2020 TRD Pro Updates - Army Green & Push Button Start

[sandcrawler]

"The 2020 4Runner TRD Pro is distinguished by a new grille design, as the lower section houses the radar sensor for Toyota Safety Sense-P (TSS-P), which is standard for all 4Runner grades for the 2020 model year. "

this lower grill looks terrible.

seriously. i'm most impressed that Toyota managed to make the post-refresh front end look even worse. oh what a feeling!

 

[TeamHeq]

I can't find it now, but I could have sworn at one point over the last week I read that the 4Runner TRD Pro was going to get an 8" screen with CarPlay, and all the other 4Runner trims were going to get a 7" screen with CarPlay.



Because the Rav4 was just completely redesigned in 2018?

All 2020 TRD Pros get Android/Car Play. According to the press release the Sequioa gets 7" and 4Runner will have 8:2020 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro Opens Path to Family Adventures, Leads Charge for Updates on all TRD Pro Models | Toyota

"TRD Pro Upgrades All Around for 2020

The Sequoia TRD Pro leads a lot of “new” across the TRD Pro family for 2020. All TRD Pro models feature upgraded multimedia systems that include Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, and Amazon Alexa compatibility. The Tundra, Tacoma and 4Runner TRD Pros will all rely on an 8-inch touchscreen, while the Sequoia TRD Pro will feature a 7-inch touchscreen. In addition, all grades of 2020 Sequoia, Tundra, 4Runner and Tacoma will utilize this updated audio system, though screen size may vary between models......


The 2020 4Runner TRD Pro is distinguished by a new grille design, as the lower section houses the radar sensor for Toyota Safety Sense-P (TSS-P), which is standard for all 4Runner grades for the 2020 model year.

Just like Sequoia, Tundra and 4Runner TRD Pro models add Smart Key with Push Button Start for 2020, and the 4Runner also gains two additional rear-seat USB ports."

 

[TeamHeq]

How are you guys doing this, my dealer said not until 3 months before release. Canceled the 19, went to another dealer and they said same thing

I just called my sales guy (which is an acquaintance/friend of the family) and told him to cancel my reservation and put it on the 2020. He said I'd be the 1st Army Green from their lot. I was supposed to get the Super White '19 end of this month, which I already paid a $3K deposit. Wanted to maximize the amount of deposit I could put on a credit card (to get reward points).

I'll follow up with him once we get more details on the 2020's. Thanks [MENTION=308035]Toyster[/MENTION] for the heads up that other dealers are saying 3 months before release.

 

[zw470]

The Sequoia TRD Pro leads a lot of “new” across the TRD Pro family for 2020. All TRD Pro models feature upgraded multimedia systems that include Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, and Amazon Alexa compatibility. The Tundra, Tacoma and 4Runner TRD Pros will all rely on an 8-inch touchscreen, while the Sequoia TRD Pro will feature a 7-inch touchscreen. In addition, all grades of 2020 Sequoia, Tundra, 4Runner and Tacoma will utilize this updated audio system, though screen size may vary between models......

Could they have worded that any worse? All the Pros will get the new 8" infotainment system except the Sequoia which gets a 7". Also everything else gets the new infotainment system but we don't know what size :rockthrow:

 

[Offwidth]

Luddites will be luddites. People seem to forget that no matter how "old school" the 5th gens are, they're still packed to the brim with electronics. Everyone talks about these worse case scenarios but I've yet to hear of someone be stranded in the middle of nowhere because of a key fob - isn't part of this lifestyle being proactive with preparation to begin with? If it's such a concern, then mitigate that concern by carrying a spare battery. There's a lot more in these vehicles that can fail from hard use, and I doubt it's the ignition system. Also, if the "driving nannies" really make your daily life difficult, all of the TSS features can be permanently turned off using Techstream if one so desires.

Either way, people need to stop shaming tech upgrades just because they don't need it or don't like it, or need to justify their purchase for not having it. This is the 21st century, and there's no way to avoid such things. At the end of the day the purpose and ability of the 4Runner remains the same, and doesn't look like that's going to change for the foreseeable future.

My only gripe with these updates is the damned garrish location of the TSS radar. I welcome the attempt, but the implementation seems like a bit of an afterthought - there's that huge Toyota logo bar in the center of the grille they could've utilized - if they can fit it in the round emblem on every other Toyota and Lexus equipped with the system, I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a little extra engineering to make it a little more discreet.

I will be happy to have auto lights, blind spot radar, smooth and reliable 9sp transmission, well integrated CarPlay, sound insulation, and many other actually technological improvement improvements from my other car in 4Runner.

There is nothing advanced in push button, it is annoying, and useless.

 

[Big_Cuss]

People actually do need to shame needless tech.

The reason is that a lot of car engineering is designed around a useful 15-30 year lifespan. But now all this tech crap is being pushed on cars to make them become useless after 5 years instead of 15-30. And yet they still want us to spend the same money we did for something that used to last longer.

I say demand better. Keyless entry is great until Year 5, when you have to pull the key out anyway cuz the car loses awarebess of you walking away. Or pixels start burning out in the infotainment display and Toyota wants new retail price for a 5 year old technology replacement. And God help you once you become reliant on adaptive cruise control and it stops working.

So don't hate on the folks who want to call out the madness of making vehicle purchases based on tons of little convenience gimmicks instead of forcing Toyota to spend their R&D money on useful, long-lasting core features.

Like, get excited about something like Toyota adding direct and port injection to the 4.0L some day that bumps it to 25mpg, or a front locker, not because they added some passive safety tech or little screens or doodads that will be broken before you've paid off the car.

The only folks who should get excited for that stuff are serial leasers or trade-in addicts, who are Ok with losing $5,000+ in depreciation every 2-3 years because they're rich. And props to you, but that's $15,000+ in 3 trade in cycles that could've gotten an ROI if invested and bought you a turtleback trailer. So is it worth it?

The same exact value prop exists today for cars as 50 years ago.
4ish wheels that get you around without it being likely you'll get hurt, at around 75mph top speed, lasting at least 200,000 miles before you need replacement.

Everything else that's just a convenience item should be considered unnecessary if it can't either be very cheap to fix or last at least half the life of the car.

 

[TeamHeq]

People actually do need to shame needless tech.

The reason is that a lot of car engineering is designed around a useful 15-30 year lifespan. But now all this tech crap is being pushed on cars to make them become useless after 5 years instead of 15-30. And yet they still want us to spend the same money we did for something that used to last longer.

I say demand better. Keyless entry is great until Year 5, when you have to pull the key out anyway cuz the car loses awarebess of you walking away. Or pixels start burning out in the infotainment display and Toyota wants new retail price for a 5 year old technology replacement. And God help you once you become reliant on adaptive cruise control and it stops working.

So don't hate on the folks who want to call out the madness of making vehicle purchases based on tons of little convenience gimmicks instead of forcing Toyota to spend their R&D money on useful, long-lasting core features.

Like, get excited about something like Toyota adding direct and port injection to the 4.0L some day that bumps it to 25mpg, or a front locker, not because they added some passive safety tech or little screens or doodads that will be broken before you've paid off the car.

The only folks who should get excited for that stuff are serial leasers or trade-in addicts, who are Ok with losing $5,000+ in depreciation every 2-3 years because they're rich. And props to you, but that's $15,000+ in 3 trade in cycles that could've gotten an ROI if invested and bought you a turtleback trailer. So is it worth it?

The same exact value prop exists today for cars as 50 years ago.
4ish wheels that get you around without it being likely you'll get hurt, at around 75mph top speed, lasting at least 200,000 miles before you need replacement.

Everything else that's just a convenience item should be considered unnecessary if it can't either be very cheap to fix or last at least half the life of the car.

Agree with some of your comments, but not about the "leasers" comment. I keep my vehicles a long time and this is going to replace a 2006 Sienna that we've owned for 10 years.

I changed my mind on the '19 Pro because of the color (Army Green was my all-time favorite Toyota color and wanted an FJ just because of that, but had to get a more practical vehicle for the family). I also wanted CarPlay, so this saves me from having to upgrade the headunit on my own.

Agree that a lot of tech is just there for the bells and whistles and can fail sooner than non-techy stuff. My Sienna is an XLE Limited, which has "dynamic Laser Cruise Control" - I guess this is kind of similar to adaptive as it slows down when you get too close to the car in front of you. But, I almost never used this; only maybe once a year if that. The automatic sliding doors failed a couple years ago right outside of Toyota's extended recall warranty on the doors.

But, if I bought the '19 TRD Pro now, I'd be kicking myself later this year for not waiting for my favorite color and the newer tech/features. I was planning on only light modifications, not full blown getting a new bumper/winch, upgrading suspension, etc. So to me, the 2020 is exactly what I wanted.

Yes, there will always be something better and nicer. But that's the way things work. They're not going to make the perfect vehicle in it's first year. They slowly add upgrades so they create demand/reasons for customers to by the next year's vehicle.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[jimgsmith]

Luddites will be luddites. People seem to forget that no matter how "old school" the 5th gens are, they're still packed to the brim with electronics. Everyone talks about these worse case scenarios but I've yet to hear of someone be stranded in the middle of nowhere because of a key fob - isn't part of this lifestyle being proactive with preparation to begin with? If it's such a concern, then mitigate that concern by carrying a spare battery. There's a lot more in these vehicles that can fail from hard use, and I doubt it's the ignition system. Also, if the "driving nannies" really make your daily life difficult, all of the TSS features can be permanently turned off using Techstream if one so desires.

Either way, people need to stop shaming tech upgrades just because they don't need it or don't like it, or need to justify their purchase for not having it. This is the 21st century, and there's no way to avoid such things. At the end of the day the purpose and ability of the 4Runner remains the same, and doesn't look like that's going to change for the foreseeable future.

My only gripe with these updates is the damned garrish location of the TSS radar. I welcome the attempt, but the implementation seems like a bit of an afterthought - there's that huge Toyota logo bar in the center of the grille they could've utilized - if they can fit it in the round emblem on every other Toyota and Lexus equipped with the system, I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a little extra engineering to make it a little more discreet.

I think the pictures we have seen are a prototype, and the TSS radar will be better hidden by the time this is released.

 

[jimgsmith]

Could they have worded that any worse? All the Pros will get the new 8" infotainment system except the Sequoia which gets a 7". Also everything else gets the new infotainment system but we don't know what size :rockthrow:

I think by saying that all Pros get the 8” implies that all non-pros get the 7”.

 

[Z-MAN54]

I just called my sales guy (which is an acquaintance/friend of the family) and told him to cancel my reservation and put it on the 2020. He said I'd be the 1st Army Green from their lot. I was supposed to get the Super White '19 end of this month, which I already paid a $3K deposit. Wanted to maximize the amount of deposit I could put on a credit card (to get reward points).

I'll follow up with him once we get more details on the 2020's. Thanks [MENTION=308035]Toyster[/MENTION] for the heads up that other dealers are saying 3 months before release.

If I remember correctly Toyota started taking orders for Dealer allocation on the 2019 model in July of 2018 and around August 2019 4Runners started showing up at Ports. I followed it closely through a dealer last year waiting for my 2019 Pro. 3 months from today seems a little optimistic. But who knows? Good luck!:yield:

 

[STX4Runner]

Not going to get too far into the debate on push button (it's not keyless, you still have a key) start. But, I rent cars a lot for work, and even the most basic Nissan or Hyundai sedan I get has this feature now. Maybe if you use it every day its good, or if it's better implemented. On these cars, I still have to get the fob out and push the unlock button, so now the keys are not in my pocket and it totally defeats the purpose. And for me at least, I don't want the huge key fob in my pocket while I'm driving, so I have to find a place for in in the console. With a normal ignition, I know where the keys are.

As far as the new TRDs are concerned, I will say the rack on the Sequoia looks pretty good. A better version of the FJC and current TRD 4Runner rack.

 

[Snyder]

Not going to get too far into the debate on push button (it's not keyless, you still have a key) start. But, I rent cars a lot for work, and even the most basic Nissan or Hyundai sedan I get has this feature now. Maybe if you use it every day its good, or if it's better implemented. On these cars, I still have to get the fob out and push the unlock button, so now the keys are not in my pocket and it totally defeats the purpose. And for me at least, I don't want the huge key fob in my pocket while I'm driving, so I have to find a place for in in the console. With a normal ignition, I know where the keys are.

As far as the new TRDs are concerned, I will say the rack on the Sequoia looks pretty good. A better version of the FJC and current TRD 4Runner rack.

I also really like the looks of the new rack. I wonder if we can fit it onto the 4runner. I'd also be curious to see the load capacity for it - roof top tent??

 

[arehman11]

Went to the show today, didn’t have the 2020 on display to where you can see the interior. But it did have a side exit TRD exhaust, which was listed on the card.

 

[Quentin]

Not going to get too far into the debate on push button (it's not keyless, you still have a key) start. But, I rent cars a lot for work, and even the most basic Nissan or Hyundai sedan I get has this feature now. Maybe if you use it every day its good, or if it's better implemented. On these cars, I still have to get the fob out and push the unlock button, so now the keys are not in my pocket and it totally defeats the purpose. And for me at least, I don't want the huge key fob in my pocket while I'm driving, so I have to find a place for in in the console. With a normal ignition, I know where the keys are.



As far as the new TRDs are concerned, I will say the rack on the Sequoia looks pretty good. A better version of the FJC and current TRD 4Runner rack.

Every push button start Toyota I’ve driven unlocks the doors automatically when you slip your hand into the handle. Doors lock when you either touch the button on the handle (older style) or just touch the touch point on the top of the handle.

I do like the Sequoia rack better.




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[TeamHeq]

Went to the show today, didn’t have the 2020 on display to where you can see the interior. But it did have a side exit TRD exhaust, which was listed on the card.

I wonder if the TRD exhaust that you saw is standard or is an available option? For the Sequioa, an available option is the TRD cat-bat exhaust. Exact words from the press release:

"Sequoia TRD Pro will also be available with a TRD cat-back exhaust. The single-outlet exhaust features a black chrome tip and TRD debossed logo, offering a bolder exhaust note that TRD engineers designed with a frequency-tuned sound cancellation device to improve in-cabin sound quality."

I haven't read anywhere about the 4Runner having an optional TRD exhaust. But you saw it there at the show and the 2020 4Runners photo page shows a close up of the TRD exhaust tip. 2020 4Runner TRD Pro | Toyota

 

[STX4Runner]

I also really like the looks of the new rack. I wonder if we can fit it onto the 4runner. I'd also be curious to see the load capacity for it - roof top tent??

Probably wouldn't fit, but the old style trail edition side rails will and they're higher than the current rails, so mounting a tent is not problem. Just get better crossbars. Use 8020 aluminum extrusions or unistrut. The current side rails will work too, they're just lower.

 

[STX4Runner]

Every push button start Toyota I’ve driven unlocks the doors automatically when you slip your hand into the handle. Doors lock when you either touch the button on the handle (older style) or just touch the touch point on the top of the handle.

I do like the Sequoia rack better.




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Maybe I've just never noticed or tried on the rentals I get. I'll try next time.

 

[4central]

Any news about remote start on new models?

 

[Quentin]

Any news about remote start on new models?

Many of the Entune 3.0 allow remote start via your phone. It is called Remote Connect. It isn’t verified if it works that way the for 4Runner, though. Sienna, CH-R, and Mirai don’t support it, for example. It is a subscription service on the other vehicles after 6 months. $80/yr or $8/mo.


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[Khjphoto]

Really?! Pushing $50,000.00 ahhhhh it ain't any better then the 5th! Anyway,
Don't we buy these thngs to get out into the bush to camp? So guess you can say, we want to leave the "modern world" and live like it was 1890!

Shiiiit, when the EMP hits none of these are gonna work anyway. Wish I had a FJ55! No damn computers and will knock the socks off any 4Runner!

Just sayin'.