285/70-R17 GoodYear MT/Rs

[AlexJet]

FOR SALE:
Set of 4 tires. GoodYear Wrangler MT/Rs 285/70-R17 (33").
80% tread left (~15'000km)
$500 + shipping or local pick-up.

If someone is interested in rims as well, they are American Racing Baja Polished 17x8 $250 for a set of 4.

 

[AlexJet]

** SOLD **

 

[Spaceman]

285/70R17

Just bought a new 2008 T4R V6 and plan to install larger 285/70R17 tires. Based on your experience, do you thing they will fit ok.

Thanks

 

[Falls]

Re: 285/70R17

Just bought a new 2008 T4R V6 and plan to install larger 285/70R17 tires. Based on your experience, do you thing they will fit ok.

Thanks

They will NOT fit unless you lift and do trimming.

 

[Spaceman]

Thanks for your response.

Can you please help me understand the problem a little better.
I have measured forward and aft of the original tire, 265/65R17, with the wheels straight and turned to both extremes and I am finding more clearance available than the one inch larger radius needed for the bigger tire.

I put a 12 inch block under one of the front tires and still have more than 2 inches clearance between the top of the tire and the finder. Note, this car has a huge torsion bar up front so 90% of the body rotation occurs in the rear. The front for the most part stays lined up with the front tires. Therefore, I don't see one of the front struts ever bottoming out except for very extreme situations. I'll take that chance for rubbing at the top in this case.

Also, the new tire section width shows to be 1 inch wider. My measurements shows more than 3/4 inch clearance all around the back side of the original tire. Therefore, It looks to me like all of the struts, steering, swing arm parts should clear the new tire with the additional width.

Please advise what I am overlooking and what is incorrect in my conclusion. I am new at this and trying not to make a mistake.

Thanks.

 

[AlexJet]

Thanks for your response.

Can you please help me understand the problem a little better.
I have measured forward and aft of the original tire, 265/65R17, with the wheels straight and turned to both extremes and I am finding more clearance available than the one inch larger radius needed for the bigger tire.

I put a 12 inch block under one of the front tires and still have more than 2 inches clearance between the top of the tire and the finder. Note, this car has a huge torsion bar up front so 90% of the body rotation occurs in the rear. The front for the most part stays lined up with the front tires. Therefore, I don't see one of the front struts ever bottoming out except for very extreme situations. I'll take that chance for rubbing at the top in this case.

Also, the new tire section width shows to be 1 inch wider. My measurements shows more than 3/4 inch clearance all around the back side of the original tire. Therefore, It looks to me like all of the struts, steering, swing arm parts should clear the new tire with the additional width.

Please advise what I am overlooking and what is incorrect in my conclusion. I am new at this and trying not to make a mistake.

Thanks.

Based on my and other members experience the maximum tire size you can put without lift is 265/70-R17 which is 32" tire (stock 265/65 are 31.5").
If you want 33" tire (285/70-R17), you'd need to lift the vehicle at least 2". You'd also requre to do some plastic trimming to the inner fender. 3" lift will minimaze the trimming.
For full 33" (33/12.5-R17 or 305/65-R17) would require 3" lift.
For 34" (305/70-R17) you would need 3" plus at least 1" body lift.
For 35" (315/70-R17) you'd need minimum 3" + 1.5" body lift.
In theory you can fit 33" in 2" lift or 35 in 3.5" lift, but with major trimming of plastic and metal! I don't think you'd want to do it as of this point (2008 vehicle).
Cheapest way for you is spacers. For city driving will be enough. If you plan off-roading much, think of OME or even coilovers.

Suspension travells allot and in extreme can hit the fender. The problem with 4Runners is not that fende is not high enough for larger tires, its that fender is not wide enough.

 

[Wolf]

too big???

Based on my and other members experience the maximum tire size you can put without lift is 265/70-R17 which is 32" tire (stock 265/65 are 31.5").
If you want 33" tire (285/70-R17), you'd need to lift the vehicle at least 2". You'd also requre to do some plastic trimming to the inner fender. 3" lift will minimaze the trimming.
For full 33" (33/12.5-R17 or 305/65-R17) would require 3" lift.
For 34" (305/70-R17) you would need 3" plus at least 1" body lift.
For 35" (315/70-R17) you'd need minimum 3" + 1.5" body lift.
In theory you can fit 33" in 2" lift or 35 in 3.5" lift, but with major trimming of plastic and metal! I don't think you'd want to do it as of this point (2008 vehicle).
Cheapest way for you is spacers. For city driving will be enough. If you plan off-roading much, think of OME or even coilovers.

Suspension travells allot and in extreme can hit the fender. The problem with 4Runners is not that fende is not high enough for larger tires, its that fender is not wide enough.

I mentioned in another post I tried to have 4Wheel parts today install Nitto 285/65R18 Terra Grapplers on 18x9 with 4.5" offset on my 3" revtek lifted '05 4x4 and they said there's no way even with trimming?? How then is it done? I have spacers but they say even if the tires were farther out there isn't enough room in the wheel well.????

 

[AlexJet]

Re: too big???

I mentioned in another post I tried to have 4Wheel parts today install Nitto 285/65R18 Terra Grapplers on 18x9 with 4.5" offset on my 3" revtek lifted '05 4x4 and they said there's no way even with trimming?? How then is it done? I have spacers but they say even if the tires were farther out there isn't enough room in the wheel well.????

Wheel spacers would not do anything, they will makes things worse as in your case tires will hit the body at full turn. Wheel spacers are need in case of using stock rims to make then within specs of 4.5" backspacing aftermarket.
To fit 33" into 3" lift you'd need to trim some of the inner fender on the front of the fenderwell, approximatelly 5-6" from the bottom not counting the "triangles". You should be fine with that. I had 285/70-R17 on 17x8 and that all trimming I had at that time.
To fit bigger tires then 33", you'd also need to trim fender at the front and rear of the fenderwell and possible modification of the firewall, not counting that you may need to do some mods to the frame as well. So be ready for cut, weld, grind.

 

[Wolf]

Re: Re: too big???

Wheel spacers would not do anything, they will makes things worse as in your case tires will hit the body at full turn. Wheel spacers are need in case of using stock rims to make then within specs of 4.5" backspacing aftermarket.
To fit 33" into 3" lift you'd need to trim some of the inner fender on the front of the fenderwell, approximatelly 5-6" from the bottom not counting the "triangles". You should be fine with that. I had 285/70-R17 on 17x8 and that all trimming I had at that time.
To fit bigger tires then 33", you'd also need to trim fender at the front and rear of the fenderwell and possible modification of the firewall, not counting that you may need to do some mods to the frame as well. So be ready for cut, weld, grind.

Oh boy. Well I'm gonna remove the mudflaps and put on a Roger Brown Bodylift (1.25") and go back there and do a testfit again. I don't want to take too much off the outer lower fender- I'm fine with loosing as much of the interior as I have to. I love the wide tire / wide stance look as well as being able to clear the rocks and worn paths I ride when I go shooting or down to Mexico. Thanks for your help.

 

[Wolf]

back tire shot of revtek 2" rear

 

[Wolf]

Front shot of Revtek 3"

 

[Wolf]

Sorry to hijack your thread but you sold them anyway and this is related

Here is the area I was worried about dealing with with the 32.5" tires (285/65/18 Nitto T/Gs). Other than removing the mudflaps (lower arrow) I won't have to do anything to that part of the liner right? (Upper arrow)

 

[AlexJet]

Sorry to hijack your thread but you sold them anyway and this is related

Here is the area I was worried about dealing with with the 32.5" tires (285/65/18 Nitto T/Gs). Other than removing the mudflaps (lower arrow) I won't have to do anything to that part of the liner right? (Upper arrow)

I didn't trim that inner fender when I had my 33", so you're fine. But mudflaps are to go.

 

[AlexJet]

Front shot of Revtek 3"

This would have to go:

 

[Wolf]

This would have to go:

Cool. Mudflaps are off. I'm putting on my RB lift when it arrives and I'll go back and get em mounted then I can just trim that area up front only as much as is needed. This forum is great thanks to people like you- who help people like me from avoiding mistakes in modifications!!