2011 auto to manual swap

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xtoy4runner88x

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theres nothing anywhere on this so i thought id ask you guys, I just got a 2011 trail edition 4runner. does anyone know if the 6spd fj crusier tranny would swap into the 4runner? i miss driving manual. when i do drive it i leave it in sport mode so i can shift it..but i really want a manual. has anyone tried this or thought of this?. :ybrick:
 
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xtoy4runner88x said:
theres nothing anywhere on this so i thought id ask you guys, I just got a 2011 trail edition 4runner. does anyone know if the 6spd fj crusier tranny would swap into the 4runner? i miss driving manual. when i do drive it i leave it in sport mode so i can shift it..but i really want a manual. has anyone tried this or thought of this?. :ybrick:
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Anything is possible if you have the tools, means and expertise. Here is probably the question you want to ask: Is it economically feasible to completely change perfectly good transmissions in a one year old vehicle? Only you can answer that.
 
1engineer said:
Anything is possible if you have the tools, means and expertise. Here is probably the question you want to ask: Is it economically feasible to completely change perfectly good transmissions in a one year old vehicle? Only you can answer that.
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Along those lines; it's probably cheaper to simply trade in the vehicle for one with a manual transmission.

Okki
 
Just go buy some beater with a stick so you can get your 'fix' then enjoy driving your 4R the way it was designed to run.
 
I have to agree with the general sentiment here, don't do it. Along with the expected mechanical issues of putting a manual into a vehicle that was never intended for one there is also the issue of ECUs. Unlike older vehicles, modern ones have a computer for EVERYTHIING. So you'll have to address any issues where the 4Runner's computers are expecting something from the stock tranny/transfer case and whatever you swap in.

As much as I like driving a stick, it doesn't seem like something that is going to get much return for your investment of time and money, if it can even be done.
 
Freakin Wimps!

The world was not built by those who cry it can't be done. Real men ignore conventional wisdom, cost benefit analysis and common sense. Move forward, damn the practicalities.

Did we give up when Germany bombed Pear Harbor? :dammit:
 
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I think this motor would be 10X better with a 6 speed manual behind it. Would it be anything I would undertake? NO!

If I was going to do it I think I would go full Toyota diesel swap with a manual...If I had 23K to play with I would be here, Toyota and add a SAS.

It might be a consideration when the current drivetrain has about 250-300K on it, as by that time I am sure all new vehicles will be just terrible. :biggrin2:
 
I really don't think toyota would do this.. and, even if they would, they would, most definitely, add a clause about this being covered..

That would be plain dumb for them to cover a complex conversion like that.


A shop a do some work for has those requests often.. but at around 20K pricetag, most people run away, and trade their cars.
 
xtoy4runner88x said:
not if toyota does it.. lol.. i think it would run much better.. driving it in sport mode really picks up when you step on the gas.. .. if anything is there some sort of shift kit for the transmission?
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Incorrect. Dealerships can and will often help install aftermarket goodies, under the understanding that it may void your warrenty. Your warrenty covers X running at Y, which was tested in that specific configuration. Before Toyota or ANY maker releases a vehicle they do road/real world tests to see if a specific vehicle configuration is reliable.

Your warrenty is very, very specific. Failure to follow specific mantiance guidlines can and will often void a warrenty. This is why, at least while in warrenty, you have the dealership do the oil changes. They will have a record and there isn't a risk of some admin clerk somewhere blaming lack of oil changes.

While I doubt a toyota shop would do this, there isn't any policy against it that I am aware of, as long as the customer is fully aware it will void a warrenty.
Dealerships make a lot of profit off of NON-WARRENTY repair work. Having someone with too much money on their hands asking them to do a complete tranny replacment would be a lot of bucks for them and in these lean times you may very well have a dealership do it depending.

Since Toyota has not tested that configuration, how would you ever know its reliavbility? You can't honestly expect Toyota to cover a malfunction on a custom design that they didn't invent? That is ridiclulous to assume that is their liability.
 
ViperNL said:
Did anyone do this yet? I would think you can just drop the FJ's is 6 speed in it.
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Mechanically you probably could, after you cut the hole in the transmission tunnel and cut up the center console a bit. The biggest issue is going to be how you get the ECM to not freak the **** out now that there's no transmission connected to it.

At best you could probably rewire it to an FJ's ECM, but that's assuming all the plugs on a 2010~2014 FJ would be the same on the 5th gen (a big if as Toyota does like to do inline changes without real documentation on them sometimes), if I recall correctly the ECT is baked into the ECM on these vehicles. Your best bet would probably be to get a complete Engine & Transmission from an FJ Cruiser and the associated wiring harness to make it work properly. You might also need the transfercase and the 4WD module as well depending on how it integrates.
 
Anymore work on this? Seeing that the 4runner and Tacoma share engines, and the Tacoma comes with a manual....all the mechanical bits are available, someone has to figure out the ECU.

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