DallasTRDPro
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What safety feature?
2020 model issues/observations
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What safety feature?
Yep. My 2017 was much better.
00Sebby
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Yeah, I just came from a '20 Wrangler Rubicon with the 8.4 UConnect and it was a fantastic display, great resolution. Kind of like watching HDTV when the backup cam was on. Even the display above the steering column was hi-def and had many programmable features.
The Rubicon had:
- Remote start - both with the key and app
- 8.4 UConnect with all kinds of apps and Off-Road Pages
- Alpine sound system
- Real leather seats
- Automatic seat heaters, heated steering wheel, climate control based on outside temp
- Very easy to use infotainment, easy to navigate, beautiful album art, etc.
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RichinRidgewood
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Amen
00Sebby
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Hey, 9000 miles of trouble-free driving before I traded it.:lmao:
david05111
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Grabbing the driver door and it only unlocking the driver door, not any of the others. It allows you to enter without granting access to anyone else who might be a threat. That's a legitimate safety feature, especially for women.
But it does have the drawback of it being a pain in the ass (particularly on the 4runner) of restricting access to passengers you actually want to unlock the door for.
I have a 2014 Mercedes that does the same thing, except on that car all the door handles have sensors in them. So when I walk up to the car and have a passenger with me, I can just touch the driver rear door handle as I walk by and it unlocks all the doors so my passenger can get in on the other side.
On the 4runner, the procedure is either:
a) grab the driver door and open it (unlocks only the driver door) and then press the "unlock" button on the inside to unlock the rest so the passengers can get in
or
b) unlock the car from the keyfob or app.
I long for either another way you can unlock all the doors without sacrificing the "driver only" unlock. I'd really like to be able to double-grab the front driver door. The first grab (normal) would just unlock the driver door, preserving the lockout safety feature; the second grab would then unlock the remaining doors. Alternatively, it would be awesome to just be able to retrofit the sensors into the two rear doors like the mercedes has. Then I could just follow my standard procedure I've been using on that car for years.
The programming options available don't allow for the first change. I'd have to dig around a bit and examine the costs and process involved of doing the second.
I know that's nitpicky, but if you drive the car every day it becomes a bit obtrusive, especially if you often have passengers with you.
If you drove a Toyota from 10 years ago, you wouldn't be saying that. Rather you'd be praising how far they've come. It's all about perspective.
Why'd you abandon your Fiat? I was thinking of buying one until I saw all the "new" (for Toyota) tech that was in the 2020s. Then it was a no brainer to get nice creature comforts without giving up what a 4Runner and Toyota are.
08TxRunner
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Anybody know why Toyota took away the auto climate control function? My '08 base model SR5 had it. My '20 SR5 Premium does not - just manual HVAC controls. Weird.
ForRun
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The Limited, Nightshade and Pro have it.
08TxRunner
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Yeah I know. But why move it to those models when the 4th Gen had it on ALL models.
Curious how that would actually work in real life. Like, a woman is fleeing an attacker right behind her who conveniently tries to go around to the passenger side door instead of the door she is heading to and is foiled because she only unlocks the drivers door?
Teamoatmealpie
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My parents just picked up a 20 and the dealership ran thru the Toyota Safety Sense (Nonsense) real quick, activated all the shit. Next thing they know there getting text alerts about speeding on the drive home from the dealer.
When they looked at all the crap the dealer had activated, it was shocking, Text alerts about driving behavior, sending driving info to car insurance companies, supposedly in case you want to buy new insurance.
I cant think of anything more invasive then Toyota tracking my movements and selling that data to whomever. My 2 cents = no thanks. Now resume with the never ending talk about light bulbs.
When they looked at all the crap the dealer had activated, it was shocking, Text alerts about driving behavior, sending driving info to car insurance companies, supposedly in case you want to buy new insurance.
I cant think of anything more invasive then Toyota tracking my movements and selling that data to whomever. My 2 cents = no thanks. Now resume with the never ending talk about light bulbs.
RichinRidgewood
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david05111
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I think it’s mainly for parking lots where you never know when someone else might be looking to get in the car. Like a woman pulls on the door and a guy on the other side of the car goes to jump it in really fast.
It’s a pretty common safety feature. I can’t explain all the reasons it might come into play.
david05111
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Yeah now that you mention this, how do you adjust all that? I was surprised to see that the app was tracking everywhere I went, etc. And that was just the app.
I don’t really want the car collecting all this data on me either, but I’m not sure where all those settings are and how to be more selective on what I turn on and don’t.
00Sebby
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Up until December, I still had my '10 Trail. Other than the built in navigation, CarPlay, and the adaptive cruise control, not much has changed. The Jeep tech is way advanced regardless of the questionable reliability. It even had blind spot monitoring that for some reason didn't find it's way onto the 2020 4Runner. Again, I still like the 4Runner better but Toyota could've done better with the tech.
You have to call Toyota and opt out of all the connected services. You could also pull the DCM fuse that's under the dash and that kills power to the data connection. Nasty little thing though, if you pull the fuse it also kills power to the microphone used for hands free calling and Siri with CarPlay. I'm beyond pissed about that.
david05111
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Any idea which services exactly can be opted out of? I like the ability to remote start it from the app, for instance. If it kills the connection to the car, losing some stuff could suck.
I just don't want it logging my every route and speed and stuff. I wouldn't even really have an enormous objection to it if the data got purged at midnight every day. But if they're saving everything and throwing it into some sort of long-term database, I definitely have an issue with that.
My 20 had a sticker up by the map lights saying it was tracking info and gave instructions how to turn it off.
