2016 4Runner Oil Change

Tex-Tac

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Yes I know that this paraticular subject has already been discussed here on the forum :deadhorse: but still I just want to give my $0.02 on it.

Yesterday I did the oil change on my wife's 2016 4Runner. She's had it since Dec. 30, 2015 and well now it was showing the MAINTENANCE REQUIRED on the small screen and I knew that it was time for its first oil change.

After reviewing at what exactly is involved and such I quickly realized and it is appearent as to why Toyota decided to design the process to do so on this.

First reason, it is obvious why there are two skid plates (lets not forget the smaller plate cover for the oil drain plug too!) that need to be removed from under the engine bay. Yes Toyota may claim that it is for "arrow dynamic" purposes's, better mileage and performance, less drag, etc., etc., etc. yea right but the real reason is because of the hard plastic oil filter housing that it has. Also to add on to this, the process of having to drain the oil filter itself.
Heck think of it, hauling ass down the highway (or just a plain road even) going anywhere from 50-75 MPH, something kicks up from underneath and hits that plastic oil filter housing just perfect and well you'll quickly end up with a cracked housing and oil leakage. This would force the consumer to have to purchase another plastic oil filter housing. My wife said to just take it to the dealership and let them deal with it since we have a year of free oil changes but I for one don't trust the dealership to peform a task such as changing the oil. I've heard of too many bad horrible stories, like not actually changing the oil, not putting in the correct oil type (weight) not actually replacing the oil filter, not putting on the oil drain plug back on securely, leaking oil, etc., etc.


Second reason, in my opinion Toyota deliberately (as well as other manufacturer's) tends to purposely design specific's on vehicles, such in this case the 4Runner's (and Tacoma's) oil change "to make the process as tedious" as possible. To discourage the customer from performing the task and just take it to the dealership to have it done.

Well those are just my opinions on this matter but still this does not discourage me from peforming this task. I still did it, took a bit of time though no problem.

Two things that I did do though, one is I replaced the plastic oil filter housing with one that is metal ( Toyota Lexus Scion Special Oil Filter Wrench Large Tool Filter Cap 15620 31060 | eBay)
and the other, I also replaced the oil drain plug with a magnetic one (TOYOTA/LEXUS NISSAN/ INFINITI).

Yes some just may consider that over kill or what not but that doesn't matter to me.

Anyway that's my $0.02 on all this.
 
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Im gonna have to disagree with several statements you made. Tacomas are the easiest oil change in the world. The oil filter is right on top of the engine in a "cup" designed to catch any oil that drips. That "cup" even has a nipple on the bottom to connect a piece of hose to drain directly into your oil catch.

The "skid plates" are designed to protect ALL of the under carriage, not just the filter housing. Most everyone on here take there trucks offroad. Although there are a few more steps involved compared to the traditional oil change, the 4runners setup is pretty ideal. Cartridges are significantly cheaper to produce than standard filters. Secondly the drain plug on the bottom of the filter housing is extremely convenient.

If you want a vehicle thats a real joy to change the oil in, try most euro cars. My wifes Touareg takes me about an hour to do. Theres no room or easy access to the filter housing... and it CANNOT be done with out making a huge mess.
 
Yes I know that this paraticular subject has already been discussed here on the forum :deadhorse: but still I just want to give my $0.02 on it.

Yesterday I did the oil change on my wife's 2016 4Runner. She's had it since Dec. 30, 2015 and well now it was showing the MAINTENANCE REQUIRED on the small screen and I knew that it was time for its first oil change.

After reviewing at what exactly is involved and such I quickly realized and it is appearent as to why Toyota decided to design the process to do so on this.

First reason, it is obvious why there are two skid plates (lets not forget the smaller plate cover for the oil drain plug too!) that need to be removed from under the engine bay. Yes Toyota may claim that it is for "arrow dynamic" purposes's, better mileage and performance, less drag, etc., etc., etc. yea right but the real reason is because of the hard plastic oil filter housing that it has. Also to add on to this, the process of having to drain the oil filter itself.
Heck think of it, hauling ass down the highway (or just a plain road even) going anywhere from 50-75 MPH, something kicks up from underneath and hits that plastic oil filter housing just perfect and well you'll quickly end up with a cracked housing and oil leakage. This would force the consumer to have to purchase another plastic oil filter housing. My wife said to just take it to the dealership and let them deal with it since we have a year of free oil changes but I for one don't trust the dealership to peform a task such as changing the oil. I've heard of too many bad horrible stories, like not actually changing the oil, not putting in the correct oil type (weight) not actually replacing the oil filter, not putting on the oil drain plug back on securely, leaking oil, etc., etc.


Second reason, in my opinion Toyota deliberately (as well as other manufacturer's) tends to purposely design specific's on vehicles, such in this case the 4Runner's (and Tacoma's) oil change "to make the process as tedious" as possible. To discourage the customer from performing the task and just take it to the dealership to have it done.

Well those are just my opinions on this matter but still this does not discourage me from peforming this task. I still did it, took a bit of time though no problem.

Two things that I did do though, one is I replaced the plastic oil filter housing with one that is metal ( Toyota Lexus Scion Special Oil Filter Wrench Large Tool Filter Cap 15620 31060 | eBay)
and the other, I also replaced the oil drain plug with a magnetic one (TOYOTA/LEXUS NISSAN/ INFINITI).

Yes some just may consider that over kill or what not but that doesn't matter to me.

Anyway that's my $0.02 on all this.

You have never designed anything have you...
 
I just got finished changing my oil this morning. Yes, there are a couple of extra steps involved. Yes, removing and reinstalling the TRD skid plate is a bit of a pain but now that I've figured out how to prop it with one hand and get the first bolt threaded, no problem. As long as you have a 14mm socket for the TRD skid, 12mm for the drain plug access panel, and the right size cup filter wrench, it goes pretty quick. It takes me about 45 minutes start to finish. I'm glad I didn't read the forum posts prior to doing it myself. Everyone makes it seem way too hard. I do almost all of my auto maintenance and there are many things much more difficult than the 4R oil change.

As for the design aspect, it probably could be done better, but it isn't as bad as a lot of cars. My favorite oil change was on my Wrangler Rubicon with the Pentastar V6. Canister filter right on top of the engine, enough ground clearance to get under it easily, and no skid plate in the way of the drain bolt.:thumb:
 
You can disagree all you want but I think you didn't fully comprehend what exactly was stated on my post.

You seem to think that I am addressing all Toyota years for Tacomas and 4Runners and I am not.

I specifically stated the year 2016 4Runner (as well as Tacomas from that year too).

I own a 2008 & 2012 Tacoma and yes changing the oil and oil filter is a snap, no details to contend with. Also used to own a 2003 4Runner and changing the oil for that was a snap as well. But after reading others experiences with changing the oil on their new 2016 Tacomas as well as 2016 4Runners I now know specifically what they meant.

As for it being a hard job to change the oil I never said such a thing. I simply stated that it had become more of a tediuos task to do compared to other previous Toyota years and that the manufacture purposely makes it more of a job so that the consumer will more than likely take the vehicle back to the dealership to have them do it instead.

You need to "carefully read and comprehend" things before you start posting comments about them.


Im gonna have to disagree with several statements you made. Tacomas are the easiest oil change in the world. The oil filter is right on top of the engine in a "cup" designed to catch any oil that drips. That "cup" even has a nipple on the bottom to connect a piece of hose to drain directly into your oil catch.
 
[MENTION=45064]Tex-Tac[/MENTION],

I have a 3 questions.....

The filter housing (filter cap) 15620-31060 fit without issue?

Did you have to change the center tube or was it the same size/length as the one in the plastic housing?


What size magnetic drain plug is the correct size? M12X1.25X12 ?


Thanks in advance.
 
Since you've mentiond it, well yes I have designed a few things.
I am a Metrologist by profession and I have submitted designs for improving certain process's and many have been approved and implemented. I've even been paid for this as well. So yes I do have knowledge and a clear understanding on "improving" and making things "easier" and more "economical" to save $$$ but never to deliberately make things harder, complicated or tedious just to discourage an individual from performing a task.

But hey to each their own.

As for Toyota changing the process of a simple oil & filter change, well like I said they added a few more steps and really all Toyota did was to just make the process of changing the oil & filter from simplicity to tedious on their newer models compared to the older versions.

Y'all have a good day! :cheers:


You have never designed anything have you...
 
First question: Yes it fit perfect, no problems.

Second question: Didn't have to change or modify nothing, the center tube was the exact same size.

Third question: M12x1.25x12 is the size (I contacted them and specifically asked this before ordering).




[MENTION=45064]Tex-Tac[/MENTION],

I have a 3 questions.....

The filter housing (filter cap) 15620-31060 fit without issue?


Did you have to change the center tube or was it the same size/length as the one in the plastic housing?


What size magnetic drain plug is the correct size? M12X1.25X12 ?



Thanks in advance.
 
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Does the aluminum oil filter housing have the drain feature on the top like the plastic one?

Yep, it has the same push valve for emptying the canister oil. I changed mine to a metal cup as well. The only thing different is the center perforated stem, which you have to switch out because they are different lengths. It's easy. No issues with mine after 2,000 miles. [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION].

The dealer stocks the plastic cup (which means they replace them often) but don't stock the metal one. Figured it's worth the $30 to have a metal one. Not sure why Toyota thought it would be a good idea to go to a plastic cup instead of metal.
 
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Second question: Didn't have to change or modify nothing, the center tube was the exact same size.

This is incorrect. The center tubes are the same diameter, but not the same length. The original plastic cup is designed for the A5 filter, the metal cup was designed for the A1 filter (3.5 L V6 engine 2GR) The V8 Tundras use the A4 filter (taller than the A5).

I know because I took mine out and saw the difference.
 
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THIS

As stated, the metal housing was built for the 3.5 V6 used in Camrys, Avalons, Siennas, Rav4s; Highlanders.

The center stem in those is shorter than the one in the plastic housing.
 
Yep, it has the same push valve for emptying the canister oil. I changed mine to a metal cup as well. The only thing different is the center perforated stem, which you have to switch out because they are different lengths. It's easy. No issues with mine after 2,000 miles. [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION].

The dealer stocks the plastic cup (which means they replace them often) but don't stock the metal one. Figured it's worth the $30 to have a metal one. Not sure why Toyota thought it would be a good idea to go to a plastic cup instead of metal.

This is incorrect. The center tubes are the same diameter, but not the same length. The original plastic cup is designed for the A5 filter, the metal cup was designed for the A1 filter (3.5 L V6 engine 2GR) The V8 Tundras use the A4 filter (taller than the A5).

I know because I took mine out and saw the difference.

^^^
THIS

As stated, the metal housing was built for the 3.5 V6 used in Camrys, Avalons, Siennas, Rav4s; Highlanders.

The center stem in those is shorter than the one in the plastic housing.

WOW, Thanks [MENTION=48234]stir_fry_boy[/MENTION] & [MENTION=107124]Lester Lugnut[/MENTION] for this info!!!

So, if [MENTION=45064]Tex-Tac[/MENTION] didn't replace the center tube on the filter to the original size that came in his plastic housing, is he running the risk of engine damage?

Asking because when I take mine in with the metal housing in hand, I want a seamless transition when I hand it over to the tech!
 
As mentioned before, I did not have to change out the center perforated tube from the original plastic one to the newer metal one. I installed the newer metal oil filter housing, with an cartridge filter from Toyota, without any problems but hey if you (or anyone else for that matter) feels differently about it and if you have any doubt and if it makes you feel any better it's your choice to switch them out?

I've checked and there have not been any problems whatsoever, no leakage, no problems re-Installing, etc., engine runs fine.

Do what makes you feel more at ease.
 

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