Obviously you didn't read my earlier posts when I described the reasons justified when choosing between a Wrangler and a 4Runner, where those reasons were for the creature comforts of the 4Runner where I stated that was a no brainer choice that hands down the 4Runner was better in those regards and comparing a Wrangler to a 4Runner with a high personal preference for those items does not make any sense since that is not what the Wrangler is about. It's like comparing a Corolla to a BMW. I wasn't trying to convince anyone to buy a Wrangler, obviously most have already made their choice.
I expected the chest thumpers to eventually come out and start the rantings and take the conversation to being uncivilized. Here they are, so I'll be on my way now.
I'll be wheeling with a friend next week who owns a 4Runner. We'll be having fun doing the off road stuff, and not being judgmental of each others preference in vehicle choice. It's nice knowing not all 4Runner owner's are ass clowns like Phoenix but ass clowns typically can't be avoided in forums regardless of the vehicle they choose to drive.
Enjoy your 4Runner Phoenix. Be sure to stop by a Wrangler forum and I'm sure we'll make you feel just as welcome.
"...so I'd rather have the vehicle that doesn't ride like a stagecoach"
now THAT is a great line...:laugh:
I believe in using a vehicle for its intended purpose but if I didn't I might not have the jeep since its not the best daily driver.
My daughter has a 2013 wrangler and every time she picks me up I search for the right word to describe the awful ride. Stagecoach nails it. What a piece of shit on pavement. By the way her husband just traded his GC diesel for a GC srt. That is pretty bad ass. Its even fire engine red.
No hurt feelings here, I have already said it I think we have the best of both worlds now that we have the 4Runner and the Jeep.
Kid do you take your 4R out to Mineral and 5 mile? I would like to take a look at a trail rig to see which mods need to be on our list.
Depends on the daily drive. I had a TJ as a daily for several years, and there were attributes about it that I genuinely liked as a DD. For one, it was small. It could be easily maneuvered in traffic, and parking was a breeze, be it in a lot or of the parallel type. I found even when my commute was 20 miles, the TJ was a competent, fun DD. Also, I kinda liked listening to the rain on the soft top (soothing, reminds one of camping in a tent during a rain storm). Ice was a bit hairy with the short wheelbase, but I managed. Snow was fun, the deeper the better, if I could find unplowed county roads. As for shorter commutes, do you really need a plush, Cadillac style ride for a 5 mile trip?
I've not driven a JK, nor do I really care to since I do not like how they look. I'm sure it lands somewhere between what the TJ was and the 4R. But I like both the TJ and the 4R equally - my favorite 2 vehicles that I've ever owned. To me they're completely different, yet in some ways very similar...