285/75's worth it? or stick with 265/75s?

Mudlovr

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Hi everyone, first I'd like to say a quick thank you for all the help I have gotten thus far on the forum! You folks really know your stuff and I appreciate it alot!

In reading through the forum I have read of many folks trying to fit 285/75s who have had to do a body lift, a suspension lift, wheel spacers, and in some cases had to beat down pinchwelds etc. in order to make them fit. So my question is how much extra capability off road will a 285/75 tire provide over a 265/75 or a 235/85 tire? And under what circumstances is it really worth all that trouble? Finally, how much difference will a good aggresive mud terrain tire make over an all terrain tire off road and in what types of terrain will it make the biggest difference? Thank you!
 
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I would guess it all depends on what you plan on doing with your rig. but I am still a Noob here so I can only go so far. looking at a 00 tomorrow morning for my first 4runner :girl:

Hi everyone, first I'd like to say a quick thank you for all the help I have gotten thus far on the forum! You folks really know your stuff and I appreciate it alot!

In reading through the forum I have read of many folks trying to fit 285/75s who have had to do a body lift, a suspension lift, wheel spacers, and in some cases had to beat down pinchwelds etc. in order to make them fit. So my question is how much extra capability off road will a 285/75 tire provide over a 265/75 or a 235/85 tire? And under what circumstances is it really worth all that trouble? Finally, how much difference will a good aggresive mud terrain tire make over an all terrain tire off road and in what types of terrain will it make the biggest difference? Thank you!
 
Not the TIRE SIZE DEBATE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

basically 31's vs 33's

are you going to rock crawl with you 4runner? I wheel the heck out of mine and have been tossing around going to 35's. And yes the extra inch of ground clearance helps. plus it helps with climbing vertical ledges.

If you want a lifted 4runner do that, and 33's look better with the lift.
 
You'll definitely have to lift to fit a 285 tire. For most offroad I think you would see a noticeable difference. With the lift and tires you'd be looking at about 4" or more of extra ground clearance.

Is your 4runner your daily driver? I don't have experience with 285's, but even with my 265/70/17 (~32") tires my 4runner is a little sluggish. I would imagine that I would be fairly unhappy going up to an even larger tire.

As far as tires it really depends on which tires you are talking about. There are many different AT tires. There are mild AT tires such as the Goodyear Silent Armor or Michelin LTX2. Then there are more aggressive AT tires such as the BFG KO or even the Goodyear DuraTrac which is close to an MT.
 
If you got the cash, and really want to turn heads.......lift it and get those 285's!

As far as Off-Roading goes, alot of guys wheel with 265's, and are able to get around just about everywhere!

My rig is more about the show than the go, and I just love the look of a lifted 4Runner on big tires!

Here's a couple of shots of my rig:

Here's a pic with 31's:

lift.jpg~original


Here's a pic with 33's:

P1110309.jpg~original


Both picture number 1 and number 2 are pics with the Toytec Best Seller lift.

(3" spacer in front, 890 coils in back with front Diff Drop kit)
 
I'm running Yokohama AT/S 265/75s and rock crawl with guys with 285s and 305s. I'm able to do almost the same lines. I'm pretty flexxy and I rub. I'm pretty darn happy with my setup. As far as MT/AT tires. MTs look a lot more rugged. I don't wheel in much mud so my ATs do great for me. Great road manners too. If I wanted a more aggressive tire I would get the Duratrac. If I was in an area that I wheeled mud then I would get a MT.
 
ive had 265/70's, 265/75's, currently have 285/75's. my next set will be 255/85's. i personally don't like the width of the 285, i just think its a little overkill (and they rub). i am sticking closer to the 265's width with the Height of the 285 (33"). personal pref.
 
ive had 265/70's, 265/75's, currently have 285/75's. my next set will be 255/85's. i personally don't like the width of the 285, i just think its a little overkill (and they rub). i am sticking closer to the 265's width with the Height of the 285 (33"). personal pref.

this is what i'm thinking as well, love my duratracks though, i just hope they make them in that 255 size.
 
^ Those two comments above are a little confusing. Isnt 255 small that 265. But you wanna keep the height of the 285(33")? Are you trying to say that you prefer a narrower tire(65-70)?

I think that I may go with 275 instead of 285s with my 2.5 suspension lift. All these ppl talk about rubbing issues.

I guess Ill really see when my ProComp 98 Rims come in and see what the off-set looks like.
 
^ Those two comments above are a little confusing. Isnt 255 small that 265. But you wanna keep the height of the 285(33")? Are you trying to say that you prefer a narrower tire(65-70)?

I think that I may go with 275 instead of 285s with my 2.5 suspension lift. All these ppl talk about rubbing issues.

I guess Ill really see when my ProComp 98 Rims come in and see what the off-set looks like.

do some research and you will understand. there are some threads that explain metric tire sizes and include links to tire size calculators. 255/85/r16 is taller than the 285/75/r16.

255: 33.1
285: 32.8

4Lo.com :: Metric Tire Size to Diameter in Inches Calculator
 
Personally, I'm going with 265/75's on my next tire purchase ( I run stock suspension and will have wheels that are about 1/2 inch offset from stock)

When looking for tires, you might wanna go to the mfgr website and read the specs. Not all 265/75/16's are the same. They range from 31.4" up to 32" concerning inflated diameter. Inflated width also ranges from 10.3" to 10.9" .

All in all, everyone needs to make the mistake of buying tires that are too big. Thats how you learn. I learned that lesson with an S-10 I had. Couldn't do U turns and parallel parking sucked...but it looked cool.
 
Personally, I'm going with 265/75's on my next tire purchase ( I run stock suspension and will have wheels that are about 1/2 inch offset from stock)

When looking for tires, you might wanna go to the mfgr website and read the specs. Not all 265/75/16's are the same. They range from 31.4" up to 32" concerning inflated diameter. Inflated width also ranges from 10.3" to 10.9" .

All in all, everyone needs to make the mistake of buying tires that are too big. Thats how you learn. I learned that lesson with an S-10 I had. Couldn't do U turns and parallel parking sucked...but it looked cool.

find a friend w the tires you want if its a taco or 4runner and try em out first. thats what i did. you will thank yourself later. those 285s feel big without regearing.
 
You all make good points, sorry I wasn't clear about one point - I'm not comparing just adding the 265/75s at stock height Vs. the lift and 285/75s. Either way I intend to go for a lift - the size of tire just dictates how much. Therefore I guess for comparison sake I would be looking at a truck with a 2.5 or so inch lift with 265/75s or a truck with 3 inch suspension lift and a body lift. Thanks!
 
Hi everyone, first I'd like to say a quick thank you for all the help I have gotten thus far on the forum! You folks really know your stuff and I appreciate it alot!

In reading through the forum I have read of many folks trying to fit 285/75s who have had to do a body lift, a suspension lift, wheel spacers, and in some cases had to beat down pinchwelds etc. in order to make them fit. So my question is how much extra capability off road will a 285/75 tire provide over a 265/75 or a 235/85 tire? And under what circumstances is it really worth all that trouble? Finally, how much difference will a good aggresive mud terrain tire make over an all terrain tire off road and in what types of terrain will it make the biggest difference? Thank you!

The answer is.... it depends (of course). :biggrin2:

It is a balancing act. bigger tires mean less power. Bigger tires mean more clearance.

If you are just starting out and are not sure what type of wheeling you want to do, I would recommend that you invest in a more aggressive tread instead of increasing tire size. Especially if you have a rear locker, that truck will get through some pretty nasty terrain with the simple addition of aggressive tires. 265/75/R16 is either a tall 31 or a short 32, depending on make. 285/75/R16 is a short 33. It is basically the same as the 265/75/R16. just proportionally bigger. You will not notice much difference strictly due to the tire size increase.

You can complicate things by changing the tre size to a size that acts differently, such as a 235/85/R16, a short 32, or a 255/85/R16, a tall 33. These tires are skinny and tall (85% aspect ratio). They confer certain advantages, particularly in the rutted muddy roads of the back country. They will provide just as much bite as the 285/75s but will have a narrower stance, which makes them a little less stable and provides less flotation (like in deep mud). For my type of off-roading (Overland travel), this tire type is ideal due to greater efficiency and the additional clearance without increasing drag and rolling resistance.

Clearance is the other factor, and is at the core of the issue. Additional clearance makes driving the trails easier... less for you to worry about. It will be harder for you to get hung up on stuff and you will have more available lines to choose from when traversing rough terrain. High clearance also comes to the detriment of lateral stability, something you should keep in mind when making your selection.

Here is my recommendation: Get improved suspension, such as the OME kit here, and invest in some M/T tires. The small amount of additional clearance coupled with the increased traction will get you through surprisingly nasty terrain.

If you decide later that you want to go bigger, just add a body lift and the bigger tires. Once you have made the modifications to run big tires, its tough to go back.

There is one thing you must understand about getting big tires on these trucks... its a slippery slope. Putting 33s on or adding a lot of weight and you will be wanting to upgrade your brakes. Bigger tires will leave you hurting for power, and you will want gears. All this costs money. Be prepared to spend around $5000 if you want to have the ride characteristics you have now with 33" tires. Of course you don't have to spend it all at once, and there are plenty of folks who don't change gears or upgrade brakes. They are making a compromise in return for the benefit of slightly higher ground clearance.

Hope this helps,

Leary

EDIT: Sorry for the long response... didn't see your last post.
 
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your name is MUDLOVR, go with the BIG lift add 3" of body lift, drop in a v8 and tractor tires!! yeehaw!!!

I started with 2.5" lift and 265/75's now I am at 3+/- with 285/75's and I am content, for now!

Take a pic of your rig, start a build thread and just keep updating as you change/modify and when you think you are done, LOL cuz u will never be done. Then look back on this question and give the next guy that is asking your advice.

I would recommend starting with the lift and more agressive tires as Leary stated, you will be amazed what you can drive over and you will also be in a better position to decide how much higher you want to go!
 
OK also on the little confusing part. To help answer the question on Metric Sizing

285/75/16
285 is tread width in Milimeters(MM)
75- is aspect ratio(percentage) of sidewall height in relation to the tread width so in this case 75% of treadwidth will give you your sidewall height
16-rim diameter(self explanatory)

This should help explain how you could have a narrower tire that is taller 255/85/16
 

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