2019 TRD Pro's

I really just don't understand why it matters that the vehicle is 10 years old. The powertrain has proven reliability. The fuel economy is reasonable for the vehicle size and weight. It maybe could have tighter handling and a smoother ride, but that is expected with BoF construction What does being "new" bring to the table that is better than proven reliabilty? What am I missing here??

You're not. They (people who are uber-bothered) just want Toyota to do them favors by giving them everything auto market has to offer all for under $50K. Last time I checked, no one HAS to buy a 4Runner. As much, Toyota doesn't HAVE to change anything. This forum allows for people to vent. And I agree with some of 4Runner "shortcomings" that are regularly pointed out. I do have to wonder why people still have their 4Runners though haha. Sure seems like a waste of money to own something that you feel falls short of a "current" vehicle.
 
I really just don't understand why it matters that the vehicle is 10 years old. The powertrain has proven reliability. The fuel economy is reasonable for the vehicle size and weight. It maybe could have tighter handling and a smoother ride, but that is expected with BoF construction What does being "new" bring to the table that is better than proven reliabilty? What am I missing here??
It’s not a huge deal for me personally... I just wouldn’t buy another 5th Gen and, had I not bought one in early 2013, I wouldn’t be buying a new one this late in the life cycle. As I mentioned- I love it but I bought it in its 4th year of production, have owned it 5 years, and it will be at least 2 another 2 years before I can get behind the wheel of an new Gen. I don’t expect everything but the mpg could be improved a bit... that applies to all of Toyota’s BOF lineup. A Yukon gets better MPG than the 4Runner in my experience. Maybe an extra gear in the transmission and some newer technology (such as car play). Aside from that, I just want some new styling/looks lol. I am glad Toyota doesn’t tinker too much with mid-Gen refreshes but at the decade mark, I would certainly welcome some new features/styling.
 
. The offroad is the same vehicle as a PRO but it doesn't have the ridiculous price tag or appearance package items

The off road also has the KDSS option which would be very costly to install after the fact. The Pro, I believe, still has the auto headlights which I would hope can be fixed with techstream cause it would suck to dish out that kinda coin only to have the lights come on when you don't want them on.
 
I really just don't understand why it matters that the vehicle is 10 years old. The powertrain has proven reliability. The fuel economy is reasonable for the vehicle size and weight. It maybe could have tighter handling and a smoother ride, but that is expected with BoF construction What does being "new" bring to the table that is better than proven reliabilty? What am I missing here??

I don't get people spending $45k on an SUV then complaining about fuel economy. If you can afford a brand new vehicle you should be able to afford gas? Or buy a used trail edition for $25k which can do the same stuff a 45k one can and spend the extra $20k on gas.
 
This is exactly how I feel...I have a 2011 and I want to replace it, but won't until they bring it up to current standards (Safety, Performance etc.) I know of no truck/suv/car that has gone 9 model years with virtually no changes .
 
I don't get people spending $45k on an SUV then complaining about fuel economy. If you can afford a brand new vehicle you should be able to afford gas? Or buy a used trail edition for $25k which can do the same stuff a 45k one can and spend the extra $20k on gas.

Exactly...you could say the same about property taxes. Differences in property taxes can be HUGE, especially if you own an older vehicle like '07 for example versus '19. Can't afford to pay taxes on it? Don't even think about buying it at all or you're going to struggle.
 
This is exactly how I feel...I have a 2011 and I want to replace it, but won't until they bring it up to current standards (Safety, Performance etc.) I know of no truck/suv/car that has gone 9 model years with virtually no changes .

And yet it's selling better than ever. There's a reason you haven't seen that in other brands. The others have to constantly change and offer "new stuff" to keep them relevant. Toyota, with the 4R has chosen to go the "old" time and tested route. The novelty of new tech wears off much faster than true reliability.
 
Tech is only nice when it's working. I prefer the reliability and low-tech vehicles. Makes DIY jobs a breeze. 4runner is purrrrrfect.
 
Using that logic they would still be using the 22-RE and a 4 speed auto. It is selling well(As most SUV's) and see no reason to change it I guess.
 
Any idea when the 2019 Pros will starting showing up at the dealers?

At the dealer today trying to get on the list for a Calvary blue TRDP. Asked the guy when 19's are expected and they still don't know. He said they get little advance info on the 4Runners since they are always high demand, short supply.

After thinking about it, I'm going to ask to put a deposit down on a black 19 TRDP. I have a 15 LE and absolutely love the stereo which is supposed to be the same/updated version of the JBL premium going into the 19 TRDPs. I don't want to compromise and get a lesser stereo just for the Calvary blue. Plus, the fox suspension sounds like a decent upgrade.
 
At the dealer today trying to get on the list for a Calvary blue TRDP. Asked the guy when 19's are expected and they still don't know. He said they get little advance info on the 4Runners since they are always high demand, short supply.

After thinking about it, I'm going to ask to put a deposit down on a black 19 TRDP. I have a 15 LE and absolutely love the stereo which is supposed to be the same/updated version of the JBL premium going into the 19 TRDPs. I don't want to compromise and get a lesser stereo just for the Calvary blue. Plus, the fox suspension sounds like a decent upgrade.

The list for a Calvary blue TRDP will be a very short one and still you won't get one - the list for a CAVALRY blue one might be longer but your chances of actually getting one will go up drastically.

cavalry: "combat troops mounted originally on horses but now often riding in motorized armored vehicles"

calvary: "the place near Jerusalem where the crucifixion of Jesus took place"

;)
 
The list for a Calvary blue TRDP will be a very short one and still you won't get one - the list for a CAVALRY blue one might be longer but your chances of actually getting one will go up drastically.

cavalry: "combat troops mounted originally on horses but now often riding in motorized armored vehicles"

calvary: "the place near Jerusalem where the crucifixion of Jesus took place"

;)
Thank you for finding my autocorrect typo and adding to the overall conversation.

Needless to say, I’m on the list for a cavalry blue TRDP at MSRP with a fair market value for my 15 LE trade in. My local dealer tried playing the trade in game to short me on my trade in so he could say he’s not charging me extra for an in-demand vehicle. That prompted me to stick with the folks 45 miles away who are playing it fair. Still don’t know why people would spend 5k above sticker instead of searching out their options.
 
Opinion Needed

Hi folks, I am going to start out by saying what I am going to post has nothing to do with this thread topic but I do not have permission yet to post a new thread and I would really like everyone’s opinion on a 4th gen I am looking at.
So here it goes... I am looking at a 2008 4Runner SR5 4x4 with the V8. It has 77,000 miles and 2 previous owners. Options on it are the standard options for the SR5. Sunroof, running boards, trailer hitch and so on. This is located in central Pennsylvania. Dealer is asking $16500 for it which seems to be a little above clean retail for it but I know that these 4th gens with the V8 are getting sparse (especially with lower miles) and are sought after. So I just wanted to get everyone’s take on the price. The dealer is currently replacing the exhaust manifold on it so it must have gotten the notorious crack in the manifold.

Again sorry for posting on a random topic not related to this but it wouldn’t allow me to start a new thread and I really wanted to get some opinions from other knowledgeable 4Runner lovers.

Thanks a bunch for your help!
 
Hi folks, I am going to start out by saying what I am going to post has nothing to do with this thread topic but I do not have permission yet to post a new thread and I would really like everyone’s opinion on a 4th gen I am looking at.
So here it goes... I am looking at a 2008 4Runner SR5 4x4 with the V8. It has 77,000 miles and 2 previous owners. Options on it are the standard options for the SR5. Sunroof, running boards, trailer hitch and so on. This is located in central Pennsylvania. Dealer is asking $16500 for it which seems to be a little above clean retail for it but I know that these 4th gens with the V8 are getting sparse (especially with lower miles) and are sought after. So I just wanted to get everyone’s take on the price. The dealer is currently replacing the exhaust manifold on it so it must have gotten the notorious crack in the manifold.

Again sorry for posting on a random topic not related to this but it wouldn’t allow me to start a new thread and I really wanted to get some opinions from other knowledgeable 4Runner lovers.

Thanks a bunch for your help!

This may be a better thread to post your questions to. It is stickied in the 4th gen section.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-g...ifications-write-ups-quick-links-faqs-22.html
 
Hi folks, I am going to start out by saying what I am going to post has nothing to do with this thread topic but I do not have permission yet to post a new thread and I would really like everyone’s opinion on a 4th gen I am looking at.
So here it goes... I am looking at a 2008 4Runner SR5 4x4 with the V8. It has 77,000 miles and 2 previous owners. Options on it are the standard options for the SR5. Sunroof, running boards, trailer hitch and so on. This is located in central Pennsylvania. Dealer is asking $16500 for it which seems to be a little above clean retail for it but I know that these 4th gens with the V8 are getting sparse (especially with lower miles) and are sought after. So I just wanted to get everyone’s take on the price. The dealer is currently replacing the exhaust manifold on it so it must have gotten the notorious crack in the manifold.

Again sorry for posting on a random topic not related to this but it wouldn’t allow me to start a new thread and I really wanted to get some opinions from other knowledgeable 4Runner lovers.

Thanks a bunch for your help!

Buy it and keep it for the next 10 years, or more. That is the best 4 made.
 

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