24's on 3rd gen...
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Okay. I've been readin' throu' this thread and had a little bit of wondering.
I've owned several 4runners throughout the year, (and still own 2 of them today). Altho' they are 1st and 2nd generation runners, they still have almoust the same bearing system as the new ones.
First of all, I'd like to say that I can find few things on earth as ugly as a 4runner on "low profile".
But that's just my opinion, whatever floats yer boat or something like that.
Bearing and brakes:
Some of the 4runners I've had, have been on 38"x15,5" tires (wich weight about 50-60kg/100-120lbs aprox. per tire on a wheel)
Original brake system, and worked just fine. No issues on that, it took it about 3-5m (I'm not sure what that is in feets) more to final stop from 90km/h (aprox 55mph) on 38" than on the original 31"
The only problem was that the tires started slippin' alitle bit earlier if they were worn, like on all cars.
The bearings were still original on one of them, driven 140.000km (70k miles aprox.).
The other ones I don't know, and I recently replaced all bearings in the new rig because of the solid axle swap, but that one is driven 280Mm (around 140k miles I think) and had new bearings in 240Mm (120k miles), after about 180Mm driving on 35" tires, on original bearings. Now it's on 38" most of the time and on special occasions, 44" DC/FC
Of course, there is more stress on all vehicle components when so big and heavy tires are used, but still, by the look of what I've seen in my cars, it's not so much more. Of course, I'm an "home" educated mechanic, so maybe I'm doin' some things alittle bit different than other people who just "own" the vehicle (Ever thought about retightening your bearings, once a year?).
And of course, as I'm drivin' on so big tires, I'm always checking with all the wearing components, spindle bearings and wheel bearings, steering joints and other stuff that might break or wear throughout my years.
And FYI, I'm not the type of a character that uses soft hands while drivin' in rough conditions. Just yesterday I broke one of the brackets that hold the right rear shock. (Not original bracket, just a stupid design by the former owner...)
I've driven through ice that would normally crush the frontend of a vehicle (thanks to my homemade "bumper" it survived), and I've jumped few meters in open air.
So, I think, that these wheels will not have much effect on the bearings and braking.
But there's only one way to find out! Just try!
Okay. I've been readin' throu' this thread and had a little bit of wondering.
I've owned several 4runners throughout the year, (and still own 2 of them today). Altho' they are 1st and 2nd generation runners, they still have almoust the same bearing system as the new ones.
First of all, I'd like to say that I can find few things on earth as ugly as a 4runner on "low profile".
But that's just my opinion, whatever floats yer boat or something like that.
Bearing and brakes:
Some of the 4runners I've had, have been on 38"x15,5" tires (wich weight about 50-60kg/100-120lbs aprox. per tire on a wheel)
Original brake system, and worked just fine. No issues on that, it took it about 3-5m (I'm not sure what that is in feets) more to final stop from 90km/h (aprox 55mph) on 38" than on the original 31"
The only problem was that the tires started slippin' alitle bit earlier if they were worn, like on all cars.
The bearings were still original on one of them, driven 140.000km (70k miles aprox.).
The other ones I don't know, and I recently replaced all bearings in the new rig because of the solid axle swap, but that one is driven 280Mm (around 140k miles I think) and had new bearings in 240Mm (120k miles), after about 180Mm driving on 35" tires, on original bearings. Now it's on 38" most of the time and on special occasions, 44" DC/FC
Of course, there is more stress on all vehicle components when so big and heavy tires are used, but still, by the look of what I've seen in my cars, it's not so much more. Of course, I'm an "home" educated mechanic, so maybe I'm doin' some things alittle bit different than other people who just "own" the vehicle (Ever thought about retightening your bearings, once a year?).
And of course, as I'm drivin' on so big tires, I'm always checking with all the wearing components, spindle bearings and wheel bearings, steering joints and other stuff that might break or wear throughout my years.
And FYI, I'm not the type of a character that uses soft hands while drivin' in rough conditions. Just yesterday I broke one of the brackets that hold the right rear shock. (Not original bracket, just a stupid design by the former owner...)
I've driven through ice that would normally crush the frontend of a vehicle (thanks to my homemade "bumper" it survived), and I've jumped few meters in open air.
So, I think, that these wheels will not have much effect on the bearings and braking.
But there's only one way to find out! Just try!
firepawn
New member
Runner on 24's
I've been reading this whole thread about putting 24's on a 3rd gen runner, and I don't see what the big deal is. EVERYONE has there own opinion on what looks good on a truck. Some people dig slingin' mud and some like lookin' good in the streets.
Putting 35's with mud tires has the same effect on brakes, axles, c/v joints etc. as big chrome wheels. I've had multiple other yotas from a 1st gen with 37's and a chevy sb 350 to a 2001 with 35's. My current 4runner has 22" chromes on it. From experience my 22's are much lighter than any mud tire set up I've ever had. Actually about 20lbs lighter per corner than my factory wheels and tires too.
I'm not picking any sides but I guess what I'm trying to say is, this thread started as a guy asking how big of rims he could fit, and turned a bunch people telling him how dumb an idea it was. We all know toyotas are awesome offroad, but not everyones into it, get over it.
I've been reading this whole thread about putting 24's on a 3rd gen runner, and I don't see what the big deal is. EVERYONE has there own opinion on what looks good on a truck. Some people dig slingin' mud and some like lookin' good in the streets.
Putting 35's with mud tires has the same effect on brakes, axles, c/v joints etc. as big chrome wheels. I've had multiple other yotas from a 1st gen with 37's and a chevy sb 350 to a 2001 with 35's. My current 4runner has 22" chromes on it. From experience my 22's are much lighter than any mud tire set up I've ever had. Actually about 20lbs lighter per corner than my factory wheels and tires too.
I'm not picking any sides but I guess what I'm trying to say is, this thread started as a guy asking how big of rims he could fit, and turned a bunch people telling him how dumb an idea it was. We all know toyotas are awesome offroad, but not everyones into it, get over it.
RonMAIDEN
Super Moderator
I gave my opinions and I gave advice about safety and performance and monster rims for the street hurts pretty much every performance aspect of a street going vehicle and does nothing to to help performance as it's a look-at-me mod only.
At least when an off roader puts huge muds/lift on he is admittedly taking away it's on-road performance for the off road variety and they know this.
The misconception I see with a good portion of the oversize wheel SUV crowd is they have a sport vehicle just because they have big street tires and drive fast when they've actually become more of a danger.
At least when an off roader puts huge muds/lift on he is admittedly taking away it's on-road performance for the off road variety and they know this.
The misconception I see with a good portion of the oversize wheel SUV crowd is they have a sport vehicle just because they have big street tires and drive fast when they've actually become more of a danger.
morgend
New member
It's funny how people look down on modifying vehicles to their personal taste. The same people who dislike the big rims on SUV's also seem to think that putting airbags on a truck is just as much of a party foul. What's even funnier is how people get so caught up in the "My truck is a beast offroad." I'm going to avoid blanket statements, because I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion on the issue. However, I just finished reading through the post on "Lowered 4runners" and was sort of disgusted by some peoples replies. I have respect for anyone who is willing to spend an afternoon, week, or even an entire year in a garage to make their vehicle the way they want it.
I grew up in the mini truck scene, and I've heard it all... "Toyota's are supposed to 'go up'..." or "You just ruined the resale value." Truly, I've heard them all... I guess the thing to keep in mind is that people take pride in what they drive... Whether it's a gnarly lifted 4runner, or a '87 Chevy suburban sitting on it's rocker with 24" wheels, someone had a dream to make what they thought was cool... Just keep in mind that someone might think a mod you did on your rig was lame... It's a preference thing, if people cared about "being average" they would drive something stock.
I grew up in the mini truck scene, and I've heard it all... "Toyota's are supposed to 'go up'..." or "You just ruined the resale value." Truly, I've heard them all... I guess the thing to keep in mind is that people take pride in what they drive... Whether it's a gnarly lifted 4runner, or a '87 Chevy suburban sitting on it's rocker with 24" wheels, someone had a dream to make what they thought was cool... Just keep in mind that someone might think a mod you did on your rig was lame... It's a preference thing, if people cared about "being average" they would drive something stock.
