get here? Maybe you should get a bike, essentially it does the 'same thing' :)
 
The RX has...

Active Torque Control all-wheel drive (AWD) with variable torque split and manual-locking center differential if the Limited has all-time 4wd - which I assume means it drives primarily in rear-wheel drive until senors determine slippage - that its pretty much the same? But without 4LO? No?

Completely incorrect. The AWD system can ADJUST power from fore to aft depending on acceleration and traction. I am not sure what the bias is normally at, but most are 40/60.

The Limited's full-time 4WD system is a true 4WD system. All 4 wheels are provided power. When turning power is not shifted, but rather the LSD in the front and rear "slip" allowing the vehicle to corner (outside wheel needs to spin faster). Also, the front tires need to spin faster than the rear when turning (although not as much from fore to aft as from left to right). The center differential allows this.

Read up on the pros/cons of a full-time triple LSD system. It's FAR different than an AWD system.
 
The RX has...

Active Torque Control all-wheel drive (AWD) with variable torque split and manual-locking center differential if the Limited has all-time 4wd - which I assume means it drives primarily in rear-wheel drive until senors determine slippage - that its pretty much the same? But without 4LO? No?

Are you just stirring the pot? I hope so cause with a user name that has "offroad" in it you sure are showing your ignorance...:hello:
 
The RX has...

Active Torque Control all-wheel drive (AWD) with variable torque split and manual-locking center differential if the Limited has all-time 4wd - which I assume means it drives primarily in rear-wheel drive until senors determine slippage - that its pretty much the same? But without 4LO? No?

1) The 2010 Lexus RX no longer has a locking center diff.
2) In normal driving, the RX sends 100% of the torque to the front wheels.
3) In normal driving, the 4Runner sends a portion (I believe 40%) of the torque to the front wheels.

In summary, in normal operation, the 4Runner sends torque to all 4 wheels. In normal operation, the RX sends torque to just the front wheels. The RX doesn't send torque to the rear wheels until it senses slip.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

Are you just stirring the pot? I hope so cause with a user name that has "offroad" in it you sure are showing your ignorance...:hello:
Some have argued that the Limited's Full-time 4WD with Active Traction Control (A-TRAC) and locking center differential... isn't designed for "serious" use off-road... so I just wanted some clarification.

1) The 2010 Lexus RX no longer has a locking center diff.

Sorry... the 2010 RX does have a manual-locking center differential. I just drove a loaner RX while my Lexus was being serviced. And the content I posted initially was pulled straight from Lexus.com

No...one can actually go offroad.

So it's how you define the term "off-road"

They are night and day vehicles. If you do not need the offroad capability and don't care about the looks, then the Highlander/RX is a better bet. It's more managed on the road and better highway fuel economy, just never take it offroad.

I personally like the stiff ride of the 4Runner (limited with XRES) over the RX, but that's just me.

Again, I just wanted some clarification as to whether or not a Limited is as off-road worthy as an SR5. Because some seem to think the Limited is on-par with a Lexus RX
 
Again, I just wanted some clarification as to whether or not a Limited is as off-road worthy as an SR5.
?????????? Good grief. Other than the 20" wheels on the Limited, why wouldn't it be?

When you lock the center diff on a Limited, the front and rear axles turn at the same speed. When you put an SR5 in 4WD, the front and rear axles turn at the same speed. Explain the difference to me.

Because some seem to think the Limited is on-par with a Lexus RX
I don't see anyone other than yourself arguing that.

Sorry... the 2010 RX does have a manual-locking center differential. I just drove a loaner RX while my Lexus was being serviced. And the content I posted initially was pulled straight from Lexus.com
No, it doesn't. See:

The previous RX350 model’s AWD system used a viscous coupling locking center differential to provide 50:50 torque distribution. In the 2010 RX350, Active Torque Control AWD uses an electronically controlled coupling ahead of the rear differential to vary torque distribution anywhere from 100:0 to 50:50 front to rear, depending on driving dynamics and road conditions. The new AWD system is 35lbs. lighter than before and reduces parasitic losses by 30%. When accelerating, or starting off on a low-grip surface, torque is quickly provided to all four wheels. At steady speeds, torque is sent only to the front wheels, enhancing fuel efficiency.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/4733/2010-lexus-rx350-review-test-drive
 
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Again, I just wanted some clarification as to whether or not a Limited is as off-road worthy as an SR5. Because some seem to think the Limited is on-par with a Lexus RX

Who is 'some' you are talking about? Cindy from the City? Anyone with basic vehicle knowledge can tell you the RX & 4R's are two totally different animals, and I almost fell out of my chair when you said the RX was as 'off-road' worthy as the 4R. Sure, if you call 2" of snow at your local mall "Off-Road" then sure, they both can handle it without a sweat. Now if you are on trails, miles from the nearest paved road, rocks, mud, water, deep sand, I hope you have a good AAA friend to come get you in the RX because it can NOT keep up, it is fact. If you plan to take the RX on 'dirt roads' and over curbs then that is the 'car' for you! Again I ask, why not get a mountain bike, that can take you 'off-road'?
 
So it's how you define the term "off-road"

Here is how I define "off-road"- This is my 2007 FJ Cruiser, VERY similar to the Trail and SR5 4Runner in 2010. Part-Time 4WD with IFS, and a linked-coil suspension out back (also a rear e-locker and ATRAC, but that doesn't help in this pic)...

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Show me an RX that can do that. I haven't seen one, but I can spot any stock 2010 4Runner down that (albeit with a couple of scrapes)
 

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