2013 Ford F-150 FX4 tempting.

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My buddy bought a 2013 F-150 Platinum last winter and I was in it for the first time last weekend. I have to say I am pretty impressed with that truck. Ford did a really good job on the current generation, I really like how spacious the interior is compared to my 4Runner, you can tilt a drink up without hitting the roof! also it has a lot of nice bells and whistles, heated and A/C leather seats are pretty cool.

Just in general a really nice looking truck, I really like the FX appearance package. Toyota needs something like that.

Anyone else liking the new F-150's? do they have any issues? what sort of negatives are there?

I'm not sure I could part with my 4Runner just yet but the new F-150 is tempting.
 

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If I lived where the trails are wider like out west I'd give serious consideration to getting a Ford Raptor F-150.

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I'd look at those if I lived in the US where there are lots of desert off road areas, Raptor would be good fun flying through the desert.

Raptors are also quite expensive, the reason a fully loaded FX4 is tempting is because its not too much more expensive than my 4Runner per month.

I'm curious to know what people think of the new f-150s though, I haven't heard anything negative about them.
 
If I had 40k or so to drop on a new set of wheels, an F150 with the new Ecoboost would give a loaded doublecab Taco a run for it's money.
 
If I had 40k or so to drop on a new set of wheels, an F150 with the new Ecoboost would give a loaded doublecab Taco a run for it's money.

Yeah, the Ecoboost seems pretty good. My buddy has the Ecoboost in his Platinum and we towed his 33ft trailer through the mountains last weekend and it pulled it no problem. Not sure If I'd get the Ecoboost or the V8 though. I love me some V8 smoothness and I don't think mpg is much different.
 
If I had 40k or so to drop on a new set of wheels, an F150 with the new Ecoboost would give a loaded doublecab Taco a run for it's money.

That's a mid size to a full size comparison, I don't see that as applicable. Or did you mean a Tundra? And on that note of course it's more spacious, it's a full size truck, not a smaller sized SUV (unless I'm missing something).


And I haven't read up much on the new F-150s, I just know they're Found On Road Dead name sake proceeds them where I'm from.
 
I don't really have any love for the Raptor. Not that I'd kick one out of bed for eating crackers, but the styling is kind of overblown and I could buy a base model F150 and make it more capable for less money. Kinda like a Wrangler Rubicon, they're awesome but overpriced.

Everybody I know with the Ecoboost says it pulls like a diesel and gets twice the mileage around town though. I'd have a hard time choosing between that and the smaller Taco with awesome Yotaness under the hood.

Maybe I need one of each to help me decide.
 
That's a mid size to a full size comparison, I don't see that as applicable. Or did you mean a Tundra? And on that note of course it's more spacious, it's a full size truck, not a smaller sized SUV (unless I'm missing something).

I think the F150 is in between the Taco and the Tundra, size wise? Anyway, if I were dropping silly money on a new truck, those would be my choices. The Tundras are nice, and if I needed a real working truck would be on top of my list, but they're huge. I wouldn't want to drive a trail with one or daily drive it either.
 
When I had my Tundra a few guys had come over from F150's and said they would never go back. Lot of issues with the Eco Boost to. Trannies blowing up and not so great gas mileage. Have heard to stick with the 5.0. I checked them out before I bought my Tundra and did not care for them. I would just do your homework and check out the Ford forums.
 
Good luck with that Ford--hope you still like it when the interior starts falling apart, the door switches start screwing up, and basically anything that isn't the engine or drivetrain starts failing because they built it using the cheapest parts available. Yeah, they last a long time and do a lot of work, but will that make up for the fact that you're ticked off about all the little things after 20k miles? Climb in a 20 year old Toyota and most everything STILL works, without having been replaced somewhere down the line.
 
If I was to buy a domestic truck, it would be ford. Farmers swear by them out here, and they're the only big 3 company that didn't need to get bailed out. I would still go with a Tundra any day over ford, I just don't trust them.

Raptors are nice, but it's a pricey gas guzzler with the 6.2 litre engine
 
If I was to buy a domestic truck, it would be ford. Farmers swear by them out here, and they're the only big 3 company that didn't need to get bailed out. I would still go with a Tundra any day over ford, I just don't trust them.

Raptors are nice, but it's a pricey gas guzzler with the 6.2 litre engine

I really like the current Tundra's but just like the 2014 4Runner, the new 2014 tundra looks like crap. something about it makes it look like a bigger Honda ridgeline in the front.
 
I really like the current Tundra's but just like the 2014 4Runner, the new 2014 tundra looks like crap. something about it makes it look like a bigger Honda ridgeline in the front.

It looks like big 3 with a splash of ridgeline. I would take the 14 runner over the Tundra if I had to pick one. I hope they don't ugly up the Tacoma when it's time comes.
 
It looks like big 3 with a splash of ridgeline. I would take the 14 runner over the Tundra if I had to pick one. I hope they don't ugly up the Tacoma when it's time comes.

The Tacoma and the Sequoia are the only ones they haven't screwed up yet. I hope they get enough negative feedback during this gen that they do a better job on the 2017 4Runner and whatever the next Tundra is.
 
It is all in what you want out of the truck. With family members owning 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton pickups from the big 3 as well as two Tundras, I will say I would pick an F150 first with a Tundra being a close second. Concerns over the Ecoboost have merit, but seem to be here and there. Ford's AC system, or lack thereof, is also drawing ire from hot customers in hot states for it isn't cooling enough.

As with most American autos, you have to cross your fingers when buying one. My family has Chevy and Ford trucks with over 300,000 miles and 20+ years on them while other American cars have literally died before being a decade old.
 
My old man has a 2011 F-150 and he and I both live it. The only issues with it so far is a little electrical demon in the passenger window switch. It will roll down but not back up. Otherwise is is a really nice truck. The backseat is smaller and less comfortable than a crew can Tundra though (he's had both).
 
Long post disclaimer!

I'll throw my opinion in since I also own a 2012 F150 w/ecoboost. I'll start off by saying that it was down to the tundra and the F150 when the time came to buy. The things that swayed me was the fact that I could get a crew cab with a 6.5' bed in the f150, the 36 gallon fuel tank in the f150, and the higher payload rating in the f150 ( mine has 1700# payload, yellow sticker in door jam). That being said, my '08 4Runner has been flawless so the reliability factor was going for the Tundra. Honestly, I don't really like the interior of the Tundra. Those oversized knobs are just out of place. I've seen some videos of the 2014 tundra and I like that interior much better. Outside is other story though.

Back to reliability, there are some known issues with the f150s. If you go by the numbers on the forums, there are more issues, but there are far more f150s out there compared to the tundra. I have had two issues with mine in the 28k miles I've owned it. First was the intercooler cracked. This was fixed by ford. Second, the truck developed a slight mis in 5th and 6th gears with light throttle. Ford couldn't find anything. No surprise here, I've had terrible luck with all dealers when it comes to service. A little diagnosing by myself led me to the spark plugs. Since then, no more mis.

In my area, the ecoboost is great. I live and work close to 7000' elevation. Plenty of power for towing. I'm in the high desert of the SW so humidity is of little concern to me. Why humidity? Well, it turns out that the design of the intercooler on the ecoboost f150 is prone to condensing the charge air in very humid climates. Throw in extended steady, light throttle conditions and the intercooler can collect enough water to make the engine stumble, stall, or even damage the engine. There has been quite a stink about this all over the web. The strange thing is that not all f150s do this. It still is a small percentage of owners affected.

Some 2011 f150s were plagued by faulty transmission pumps that leaked. That was supposedly fixed for 2012 and later. The transmissions actually seem pretty good on the f150. There are a number of folks driving 500hp (crank hp) ecoboosts with no trans issues. The AC in the f150 does suck. I've helped mine by insulating the AC lines but still it should be better. My previous 150k silverado and my 4runner will throw ice cubes at you after 10 minutes.

The ecoboost does get better mpg than a tundra but not by much. Actually, mpg is all over the place for the eco. Personally, I've been getting 22 mpg with mixed driving. Early on the truck was only getting 15. It took about 22k miles for it to finally start getting good mpg. City mpg is not very good for the eco because it is in boost a lot with city driving. If your into more power, some company's are making some impressive gains with only a hand-held tuner. Like 90hp and 100+lb ft of torque gains with no impact on mpg.

In the end, it boils down to luck, or whatever you want to call it. Look on the tundra forums. Lots of leaking water pumps and blown steering racks. Little things, the OEM stereo is better in the tundra. The SYNC system in the ford is a joke. My f150 has almost as much frame flex as the tundra but it's still less than my '69 f100, my ex's 91 f150, my dad's 94 f150, and my company 97 f150. Guess thats a ford thing. Never noticed it on my gm's.

Sorry for the long post.
 
I'll see if my brother wants to post why he chose the F150 over the other options, but I know that he is loving his FX4 EcoBoost.

Zero problems so far, and honestly I was extremely surprised at the overall aesthetics and quality of the interior. IMO exterior looks are almost entirely subjective - with exceptions, e.g. Pontiac Aztek, Nissan Juke, PT Cruiser...

So far he has put some Method 17x8.5 Double Standards with Toyo Open Country 285/70s, Bilsteins all around and tomorrow is getting the RPG Stage 2 rear suspension installed. He's also going to remove those running boards on Saturday. Took it off road about a week ago and he said it performed great, so I'll take his word for it.

*Edit Here's a picture of it:
 

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