The Waco Kid
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I'm determined to get my meme's right... How does this one work?
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I credit all my time of Football forums for my comprehension of sarcasm... It get's pretty rough over there. This place is pretty tame.
2014 Gas Mileage
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I'm determined to get my meme's right... How does this one work?
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I credit all my time of Football forums for my comprehension of sarcasm... It get's pretty rough over there. This place is pretty tame.
1engineer
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dubveeT4R
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So, everyone with a '14 that responded is getting better mileage than me:
Sac State – 20.3
The Waco Kid – 18
ToyotaDoodz – 18.8
2014 Warthog – 19
wesrick – 17.9
Granted, it appears that most are in warmer climates, and they're probably not dealing with the winter gas that I ran for several months, (as suggested by 1engineer) so I guess I'll just wait it out and see where I'm at in another five months or so.
I should have clarified upfront that I'm running only 87 octane (as with the 2010). I appreciate that higher octane gas may increase the mileage, as would non-ETOH gas, but that wasn't the purpose of the post. It just seems strange that, all things being equal, that the mileage is worse than in my '10.
FWIW, I'm also posting the worst mileage of any '14 on Fuelly.
Sac State – 20.3
The Waco Kid – 18
ToyotaDoodz – 18.8
2014 Warthog – 19
wesrick – 17.9
Granted, it appears that most are in warmer climates, and they're probably not dealing with the winter gas that I ran for several months, (as suggested by 1engineer) so I guess I'll just wait it out and see where I'm at in another five months or so.
I should have clarified upfront that I'm running only 87 octane (as with the 2010). I appreciate that higher octane gas may increase the mileage, as would non-ETOH gas, but that wasn't the purpose of the post. It just seems strange that, all things being equal, that the mileage is worse than in my '10.
FWIW, I'm also posting the worst mileage of any '14 on Fuelly.
The Waco Kid
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It's most likely a number of things, but the most critical is driving style. Pay real strict attention to how often you come to a complete stop, how hard you accelerate, and how often you apply the brakes in general.
I live in Houston. It's flat. I'm pretty sure I've been on Summer gas for the entirety of my ownership. I'm easy on the gas pedal and thoughtful when applying the brake (coasting more vs. braking heavily). Tires are aired properly. It's a number of things.
Most of my driving is 70 city, 30 hwy.
17 was my worst with a full tank, but my driving was more like 90/10 city/hwy and the truck was still new.
Best I saw was 22.5 on a 250 mile trip between Houston and Dallas.
Are you carrying anything heavy in the vehicle with you? I can't imagine living in a warmer climate has too much of an effect, seeing as we probably run our air conditioner much more/more heavily. (I could be very wrong)
The biggest thing to improve your mpg, aside from buying a small "eco" car is to adjust how you drive. Adhering to the posted speed limit is not enough.
if you feel it's taking to long to shift, put it in "S" and shift sooner.
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2014 Warthog
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Actually what is your tire pressure? I have mine at 35 lbs. Tire is rated for 45 max.
Veet Skeet
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I have been getting 16.5-17 in my 2014 Trail Edition 4x4 so far. Roads around me are around 45-50 speed limit most of the time, lots of stop lights and if you hit one red, then you'll hit em all red.
Just got Goodyear Duratracs on the truck so we will see how much that makes my MPGs drop. Only got under 2000 miles on the truck as well.
Just got Goodyear Duratracs on the truck so we will see how much that makes my MPGs drop. Only got under 2000 miles on the truck as well.
You have many post on here, give me something a bit more educated then a single word of sarcasm to my statement.
Explain to me not why I'm incorrect in my post, but as to why I would have to lie on my first post in the forums. Anything else about octane rating and power or efficiency is already a debate on the internet and I rather not have to read it again if that is all you have.
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13.8 for me 1,000 miles on it
Boston617
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I only have about 1200 miles on my 2014 trail so my results may not mean too much yet. The first tank showed 19.3, but I don't know for sure how full it was at the start since it was filled by the dealer. Since then I've gotten 20.3 and 20.8. These are calculated from the gas pump and odo readings, not form the dashboard readout which is optimistic by about 1 to 1.5 mpg.
Most of the driving has been on highways between 60 and 70 with about 10% to 15% in town at 25 to 35. The highway driving has had a significant amount of up and down hill since this is a mountainous area.
I have to agree with the earlier posters who said that your driving style has a huge effect on mileage.
NWWayne
Most of the driving has been on highways between 60 and 70 with about 10% to 15% in town at 25 to 35. The highway driving has had a significant amount of up and down hill since this is a mountainous area.
I have to agree with the earlier posters who said that your driving style has a huge effect on mileage.
NWWayne
rick.deckard
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17.5 mpg. Only 1000 miles on it. Mostly city driving.
1engineer
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Please...
NOTE TO MODS: Please don't remove this thread just because it is beating the proverbial "MPG dead horse." I spent some time on the below information that could actually maybe help someone more than just telling them "I got 22 mpg last night coming from work!" Thanks [MENTION=48772]Jesse1983[/MENTION]!
I don't know you but I do know telling someone octane gives you better mpg's is a crock. There is good and bad information on the internet. You have to be smart enough to understand it to begin with so you know what is right and wrong. With that said I spent some time last night putting a post together that is factual and should arm you with enough information to shut your buddies up when this topic comes up around the water cooler. Ready? Go!
Background:
Octane is a flammable hydrocarbon liquid but more importantly, octane is a measure of a fuel’s tendency to knock or ping when it is mixed with
air and burned in the cylinder of an engine. This octane rating of the fuel is NOT based on the amount of chemical
octane in the gasoline.
Now that we have that out of the way, here are a few more facts to bust your perpetuated myth:
High octane gasoline burns slower than low octane gasoline. The slow burn prevents engine knock when
cylinder pressures are high.
If your engine runs well and does not knock or ping on low octane gasoline, there is NO (none, zip, nada, nein, zero) advantage in switching to higher octane gasoline.
Look, the reason that 91 octane gas costs more than 87 octane gas is additional steps are required in the refining process, not that it is a “better” grade of fuel. They just yield a different blend of hydrocarbons that
burns more slowly to reduce engine knock. The additional steps also increase the price.
And if the above is not enough to convince you how about this:
Your 4Runner’s ECU will automatically adjust the fuel/air mixture for the most efficient combustion. It has several analytical feedback loops from sensors to achieve this function. In other words, if you put good hot burning gas in you will use less than putting a cool burn gas in there. So if you want to achieve the max mileage from a tank of gas then use ethanol free gasoline. The octane ratings at the pump are just for pinging and knocking, nothing else. Now, if you want to advance timing and change ECU settings to achieve a bit higher HP, then you need to run higher octane to eliminate the knock that invariably comes with that.
Now, if you still think I am full of it, here is the nail in the coffin of that myth you are spreading. Below is a chart that shows the potential energy from different fuels if you could burn them with 100% efficiency. Just pay attention to the BTU/Gal column and please note there is no different octane fuels on the chart because it does not make one bit of difference! The "GGE" is an equivalent comparing it to other fuels but the last four columns are true potential energy data.
Last note: For all you that don't understand winter and summer blends of gasoline you can see on the chart that winter gasoline is less efficient than summer gasoline, hence the decreased mpg you see in the winter.
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Land_Shark
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I can't help but picture 1engineer as an old-school professor at some blue collar college/university. You know, elbow pads on the jacket, probably smoking a pipe, or at least rolling his own cigarettes and not afraid to get dirty. Reminds me (in a good way) of a few of my salty ol' Chiefs who had more days at sea on the books than I had days in service all together.
Thanks for the info 1engineer, and for taking the time to put it in laments terms for guys like me. I hadn't fully understood different octane ratings prior to this. Okay, I'm done kissin :moon:
For the record, I'm averaging between 19.1 and 20.5 depending on city/highway driving.
Close to sea level, mostly flat terrain and I drive like an old man on Sunday.
This will change once I put on the lift / tires this weekend!
Thanks for the info 1engineer, and for taking the time to put it in laments terms for guys like me. I hadn't fully understood different octane ratings prior to this. Okay, I'm done kissin :moon:
For the record, I'm averaging between 19.1 and 20.5 depending on city/highway driving.
Close to sea level, mostly flat terrain and I drive like an old man on Sunday.
This will change once I put on the lift / tires this weekend!
philsey
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Nice work Greg. Link saved for next month when the topic resurfaces.
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Just got a new 2014 SR5 on saturday. Last car was a 2008 BMW coupe. Looks like I may have to get used to driving this thing in order to maximize MPG. it has 165 miles on it, all but 40 are mine and my computer says 14.9mpg avg. Could be that everyone who test drove it really stepped on it. The whole time i've been driving, I have attempted to mostly keep it within the "eco" range on the display and it has gone from 14.0 mpg avg to 14.9. I am hoping I will at least break about even on gas costs since I used to have to put 93 in the BMW every fill up.
2014 Warthog
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It takes a LONG time to creep up to it's peak at first. I think mileage actually increases as the engine breaks in over the first 3-4 tanks of gas. It took 4 tanks I think for mine to finally reach 8.4 mpg and stick there when the car was new. Takes about one full tank to reach 8.2 if I clear it now with my tires and lift.
On mine, the 8.2 average on the gauge is equal to about 8.7 average calculated from tank fills. Actual tank fills are 8.5 to 9.0 usually.
Now that is great information. My post was not to tell someone that higher octane gives better gas mileage, even though it may have came off that way. It was my personal MPG experience by recording my trip on every fuel up that I just decided to share that information.
I have no reason to assume that the higher refined fuel that cost more will yield a higher MPG on my 4runner than the less refined fuel if I could get away for paying less at the pump. I went out and recorded the mileage i got after every fuel up and those were my numbers. I'm not trying to advocate to use higher octane fuel. I say use whatever works best for your climate, location and driving habits, Nothing more, nothing less.
