2010 4Runner

thebobs

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How are the 2010 4Runners? I have looked in Consumer Reports and they rated them low. Now I'm not sure if part of it has to do with the mess Toyota has been in lately, but it wouldn't stop me from getting another 4Runner.

So for those of you who have the 2010 version, how is it compared to the previous generation. I heard they redesigned it, so not sure what is really new about it (other than the rear side back window look that I saw in pictures).
 
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As far as I can tell, it is going to be quite reliable. Transmission = carryover, engine = minor update (went to dual VVT and uses the same basic engine design that the 2GR has had, w/ cam carriers, roller rockers, and 3 timing chains)... and that engine is very reliable. The previous generation was one of the most reliable vehicles you could buy per JD Power 3 year dependability study, so that bodes well for this generation considering this is mostly a heavy refresh.

By "low" rating, what do you mean? CR tends to hit the 4Runner pretty hard for ride comfort, much like the Wrangler, but the reliability ratings are quite good.

1000 mi in and mine is perfect.
 
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sorry to hear about your troubles, ive had 5000 trouble-free miles, so it looks like maybe yours was one of the unlucky lemons?

what did CR have to say about the car? when i was a member a few months back, they still didnt have a review up
 
sorry to hear about your troubles, ive had 5000 trouble-free miles, so it looks like maybe yours was one of the unlucky lemons?

what did CR have to say about the car? when i was a member a few months back, they still didnt have a review up

Road TestSR5 V6The redesigned 4Runner remains a body-on-frame SUV, good for towing and off-roading but not much else. The ride is unsettled and handling is mediocre at best, although it doesn't suffer from the same handling woes that beset its sister vehicle the Lexus GX 460 (which will be fixed in a recall). A high step-in and low ceiling compromise access and driving position. The four-wheel-drive system in SR5 trim is part-time only. The engine is powerful and relatively fuel-efficient but sounds a little rough. Reliability of this redesign is unknown but the 4Runner scores too low to be recommended even if it had the previous generation's top-notch reliability.

The Driving Experience Ride comfort & noise: Soft springing masks road bumps pretty well at low speeds but body motions are constant and grow wearing. Even mild braking provokes nosedive. The highway ride is OK but even there pavement flaws make the body bob. The cabin stays quiet most of the time, except for modest wind rush and fairly coarse engine hum.

Handling: Handling is clumsy. Even in routine cornering maneuvers the body leans considerably. Bobbing and bouncing chips away at driver confidence. The steering feels vague and disconnected from the road and it's also very light. The wide, 45-foot turning circle makes parking a chore. In the tight turns of our track, the 4Runner reached its cornering limits early on. The stability control system intervened appropriately to keep the vehicle from swinging out, but the 4Runner managed only a low speed through our avoidance maneuver, leaning a lot and sometimes lifting a front wheel momentarily.

Powertrain: The 4.0-liter, 270-hp V6 engine provides quick acceleration and consumed an average of 18 mpg on regular fuel. The five-speed automatic shifts smoothly. The 4Runner easily towed our 5,000-pound test trailer to 60 mph in 17.3 seconds, a very good performance. The crude, part-time four-wheel-drive system has low range gearing and hill-start and hill-descent features, and the 4Runner did very well in our off-road evaluations. A full-time system comes only on the Limited version.

Braking: Overall performance was very good.

Headlights: The halogen low beams provide good illumination with very good levels of light intensity. The halogen high-beams provide excellent forward visibility and maintain the very good levels of intensity of the low beam. Although there's a visible cutoff between light and darkness at the top of the low-beam pattern, it's softer than many other vehicles.


Inside The Cabin Driving position: Low seating, a high dash, and modest head room do away with the commanding view out that one expects from a vehicle like this. The steering wheel tilts and telescopes, and there's plenty of knee and foot room. The rear-view camera helps with parking but its image, in the rear-view mirror, is small and far away.

Seat comfort and access: The front seats are firm, with just adequate side support and short, flat cushions. Our drivers liked the adjustable lumbar feature. The rear seat is fairly roomy for two or three adults; the seatbacks recline. It takes a bit of a climb to get in or out and the low ceiling requires some ducking as well.

Controls and gauges: The large, backlighted displays are easy to read. Major control knobs are large but some, such as the temperature, radio-tuning, and defrost selector, are far away. The tiny, indistinct lettering on the radio display drew many complaints. The manual climate control system works well. A handy power-retractable rear window increases airflow through the cabin and lets you load long objects such as a few 2x4s or a wind surfer.

Interior fit and finish: The interior design goes for a rugged look but still comes up short for a vehicle costing close to $40,000. Dashboard plastics are all hard and look cheap. At least the door panels have stitched soft-touch panels. There are several uneven gap lines and flash and mold lines on parts.

Cabin storage and cargo room: Moderate cabin storage includes a deep console compartment and numerous small bins and nooks. The 40/20/40-split rear seats fold down to create a generous cargo hold with a flat floor.


Safety Notes Safety belts: Front belts have pretensioners and force limiters.

Air bags: Front, side and knee air bags protect front occupants. Head-level curtain bags protect front and rear outboard occupants. Sensors disable the front passenger's front and knee air bags if they detect a child-sized occupant or if the seat is empty.

Head restraints: All seats have adjustable, locking head restraints. The front ones remain sufficiently tall -- even when lowered -- to offer protection. Outboard rear restraints must be raised if the seat is occupied, and are tall enough to protect an adult. The center rear restraint is too low to protect an adult.

Crash-avoidance systems: Antilock brakes and stability control are standard.

Driving with kids: It can be hard to secure a rear-facing infant seat with belts alone. Front-facing seats are easier to manage. LATCH anchors are awkward to reach but are able to secure front- or rear-facing child seats. The rear seatbacks provide three top-tethers.


Reliability We do not have data to predict reliability, this model is new.

Tested model: 2010 SR5 4-door SUV 4WD, 4.0-liter V6, 5-speed automatic
Major options: Moonroof, Bluetooth, USB port, backup camera, leather heated power seats.
This road test applies to the current model year of this vehicle.
 
5th generation

How are the 2010 4Runners? I have looked in Consumer Reports and they rated them low. Now I'm not sure if part of it has to do with the mess Toyota has been in lately, but it wouldn't stop me from getting another 4Runner.

So for those of you who have the 2010 version, how is it compared to the previous generation. I heard they redesigned it, so not sure what is really new about it (other than the rear side back window look that I saw in pictures).

Hey "thebobs"..I'm also seriously looking into purchasing a 2010 and I was really excited about it. I already put the word out looking for a Limited with
3rd row, so this thread really kills me. I was sort of convinced but that CR report is not making me feel good. Ouch. CR's not always right and I'm hoping others out there are really happy with their 2010's.
 
Personally, I think Consumer Reports is a joke. And, as always it really depends on who's reviewing any given vehicle. Personally, I think the 4Runner is excellent and the build quality (at least w/ mine) is top notch.

"Reliability of this redesign is unknown but the 4Runner scores too low to be recommended even if it had the previous generation's top-notch reliability."

That makes me laugh. What a joke. I see old 4Runners all over Colorado and most of the time, aside from their old body style - they look great.

I think consumer reviews on Edmunds provide a better idea of what people think. Real world experience.
 
Meh, I'll agree with some of what CR says. Don't see how anyone can complain about the ride, it's a truck for crying out loud not a luxury sedan. I think it handles great for a truck. I traded in a 2008 Silverado to get my 4Runner and they generally give that truck good reviews. That thing rode like an out of control train. Worst handling pickup truck I've ever owned. Not to mention the 48 rattles and creaks I had from day 1.

To the OP, go take a new 4Runner for a test drive and see what you think.
 
I agree with CR on the handling and the radio display.

My '03 has much better handling and the steering is nice and tight.
 
2010 4runner

I test drove the 5th generation and I thought it had a better turning radius than my '03 Honda Pilot. I also wonder whether the Limited with its XREAS sports suspension, might give a better ride than the SR5 they test drove in the CR article. I also wonder whether the NAVI package gives the display a better look and eliminates the display problems CR is referring to. I only test drove the SR5, and the Limited is supposed to have some sort of suspension which gives the car a better ride, but I'm not sure. The instrument panel certainly does have bulky buttons, but since I want the car I convinced myself that it's not a bad look.
 
I think you just have to remember who CR's customer is. They are writing this for the everyman. For the everyman, a CUV is superior. For people that actually use their 4Runners for what it is designed to do, a CUV just can't hack it.

I agree with the stereo display difficult to read in direct sunlight. Otherwise it is business as usual for a truck based SUV. If you weren't expecting that when you bought a BoF SUV w/out an IRS, you should probably do a little more research.
 
I test drove the 5th generation and I thought it had a better turning radius than my '03 Honda Pilot. I also wonder whether the Limited with its XREAS sports suspension, might give a better ride than the SR5 they test drove in the CR article. I also wonder whether the NAVI package gives the display a better look and eliminates the display problems CR is referring to. I only test drove the SR5, and the Limited is supposed to have some sort of suspension which gives the car a better ride, but I'm not sure. The instrument panel certainly does have bulky buttons, but since I want the car I convinced myself that it's not a bad look.

I think the XREAS(Limited) or KDSS(option on Trail) would help some with the handling, but not the steering feel.

NAV would also solve the radio display issue.
 
CR is just an opinion. there are many other great reviews out there for the 4runner. CR can go to hell imho. You see the bogus ratings on other things? Example, they rated behr home depot paint in past much better than benjamin moore. Hello. WTF. Home depot paint is the absolute worse! Paint goes on so thin, everything shows below, needs 5-6 coats minimum!

CR - why dont you compare the limited to the sr5. I agree the sr5 handles like jello compared to the limited, but i didnt need YOU to tell me that..and what is the alternative to the 4runner? Jeep, Kia borrego, Nissan pathfinder?


I personally think CR has an agenda ever since toyota recalls took place.
 
I'm really surprised with CR's review of the handling and ride. I've had at least 3 people who rode in my TE (with KDSS) comment on how smooth the ride is. One of whom was pushing me to buy a tricked-out Pathfinder and doesn't like the new 2010 4Runners.

Yes the display sucks in daylight.

I've grown to like the large knobs on the dash. They may appear cheap but they are VERY easy to find and adjust, especially with your eyes on the road.
 
I personally think CR has an agenda ever since toyota recalls took place.

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I think they're just covering their own ass in case something else comes up in those congressional hearings....

Although, many people do hold CR as a standard. What do you think this, along with all the toyota shenanigans, is going to do to the resale value? Or are you just planning on driving the truck till it dies, in which case it doesnt matter...
 
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"The steering feels vague and disconnected from the road and it's also very light."

Compared to my 3rd gen T4R, I have to agree whole heartedly with this statement. I felt a lot more connected with the road driving my 2001. I'm used to driving taught handling sports cars, so the feel of the 5th gen is a new experience for me.

"Handling is clumsy. Even in routine cornering maneuvers the body leans considerably. Bobbing and bouncing chips away at driver confidence."

"Soft springing masks road bumps pretty well at low speeds but body motions are constant and grow wearing. Even mild braking provokes nosedive. The highway ride is OK but even there pavement flaws make the body bob."

Although I do agree that the steering input 'feels' soft, I do not find the handling to be clumsy. It's a 4600+ Lb truck! I can handle a set of familiar S-curves with a suggested 20 mph speed limit without dropping from the 40 mph speed limit on either side of them without drama. I don't drive the 4Runner like a sports car.

For the most part, the handling issues seem like they might be resolved with a set of higher rate springs (and maybe stiffer shocks). It would be interesting to know what the spring-to-vehicle weight rate ratio was on my 3rd gen compared to that of the 5th gen.

Yes, the CR report is a bit disheartening, but I am very happy with my 5th gen. It is certainly the most quiet vehicle I have owned.
 
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oh and btw - the steering is one of my favorite aspects. I'm used to a front wheel drive Honda Accord which is very "thick" feeling. The 4Runner's steering is effortless - can steer with my pinky.
 
imho, the resale value of 95% of all cars/suvs on road today will plummit in about 5-10 years. why? oil supply, warm climate etc...should i go on (and thats if nothing happens in 2012)?

getting back to the 4r review by cr, i would trust edmunds, road and track, or another respectable car magazine. I would just wipe my... on that review.
 
CR is just an opinion. there are many other great reviews out there for the 4runner. CR can go to hell imho. You see the bogus ratings on other things? Example, they rated behr home depot paint in past much better than benjamin moore. Hello. WTF. Home depot paint is the absolute worse! Paint goes on so thin, everything shows below, needs 5-6 coats minimum!

CR - why dont you compare the limited to the sr5. I agree the sr5 handles like jello compared to the limited, but i didnt need YOU to tell me that..and what is the alternative to the 4runner? Jeep, Kia borrego, Nissan pathfinder?


I personally think CR has an agenda ever since toyota recalls took place.

I agree. Their review seems a little brutal, particularly since it specifically complains about the handling yet never mentions there are different suspension options across the line.

Their rating of the 4Runner in the Midsize category below such vehicles as the Saturn Outlook, GMC Acadia, and Dodge Journey - all of which have below average predicted reliability - after several generations of very high owner satisfaction and reliability is ridiculous.
 

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