2020 Land Rover Defender?

IMO, it looks too much like an older Honda Element to be attractive. I do like features which should already be in every vehicle made like allowing TWO smart phone connections at the same time instead of one. Winning!

How many people do you think you could fool if you simply swapped the badges between these vehicles using photoshop. I bet every LR enthusiast would pick the honda just because it says "land rover" on it.
 
I met a guy last week who just had his 2019 Defender bought back under lemon law. He was waiting to get a 2020 Defender as its replacement and is driving a rental Subaru until that time arrives.

Closest LR dealer is 5 hour south of us.

Dude is a hard learner.
 
I met a guy last week who just had his 2019 Defender bought back under lemon law. He was waiting to get a 2020 Defender as its replacement and is driving a rental Subaru until that time arrives.

Closest LR dealer is 5 hour south of us.

Dude is a hard learner.

Are you sure? I think the last production year of the old Defender was 2016.
 
Im curious if anyone is considering making the jump? They are really catching my eye, other than the price tag.

The New Defender | Land Rover USA

Hell no. Those come with almost 100 different computer-controlled parts, including critical things like braking and turning the vehicle on and off. Might as well burn your money. In fact, I read that there is now a feature which electronically alerts the service department at your land rover dealership when a part fails, so they automatically order it in for you. That tells you all you need to know about how much confidence land rover has about their own products.

FYI, Land Rover/Jaguar is now owned by Tata and are outsourcing a lot of their manufacturing to 3rd world factories that probably have no concept of quality control as it would pertain to complex electronics like you find in expensive luxury vehicles. This will only cause further problems in their vehicles.
 
Well, two weeks ago, after looking at Defender, i bought a 2019 Land Cruiser. Defender looks nice with some amazing options/features, but that whole unreliability stuff would ruin the fun of ownership.
 
Land rovers are like hot, insecure women. :gossip:


Great looking, will burn a hole in your wallet, and not reliable enough to keep around.
 
The new defender looks great, but once you start adding a few options it gets too pricey for me. Every build ive done on the configurator I get it to about mid 60-70k.
 
to me. Defender should be boxy.

this new defender to me is like a 2020 Wrangler that looks like Nissan murano.
 
Haven't looked into the 2020s much. But did consider an older tall and boxy discovery not that long ago. But didn't pull the trigger. Thoughts of parts availability , ease of working on, etc made me not pull the trigger.
 
Haven't looked into the 2020s much. But did consider an older tall and boxy discovery not that long ago. But didn't pull the trigger. Thoughts of parts availability , ease of working on, etc made me not pull the trigger.

I have a Discovery 1 that I purchase in the summer. Plenty of parts available and it easy to work on.
 

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I saw one of the "big" overlan audacity temp mail origin d IG groups (and by big, I mean legit journalist/should have respectable opinions) suggest the Defender as a LC200 alternative. Here is exactly what they wrote:
 
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