255/75/17 or 285/70/17 KO2s on 2" Lift?

does anyone ever complain that the 4runner's Limited trim runs a 245? It's most likely not an issue of snow worthiness but more of america's obsession with fat and wide ass tires

In snow, I feel like the 245s were more limited with the typical tread patterns of a highway tire, but they did a pretty good job of cutting through the snow to dig to the pavement. One of the things that stood out to me with the 245s on my Limited was how quickly it was to reach the limits of grip on fast corners like highway onramps and offramps. Not that I drive like a racecar driver or anything either, it's still a massive brick of a truck after all.

I can certainly see why some folks are hesitant to move to 255s. I know one of the big concerns that folks have is that highway stability and handling, especially potential emergency maneuvers, could be negatively impacted. You're talking about a lot more sidewall flex given the taller sidewall height and typically these trucks are lifted too increasing the center of gravity.
 
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In snow, I feel like the 245s were more limited with the typical tread patterns of a highway tire, but they did a pretty good job of cutting through the snow to dig to the pavement. One of the things that stood out to me with the 245s on my Limited was how quickly it was to reach the limits of grip on fast corners like highway onramps and offramps. Not that I drive like a racecar driver or anything either, it's still a massive brick of a truck after all.

I can certainly see why some folks are hesitant to move to 255s. I know one of the big concerns that folks have is that highway stability and handling, especially potential emergency maneuvers, could be negatively impacted. You're talking about a lot more sidewall flex given the taller sidewall height and typically these trucks are lifted too increasing the center of gravity.

Yeah that's why I don't like the look of them it makes the truck look "tippy". But if the backspace of wheels/spacers puts the outer edge at the same place as wider ones I don't think it actually is tippy. I think you have to run them quite high psi because of the sidewall. I like a bunch of sidewall I want to put 16" rims on if I can. I saw a 2nd gen Tacoma with nice looking 16" steel wheels... they were all the steel spare wheels from 3rd gen 4runners he had collected, painted and got to fit the calipers somehow lol.
 
Yeah that's why I don't like the look of them it makes the truck look "tippy". But if the backspace of wheels/spacers puts the outer edge at the same place as wider ones I don't think it actually is tippy. I think you have to run them quite high psi because of the sidewall. I like a bunch of sidewall I want to put 16" rims on if I can. I saw a 2nd gen Tacoma with nice looking 16" steel wheels... they were all the steel spare wheels from 3rd gen 4runners he had collected, painted and got to fit the calipers somehow lol.


Tacoma’s can run a 16” but 4Runners are limited to 17”.


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When you air down the contact patch increases lengthways much more than sideways. You also have more downward pressure with tall skinny so it's more usable traction.

How many skinnies do you see on competitive or professional Baja Races, King of Hammers, Rubicon Trail, or Moab?

Skinnies are only good in very few situation. Contact patch will always be bigger on wider tire.
 
Everything becomes a trade off at some point. The trick is finding the compromise that works for you. Here is some of the timeline, needs, and experience that lead me to my present choice:

As for myself, compared to OEM Bridgestones the rolling resistance of the larger 285/75/17 Toyo was just too much of a dog for daily driving. Also my wheel bearings had to be swapped after 25k on them... Coincidence, I dunno. (FYI I’ll be adding a set of spidertrax soon, sooo...?)

Off road tho, the 285 ride was especially sublime when aired down and grip was generally fine too, but climbing and navigating certain steeps at altitude was again altogether doggy and under powered. Maybe regearing is the better answer, but going to tall skinnies has been a pleasing compromise.

With 285s, Mpg was in the 15’s as a daily driver, now it’s in the 18’s and a good bit higher on highways. On road, the skinny 235 42lb Cooper LTs roll VERY easily. Off road and aired down, those same rocky steeps are no more of a challenge than they were before. Traction is very similar but turning and steering the skinnies feels favorable. I’ve not flatted out once either.

As for “snow driving” this was one of my main motivators going skinny AT tire. In zero cases have I ever found myself “floating” on deep snow. Somewhere there is a bottom, and when you find that you’ll find traction if you don’t get too much snow underneath first. Conditions matter. But on snow packed roads, sure, siping-studs-contact patch are whats needed, and they did fine. The Cooper AT tread likewise works great on snowy roads (btw I’ll air down a bit here too) and are quiet and well mannered when the road is normal too. *BUUUUUUT*.... the bigger difference for my needs is that I now easily fit tire chains for when the going gets grim. Which it has and which the Cooper AT would certainly be outdone by a more aggressive tread in any width. But for no more often than that comes about, that’s how I’ve chosen to address the one shortcoming. (Although if they weren’t so heavy, I think I’d like the 235/80/17 ST Maxx.)

All that said, a 255/75 might have worked out just as well for 99% of what I do but a smaller 32” tire gave me a precious inch of clearance (think chains) and also a step back towards the factory gearing/tire ratio.

So there you have a bit of the calculus that lead me to my choice of compromise for what I do. But you do you for your own good reasons and it’ll probably work out great. Good luck OP.
 
I just took off my Duratrac 255's on steelies and put on Yoko A/T' 265's on alloys because I am going to be doing a lot more paved road driving in the next few months. With the ToyTec 1.6" up front, the 255's were awesome looking but noisy and had a noticeable effect on acceleration and MPG's.

what kind of noticeable acceleration and and mpgs are we talking about? better or worse acceleration? better or worse mpg?

The duratracs look like a noise monster by tread design
 
Oooh, forgot to mention that with 285s and no bumper carrier for a spare, well that was a problem. A 235/80/17 spare tucks in even better/flatter than stock. Detriments, benefits, compromises.
 
Oooh, forgot to mention that with 285s and no bumper carrier for a spare, well that was a problem. A 235/80/17 spare tucks in even better/flatter than stock. Detriments, benefits, compromises.

A 285/70/17 tire will fit in the stock spare location underneath. Plenty of people do it with different brands of tires in that size. It's tight but it fits and it will hang down a bit lower because the tire is wider, but this has never caused an issue for me while on trails. If anything drags on these big booty 4runners it's usually the hitch.
 
A 285/70/17 tire will fit in the stock spare location underneath. Plenty of people do it with different brands of tires in that size. It's tight but it fits and it will hang down a bit lower because the tire is wider, but this has never caused an issue for me while on trails. If anything drags on these big booty 4runners it's usually the hitch.

I concur - 285 fits just fine in that location.

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Okay, I stand corrected, they can fit. I only recall cranking up a 285 to test fit, fussing with it a good bit, and feeling like I’d loose too much precious clearance. Just didn’t work for me.

Now for the sake of comparison, the slim 32” 235 slides in easy and all but disappears. I even gain a bit of clearance (for whatever it’s worth, which may be nothing at the end of the day—all depending on the day of course).
 

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what kind of noticeable acceleration and and mpgs are we talking about? better or worse acceleration? better or worse mpg?

The duratracs look like a noise monster by tread design

Worse mpg (roughly 1 mpg) and more sluggish acceleration for sure. There is also a noticeable humming on pavement with the Duratracs.
 

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