2016 limited

So went to Toyota today with every intention of buying a 4Runner but after the drive was disappointed.

So let's start with I normally drive a Eco diesel 1500. Not fast and my wife has a v8 4th gen runner.

I will say the new runner is very nice ride and steering is very smooth but I tried to merge and the thing is gutless. Down shifted and rpms went sky high with a big revving noise but really no movement.

Is that normal. Compared to the v8 was terrible even though the hp is almost the same.

Drove the lc too and was very impressed.

Thoughts on power?
 
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So went to Toyota today with every intention of buying a 4Runner but after the drive was disappointed.

So let's start with I normally drive a Eco diesel 1500. Not fast and my wife has a v8 4th gen runner.

I will say the new runner is very nice ride and steering is very smooth but I tried to merge and the thing is gutless. Down shifted and rpms went sky high with a big revving noise but really no movement.

Is that normal. Compared to the v8 was terrible even though the hp is almost the same.

Drove the lc too and was very impressed.

Thoughts on power?

Sounds like you've answered your own question. It's not fast enough *for you.* For everyone else here who has a 5th gen, it's probably fast enough. Maybe not as fast as we would like. Enjoy the Land Cruiser...
 
It needs to break in For a few thousand miles , also if it's the limited it has 74 lbs wheels and tires
 
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It needs to break in For a few thousand miles , also if it's the limited it has 74 lbs wheels and tires

it has nothing to do with break in and more to do with the driver getting used to the way it drives and knowing what it can and cant do.
 
I just added 285/70-17 Duratracs, and Shrockworks front and rear bumpers, and I still don't think of my truck as "slow". I drive plenty of truly fast cars almost daily, but I don't have the same expectations from a truck. It's not something I ever expected to haul ass in. If I'd wanted something like that, I probably would have gone with a Raptor or equivalent.
 
it seems to rev way faster than when it was new a -guess I'm just use to it . I used to drive turbo imports ms3 and hemi Rams it never seemed that slow to me other than when it was new
 
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Wow. I can't help but laugh as I too am currently in an ecodiesel Ram, looking to trade on a 16 4Runner limited, and was at the dealership today.

There is obviously a big difference in torque between these two vehicles, but the 4Runner is actually faster 0-60 than the ecodiesel by more than a second. These engines make their power at higher speeds than you may be used to coming from a diesel or v8, but it isn't slower and you will get used to it.
 
Push pedal all the way down....acceleration will happen. People are very used to not using the skinny pedal these days. It's a BOF SUV with a V6, so don't expect anything crazy. The LX570 I almost traded for was very nice and felt way more peppy. Then again its got a huge engine, producing tons of torque.
 
I wouldn't even mind the "slowness" but how easily and quickly it down shifted

The Eco isn't exactly fast and does have a turbo delay. Guess is more the shifting characteristics.
 
I'm not sure if 'break-in' is the right term, but I agree with Rok.

After a couple thousand miles, the vehicle didn't seem to struggle to get up and going nearly as much.



it has nothing to do with break in and more to do with the driver getting used to the way it drives and knowing what it can and cant do.
 
Maybe and this was a demo with over 5000 miles that I drove.
Who knows maybe I will drive again to make sure but at this point pretty sure the lc is a better choice for me.
 
If you are expecting much more than what you noticed on your test drive you will be disappointed no matter how hard you push the gas. These things just do not have much low end torque. They need to rev high to even make it feel like it has power. They are a slug off the line. I came from an 03 V8 and I never quite get used to it. If you live in flat country it will probably be fine. In the mountains it may never live up to your expectations. I have learned to live with it and I am happy with my purchase. If you are looking for more then move on.
 
I wouldn't even mind the "slowness" but how easily and quickly it down shifted

The Eco isn't exactly fast and does have a turbo delay. Guess is more the shifting characteristics.

I agree its a bit ridiculous. After owning for 9 months the terrible acceleration has not grown on me. Its a real black eye on an otherwise very nice rig.

I drove a 2014 Camry rental car, the WORST modern car I have ever driven, with a deafening sound and with such a punishing ride you will beg for mercy after only a few minutes in it.(ever driven a Suzuki Samari?) However this cheapo clunker, other then a short lag with the pedal really scooted. Embarrassing how much more power that little car seems to have.
 
If you are expecting much more than what you noticed on your test drive you will be disappointed no matter how hard you push the gas. These things just do not have much low end torque. They need to rev high to even make it feel like it has power. They are a slug off the line. I came from an 03 V8 and I never quite get used to it. If you live in flat country it will probably be fine. In the mountains it may never live up to your expectations. I have learned to live with it and I am happy with my purchase. If you are looking for more then move on.
In Fort Collins (5000-5500) it's noticeable.

In Estes Park (7500 ish) I can definitely tell.

In CO Springs (up to 8500) it's getting wheezy.

Once you crack 10000 there are few NA vehicles that will tolerate that--and you will need forced induction of some kind.

That's one thing that I like about turbos--they love the mountains, I guess that's part of the reason the Japanese have so many JDM.

With that said, I've had no issues blowing away traffic when I merge on I-25's notoriously short onramps, or passing someone on a single lane road. The only frustrating thing is that the accelerator pedal is more less binary--if you want thrust, bury it.

I've been *****ing that I want more power or a blower, but that ain't happening and the 4Runner's off road virtues far outweigh its adequate power output. The Limited is particularly nice for shitty on road conditions like blizzards, too since it's AWD.

I am NOT thrilled that Toyota is cutting off the balls of the low end, low RPM torque in all of its engines.

Maybe I have a different baseline than the OP, but I'd compare it to vehicles like it (not that there are many left) like the JKU and the Xterra, not some family sedan pickup truck. And, historically, I've driven Land Cruisers and it's a rocketship compared to that.

I have owned an MT FJC, and I can tell a regear does wonders for pickup IF you're willing to sacrifice your top speed.
 

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