2014 TE transmission replacement

[Whiplash Willy]

So you got a total of 1 more REAL issue with your jetta than the 4runner as I can see.

Just because something "still works though" doesn't mean it isn't an issue. There is a TSB for driveshaft clunking, which if it wasn't and issue, there would be no TSB for it...even though the driveshaft still works though.

The seats have no dirt in the rails, there were defective from the factory

The AIP, while still works, is showing signs of possible failure down the road.

There is a TSB out for Rough low speed shifting, so I would consider that an issue as well, even though it is an issue across several platforms.

The gearshift clicking several sec after I put it into Park does this while I am holding the brake on a flat surface, so I don't think its the Pin...No other Auto 4runner, or any other automatic vehicle I have driven does what I am experiencing.

And my concern with the breaks, is what has caused the squeak with so few miles on them.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

Whiplash Willy:

Yes - I believe you may be right. Comparing todays abundance of technoglitz to yesterdays clean-and simple may not be realistic.

Doesn't mean I like it or will ever accept it.

Glad I got to see things back in the day when good was good.

My wife loves her XM radio, navigation, in-car-phone and on and on and on........................................

 

[Sareth]

Even though today a large percentage of vehicles are made by robots, there is still a decent amount of human involvement for some parts of the assembly.

The typical mentality of a Japanese worker is to do the best you can at whatever you do. The typical mentality of say an American worker is "I am too good to be doing this kind of work for this kind of pay".

Someone assembling a vehicle, or QAing a vehicle with a Japanese mentality, will likely do a better job then someone with a resentful mentality.

However, I don't think we can still reference the quality and durability of older Japanese vehicles, brag about how your 20+ year old toyota went 300-400k miles, and expect a new Toyota to do the same. They have to cut too many corners these days. I think the "Toyota Quality" of today is just a perceived quality, built on the history of the actual quality Toyota used to provide.

Sadly, my 2013 4runner with 15k miles has more issues with it then my 2012 VW Golf TDI with 12k miles.

2012 Golf TDI Issues:
-Bad Selector Shaft in Manual Transmission
-Small leak in turbo oil return line

2013 4Runner Issues:
-Rear diff leak between the 3rd member and housing
-Both Automatic seats grind and click when sliding back and fourth
-Air Injection Pump now makes a popping noise when turning off
-Rough slow speed 1-2 shifting
-Gear Shift doesn't always fully shift into park (it clicks into place several seconds later)
-Breaks squeak when coming to a stop (And yes they have been properly bedded in)

Having been a VW owner for the last 4 cars...those things are built like tanks these days. I have had a few small issues, but the internet in its infinite wisdom likes to trash VDub. Maybe the 90s was bad. Anything I had 2000 and up has been rock solid from the day I drove it till the day I sold it. Besides minor cosmetics. I do not own a 4runner yet..lurker...currently BMW (best service I have EVER experience...amazing doesn't cover it) but looking at Toyota next.

 

[Jeremy556]

Having been a VW owner for the last 4 cars...those things are built like tanks these days. I have had a few small issues, but the internet in its infinite wisdom likes to trash VDub. Maybe the 90s was bad. Anything I had 2000 and up has been rock solid from the day I drove it till the day I sold it. Besides minor cosmetics. I do not own a 4runner yet..lurker...currently BMW (best service I have EVER experience...amazing doesn't cover it) but looking at Toyota next.

I have owned lots of VWs, from the 80s to current., they are all shit.

 

[Sareth]

I have owned lots of VWs, from the 80s to current., they are all shit.

Another internet opinion. Rock solid for me. I don't plan on another because I hate the dealer/service guys. But I can't complain about issues. Guess you had bad luck. Sorry to hear.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

All you have to do is hop on over to TrueDelta and look the reliability ratings for all of the other vehicles in this segment. Read through the problems that people have with the 4Runner vs. those with other vehicles. Even though my 4Runner has been "blessed" with a bunch of little issues that drive me crazy, they are basically nothing compared to problems on other vehicles. A transmission failure is a major issue, but they are extremely rare on the 4Runner and not something I would worry about were I looking to purchase.

As far as VW goes, my family's 07 GLI has been a great (and fun) car. The only major issue it has had in 160k miles is the little screen in the guage cluster has gone haywire (lol looks like the Matrix took it over). Normally this would not be a huge issue but it seems to be tied into the cruise control in some way, leaving cruise totally useless. Not a big deal but the last estimate to fix is was around $1200 which hurts a bit. I was actually really wanting to get a Golf TDI a while back, but the HPFP stuff scared me away. If there is one thing I've learned from durability testing vehicles, it's that no matter how much $$$ you spend on a vehicle, it will have issues. They are extremely complex machines. Basically, no matter what the make or model, something is going to go wrong.

 

[Ed Rooney]

Some factories just do a better job. On my 07 BMW 530i, the VIN indicated that it was built in a certain factory in Germany. That factory was known to produce better cars, and it showed in mine. The South Carolina-made X3's and X5's were not nearly as reliable.

I bet if someone looked really closely, they would find the Japanese made 4runners were overall more reliable than the American made Seq's and Tundras.

 

[SigSense]

... more reliable than the American made Seq's and Tundras.

You just don't see this kind of stuff going on at Japanese auto plants:

Chrysler Autoworkers Caught Drinking Beer, Smoking Pot On Break | RealClearPolitics

VIDEO: Unionized auto workers smoking pot and drinking beer on lunch break ... at union hall parking lot >> Nevada Policy Research Institute

 

[Ghost.]

That's because this is Murica' pew pew pew ect

 

[jrandom]

I have owned lots of VWs, from the 80s to current., they are all shit.

Not entirely true IMO, I think it is the plastic materials they use are shit everything plastic, from wire connectors, to door handles, and virtually every other plastic part seem to fail way prematurely, causing a larger issue later. But damn they are fun to drive

 

[4fun-ar]

It's interesting for me, cause I got my 2014 TE EXACTLY a month ago and it only gas 1100 miles on it. No problems yet!
I'm really inclined to see what the problem was.

 

[alphabeast]

Having been a VW owner for the last 4 cars...those things are built like tanks these days. I have had a few small issues, but the internet in its infinite wisdom likes to trash VDub. Maybe the 90s was bad. Anything I had 2000 and up has been rock solid from the day I drove it till the day I sold it. Besides minor cosmetics. I do not own a 4runner yet..lurker...currently BMW (best service I have EVER experience...amazing doesn't cover it) but looking at Toyota next.

Also a prior VW owner. Actually traded in my 2004 Jetta TDI w/ 242,000 on my 2014 TE... I do miss getting 45mpg though..

 

[p nut]

Whiplash Willy:

Yes - I believe you may be right. Comparing todays abundance of technoglitz to yesterdays clean-and simple may not be realistic.

Doesn't mean I like it or will ever accept it.

Glad I got to see things back in the day when good was good.

My wife loves her XM radio, navigation, in-car-phone and on and on and on........................................

There are benefits to the technoglitz. Modern cars are leaps and bounds ahead in safety, power, MPG, etc. I would much rather be in a modern car in a crash:



Also, realize that despite your sentiments of "yesterday's simple and clean," fair share of problems were noted with all manufacturers, including Toyota and Honda back in the day. No car manufacturer has been without problems since day 1. It's just that Toyota has had less percentage of issues than other companies.

That said, I would LOVE to have had a chance to buy an 83 pickup. I absolutely love that body style.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

There are benefits to the technoglitz. Modern cars are leaps and bounds ahead in safety, power, MPG, etc. I would much rather be in a modern car in a crash:




Point taken. 14 air bags would give you more of a fighting chance. My air bag count may be off, but you get the point. That said, I'd give anything to have a brand spanking new 1983 Toyota 22-RE like I once owned. Drove it for about 20 yrs - 415,000 miles and little or nothing went wrong.

The '83 you mentioned may have been a different mfg. No matter. They were all nice.

 

[Goflight2]

Ok, I spoke to the service writer at Autonation Toyota of Buena Park today. He said that they had an engineer from Toyota come look at the vehicle, and that the transmission was being replaced today with a new one. (Not re-manufactured). He said they wanted to keep the car for an extra day to drive it.
All he would say about why it failed was that parts do fail from time to time, and offered no further explanation.
I will say that the dealer has been great so far. We are in a loaner (albeit a 2014 Corolla!) and looks like it will take about a week total from initial drop off.

 

[DannyLlama]

Why do people still think that "made in Japan" confers some mechanical superiority over cars made elsewhere?

It doesn't, and hasn't for decades.

I would have to agree with Rooney..
I think where the car is manufactured/assembled makes a huge difference.

Not only in cars, most anything. But, as I always say, to each is own.

Some factories just do a better job. On my 07 BMW 530i, the VIN indicated that it was built in a certain factory in Germany. That factory was known to produce better cars, and it showed in mine. The South Carolina-made X3's and X5's were not nearly as reliable.

I bet if someone looked really closely, they would find the Japanese made 4runners were overall more reliable than the American made Seq's and Tundras.

 

[JeremyB]

I would have to agree with Rooney..
I think where the car is manufactured/assembled makes a huge difference.

I agree that manuf/assembly location can make a difference, but from what I've seen/heard, I don't think Japan built Toyotas are much [if any] better than US built ones. A common thread - Once somebody travels over there for work, the halo of JP superiority is removed. (Although the Japanese may act like their sh*t don't stink!) For engines, the tolerances are the same in both countries. QC requirements are similar/same.

/tangent anecdote
I have some friends that used to co-op for Denso. The US plant would have a systematic problem with XYZ part and call their Japanese counterparts that manuf'd the same exact part to try and troubleshoot the issue. The JP engineers would deny they had a problem and not offer support. Later, they'd generally find out the JP plant was having the same issue, but didn't want to admit it.

 

[SheppyMach]

Our neighbor has a 2014 Chevy envoy and the dealer towed it outta here on friday. 5,XXX miles. She said it wouldn't go into any gear. I guess i'll have to go see when it comes back.

 

[Ryan1975]

Bought my wife a 2014 Trail Edition three months ago. Great truck up until two days ago. Tranny seemed to be slipping, and the RPM's would shoot up with no power to the wheels. Brought it in to the dealer yesterday, and they called today saying that they were going to replace the transmission.
Now she is concerned that her new car needs such a major repair so quickly. (Car has 2100 miles on it)
Anything I need to check for when I pick it up Saturday? Has anyone heard of something like this happening so soon on a 4R? Should I be concerned or do you think it is a simple replacement?
Sorry for the noob questions, but this is the first time something like this has happened to us on a new car. Not happy right now!!

Once you get past this little bump in the road, your truck will be flawless for the rest of its life.

Trust me, my crystal ball tells me it is so.

 

[Goflight2]

Once you get past this little bump in the road, your truck will be flawless for the rest of its life.

Trust me, my crystal ball tells me it is so.

Best answer so far!