2020 TRD Pro Updates - Army Green & Push Button Start

This makes me sad about the future of TRD. I'm just going to leave this here:
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TRD = Toyota Racing Development and not exclusively for Off Roading.
There is a TRD Camry and Avalon!

TRD just means the Toyota model got some kind of TRD treatment / accessories and badges. Nothing wrong with taking an Rav4 off-road...within it's capability limits.

The Toyota model is the main factor in off-road capabilities so of course a 4Runner TRD Off-road is more capable than a Rav4 Off-road. Both can wear the TRD badge.
 
TRD = Toyota Racing Development and not exclusively for Off Roading.
There is a TRD Camry and Avalon!

TRD just means the Toyota model got some kind of TRD treatment / accessories and badges. Nothing wrong with taking an Rav4 off-road...within it's capability limits.

The Toyota model is the main factor in off-road capabilities so of course a 4Runner TRD Off-road is more capable than a Rav4 Off-road. Both can wear the TRD badge.

I watched a video on YouTube where one of the engineers, I think that's what he was, talks about all they did. Shocks, custom Faulken tires, balancing the vehicle, etc etc. Sounded pretty sweet to me. From the start they wanted it to be more of a rally feel and not a rock crawler. From what he says it seems like they smashed their goal.

I was honestly really impressed with the new Rav4 when I test drove one before I picked up the 4Runner. If this would have been an option then it would have been an even harder decision to go with the 4Runner. My only gripe with the Rav4 is the power and it made my wife sick to ride in the back seat. She's 4'10 and the seats are in low and she couldn't see out the windows.

Totally think it's worthy of the TRD badge.

I'm so happy I purchased a 2019.

Hear! Hear!

i thought that at first and now i dont miss having a key or having to use a fob to unlock my car at all.

Fob goes in my left pocket under my wallet. Garage door at work, garage door at home. I most days the keys never leave my pocket. Since I put in the SmartStart cellular module I really have no reason to ever take the fob out of my pocket unless I change pants. I never have to worry about loosing my keys now.
 
That's very different dash unit than the Alpine one with the tiny opening.

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It's not a tiny opening. It's still a double DIN slot behind the F309. It's pretty much the same as the Scosche kit, but it might be slightly better quality if it's really supplied by Alpine.

I want to like the F309, but the 800x480 resolution is bad for a 9" screen. I also hate that they make it mount in a fixed orientation. They could have at least added a simple forward/back tilt joint like this Chinese POS. Still prefer the ILX-207.

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Placing my order next week

Going to get one in a couple months too. I kind of want the new factory head unit, but I don't really want to deal with the TSS-P when modding or the random malfunctions it will probably have like when they added in to the Tundra.
 
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Cancelled order for 2019

Going to cancel my order/deposit on my 2019 TRD Pro which was supposed to be at Port on 2/13 and at dealership by end of Feb/early March.

Army Green is my favorite Toyota color. And I'm looking forward to the new Car Play/Android Auto. The rest of the features are just bonus to me.

Hope they don't increase the price too much... !

I just emailed my dealer and asked him to refund my $500 for the incoming 2019 4Runner TRD Pro and apply it to a 2020.
 
Based on the official New Releases.....is my summary correct for the 2020 models of 4Runner ?

(1) Select 4R Grades - Push Button

(2) Select 4R Grades - upgraded multimedia systems that include Android Auto with Apple Car play + Amazon Alexa Compatibility (no talk of large screen on 4R)

(3) All grades - Safety Sense and therefore also a new Instrument panel

(4) TRD Pro - Army Green

Disappointment - No LED headlights, or blaced-out tail lights like the new 2020 Taco Pro for 4R Pro
 
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Based on the official New Releases.....is my summary correct for the 2020 models of 4Runner ?

(1) Select 4R Grades - Push Button

(2) Select 4R Grades - upgraded multimedia systems that include Android Auto with Apple Car play + Amazon Alexa Compatibility (no talk of large screen on 4R)

(3) All grades - Safety Sense and therefore also a new Instrument panel

(4) TRD Pro - Army Green

Disappointment - No LED headlights, or blaced-out tail lights like the new 2020 Taco Pro for 4R Pro

Yup, you got it. They also had to modify the front grill to accomodate for the adaptive cruise control. So there's that black rectangular box now under the Toyota text.
 
Not trying to be mean-spirited here... can someone explain the fanatical preoccupation with push button start? Does this feature do something more than just make it so you don’t have to turn a key? What am I missing?

It’s nice not having to take out your keys or even hunt for then deep in your bag to get into and srtart your car. Especially here, now when it’s 20 below with wind chill.
 
Based on the official New Releases.....is my summary correct for the 2020 models of 4Runner ?

(1) Select 4R Grades - Push Button

(2) Select 4R Grades - upgraded multimedia systems that include Android Auto with Apple Car play + Amazon Alexa Compatibility (no talk of large screen on 4R)

(3) All grades - Safety Sense and therefore also a new Instrument panel

(4) TRD Pro - Army Green

Disappointment - No LED headlights, or blaced-out tail lights like the new 2020 Taco Pro for 4R Pro



I believe that all T4R trims get CarPlay and Android Auto for 2020.


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My one suspicion about these being the only changes is that even in all of Toyota's tweets they don't tag the 4Runner, even though they're consistent with hashtagging in their posts, and I have also heard from a source that the final list of changes will be announced during a press release closer to sale date.

Take a look here:
Toyota USA on Twitter: "#ICYMI we unveiled some BIG truck & SUV news @ #CAS19 #Tacoma, #Sequoia #TRDPro #RAV4 #TRD Off-Road and #LandCruiser Heritage Edition. Learn more: https://t.co/49IOwOG7vY… https://t.co/JFvZKnAOzs"

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but recall that in the TRD PRO reveal Toyota only mentions the 4Runner in the broader infotainment and safety changes to the entire lineup. Every other vehicle in that press release mentions the available powertrains, even if they haven't changed, for the other 4 vehicles. Even if there weren't any significant changes, Toyota has in the past still hyped the vehicle up specifically, instead of in passing.

Don't lose hope people! I'm also surprised that the 4Runner hasn't been spotted yet even though the CAS19 opened its doors this morning. Are they even displaying the 2020 there? We also need to make sure if there is a 4Runner that it's not a 2019 model, like in last month's show. If not, it could possibly mean they have a card up their sleeve, wanting to make a bigger splash with the 2020 4Runner refresh seperately as to not overshadow any of the other announcements.

Just my observations.
 
I just emailed my dealer and asked him to refund my $500 for the incoming 2019 4Runner TRD Pro and apply it to a 2020.

How are you guys doing this, my dealer said not until 3 months before release. Canceled the 19, went to another dealer and they said same thing
 
One more thing to go wrong, and have you seen prices on replacement fobs? I was quoted $550 to replace one my wife locked inside her Mercedes, (along with the spare.. doh). Ordered a blade key for $60 to unlock (AAA would butcher the door panels to pry it open) - but one can't use it to actually drive.

At least with normal key I can use a simple mechanical copy in a pinch.

I think auto open function when one is nearby is not safe.

Not sure I’d agree, unless the battery dies with it in the car you can’t lock the fob in the 4Runner. Ive had to use the mechanical key once, worked fine and when you follow the instructions to place the dead fob on the button and press to start it worked perfectly.

Not having to take the keys out of your pocket is extra convenience not a “trend” per the other comment. It’s also quite nice to roll the back window down with the press of a button. Toyota did a nice job on this system and after 8 years mine works perfect other than replacing the fob battery twice, which I could easily do myself each time.
 
How is it that the damn TRD rav 4 is up to date with how most cars look inside now compared to the sequoia, tundra and 4runner! :frusty:
 
Not sure I’d agree, unless the battery dies with it in the car you can’t lock the fob in the 4Runner. Ive had to use the mechanical key once, worked fine and when you follow the instructions to place the dead fob on the button and press to start it worked perfectly.

Not having to take the keys out of your pocket is extra convenience not a “trend” per the other comment. It’s also quite nice to roll the back window down with the press of a button. Toyota did a nice job on this system and after 8 years mine works perfect other than replacing the fob battery twice, which I could easily do myself each time.

Luddites will be luddites. People seem to forget that no matter how "old school" the 5th gens are, they're still packed to the brim with electronics. Everyone talks about these worse case scenarios but I've yet to hear of someone be stranded in the middle of nowhere because of a key fob - isn't part of this lifestyle being proactive with preparation to begin with? If it's such a concern, then mitigate that concern by carrying a spare battery. There's a lot more in these vehicles that can fail from hard use, and I doubt it's the ignition system. Also, if the "driving nannies" really make your daily life difficult, all of the TSS features can be permanently turned off using Techstream if one so desires.

Either way, people need to stop shaming tech upgrades just because they don't need it or don't like it, or need to justify their purchase for not having it. This is the 21st century, and there's no way to avoid such things. At the end of the day the purpose and ability of the 4Runner remains the same, and doesn't look like that's going to change for the foreseeable future.

My only gripe with these updates is the damned garrish location of the TSS radar. I welcome the attempt, but the implementation seems like a bit of an afterthought - there's that huge Toyota logo bar in the center of the grille they could've utilized - if they can fit it in the round emblem on every other Toyota and Lexus equipped with the system, I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a little extra engineering to make it a little more discreet.
 
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How are you guys doing this, my dealer said not until 3 months before release. Canceled the 19, went to another dealer and they said same thing



He is basically keeping the “deposit” in an account and applying it when able.


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I can't find it now, but I could have sworn at one point over the last week I read that the 4Runner TRD Pro was going to get an 8" screen with CarPlay, and all the other 4Runner trims were going to get a 7" screen with CarPlay.

How is it that the damn TRD rav 4 is up to date with how most cars look inside now compared to the sequoia, tundra and 4runner! :frusty:

Because the Rav4 was just completely redesigned in 2018?
 
The keyless system depends on several antennas placed within the vehicle to detect the key. If one fails the vehicle wont start. On my 2008 Lancer Evolution the system never failed but it also had a cover to remove and start the car normally. Most new ones just have a button no key hole, like my Ford that happened to fail. In the manual it says to hold the key directly at the button when depressed to start but I think that's more for a battery failure, most of the time that battery lasts thru two owners.

Watch videos on what happens when it fails. Best case scenario the interior is stripped and the antenna are replaced and it all works again. This crap is almost guaranteed to fail over time. It's not needed.

I've owned several vehicles with this feature and it's okay. The idea is that you dont have to think about what you're doing when entering and starting your car. Ask amazon Alexa to get your music and navigation going and you sip you're drink and text Kimberly about what a stud you are... dont worry driverless EV are coming soon!

Luddites will be luddites. People seem to forget that no matter how "old school" the 5th gens are, they're still packed to the brim with electronics. Everyone talks about these worse case scenarios but I've yet to hear of someone be stranded in the middle of nowhere because of a key fob - isn't part of this lifestyle being proactive with preparation to begin with? If it's such a concern, then mitigate that concern by carrying a spare battery. There's a lot more in these vehicles that can fail from hard use, and I doubt it's the ignition system. Also, if the "driving nannies" really make your daily life difficult, all of the TSS features can be permanently turned off using Techstream if one so desires.

Either way, people need to stop shaming tech upgrades just because they don't need it or don't like it, or need to justify their purchase for not having it. This is the 21st century, and there's no way to avoid such things. At the end of the day the purpose and ability of the 4Runner remains the same, and doesn't look like that's going to change for the foreseeable future.

My only gripe with these updates is the damned garrish location of the TSS radar. I welcome the attempt, but the implementation seems like a bit of an afterthought - there's that huge Toyota logo bar in the center of the grille they could've utilized - if they can fit it in the round emblem on every other Toyota and Lexus equipped with the system, I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a little extra engineering to make it a little more discreet.
 
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