360 HP 4Runner...
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I know, I'm agreeing with you.
gamefreakgc
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If I had $20,000 to blow, I sure wouldn't use for a turbo on a 4Runner.
I'm sure it's fun to drive but you could front a down payment for a house with that sort of cash.
I'm sure it's fun to drive but you could front a down payment for a house with that sort of cash.
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It's a complete high performance engine rebuild, not just a turbo.
For $20,000 you can buy an Edelbrock crate 350 from 410 hp to 500+ hp but then you have to deal with new engine mounts, transmission & harness's.
$20,000 is only a 20% down payment on a $100,000 house. I don't even know where they sell those.
jeremyc74
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That's because you live in NY. :hatsoff:
white rocket
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"I sent the entire motor in for cryogenic freezing" Alongside Snipes and Stallone to be preserved for the future? Ha! Had to say it.
Seriously though, props for taking on a build like this. No small feat I'd imagine. I'd be curious about the available tuning software as that is the key to having an awesome rig or a bag of bolts.
Seriously though, props for taking on a build like this. No small feat I'd imagine. I'd be curious about the available tuning software as that is the key to having an awesome rig or a bag of bolts.
JayRolla
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Yes and in something like this he would have most likely gone full EMS.
I don't know what's funny about it. He has SOME proof, I would want to know the full details, before I took someone I don't know at their word.
I build and have built lots of engines. In recent years, mostly racing engines. I find that a lot of people don't really know what they are talking about, when it comes to engines, let alone high(er) performance engines.
Dyno horsepower claims are another area where there is a tremendous gray area. Different types and brands of Dyno's and the measuring scale used can give wildly different numbers, and a dyno operator can also really effect those numbers too.
You have seen the difference between different types of Dyno's, to know to take dyno number claims with a grain of salt.
SlickmisterN
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^ Good points,...which is why a capable and educated buyer would ask such questions.
You strike me as neither.
Quit flexin. That vehicle is beast and you know it.
Quit flexin. That vehicle is beast and you know it.
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Detroit. In those parts that no one lives, anymore. lol.
"Flexin" Are we in Highschool?
I simply stated I would want to know the full details before I took someone I don't know at their word.
A vehicle for sale in which THE major selling point is it's modified engine, wanting to know the details is called doing your due diligence.
KidVermicious
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You don't know 02SE or what he does, so if you'll pardon me I'm just going to butt in a little to say, he isn't "flexing". He walks the walk like very few other guys on this board. He's forgotten more about building a motor than 50 normal guys will learn in a lifetime. I ain't saying the man is infallible, but when 02SE talks motors, we'd all be wise to shut up and listen.
The vehicle does indeed appear to be beast and I would love to spank that throttle like a redheaded stepchild, though I would definitely be asking lots of specific questions if I were in the market for such a ride. I'd do the same with anybody's project/baby, be it crawler or race car or street muscle. There's lots of wrong ways to make a rig "beast". :thumb:
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gamefreakgc
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Lol, with $20,000 you could by a whole neighborhood in Detroit.
Down payments usually average around 5-10% minimum to get into a house. But anyway the point I was trying to make was our 4Runners are heavy and about as aerodynamic as a brick. There's just not really made for top end performance like a sports car ya know?
Sure it'll dyno 360 whatever but try to duplicate that on a track. It'd still be a blast to drive, but spending big bucks to squeeze every last HP out of the engine isn't going to get you far when you've got a vehicle with very little downforce and high wind resistance.
JayRolla
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Yes I know they can change those numbers, its call uncorrected and corrected numbers. I dont need educated. Its just funny that dynos, receipts and proof of work is not enough. I guess only if you built it would it be good enough proof that the work was done correctly. Why question this guy when you know nothing of him and the build.
1985taylor1925
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turbochargers are stupid. 4runners are stupid. you guys are all stupid. Im going to go buy a sweet 90's Ford Explorer
SlickmisterN
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Everyone in this thread is 100% right. Sorry to escalate things. bad day.
There are other ways to fudge the numbers, too. I've seen too many unscrupulous dyno operators fudge the numbers for questionable reasons.
I wasn't mentioning it for you specifically, but rather those that may not be aware of how "Dyno numbers" really don't mean much without a bit more context.
You seem to misunderstand what my point was.
To recap: My point was that if I were interested in buying this 4Runner, I would want much more detail of the engine in particular, than the little bit of info posted in the ad. The implication being that anyone that is interested in buying this 4Runner, should find that info out, before buying.
Seriously?... that is exactly why I would question him and the build. He may very well be a great guy, that did a great job on this 4Runner. Without more info, we have no way of knowing that though.
Clear enough?
BlazeRunner
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Maybe we can get a group together and go pick this guy's brain. I'd be interested in just seeing this beast.
RussToy
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I might be able to help with the "why" someone would spend $20,000 on this. You have to remember he said he's in the military. Gosh, I can't count how many times I saw this while I was in the Army....especially with the single guys! You have to remember the military provides all your basic needs...3 hots and a cot! So you really don't have anything to spend your money on. Some guys earn an enlistment or re-enlistment bonus ($2-40,000+)!! Then your unit gets deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan for 6 to 10 months. Think about how much money you'd have in the bank after a 6 month deployment...taking no or very little money out of the bank. Oh and you also get a 20-25% pay raise while gone...because you don't pay federal taxes and get combat pay...to boot! That's quite the payday when you get home...well, if you make it back home!!
Anyway, all that money starts to burn a hole in your pockets. Guys start looking for something to spend their money on...which normally ends up being 1 of 3 things: vehicles, guns, or stereos...or a combination of all 3! So spending $20,000 (or whatever he spent) is not unheard of or crazy. Might be to yall civilians...but in the military, it happens.
Oh and before anyone says it...money on beer and woman are automatic. That's like an almost automatic pay deduction and doesn't requires mentioning...lol!!!!
Hope this shines some light on "why" Someone would be dumb enough to spend all that moeny on a 5VZ in a 4Runner....and then turn around and sell it one year later with only 8000 miles on it!!
-Russel
Anyway, all that money starts to burn a hole in your pockets. Guys start looking for something to spend their money on...which normally ends up being 1 of 3 things: vehicles, guns, or stereos...or a combination of all 3! So spending $20,000 (or whatever he spent) is not unheard of or crazy. Might be to yall civilians...but in the military, it happens.
Oh and before anyone says it...money on beer and woman are automatic. That's like an almost automatic pay deduction and doesn't requires mentioning...lol!!!!
Hope this shines some light on "why" Someone would be dumb enough to spend all that moeny on a 5VZ in a 4Runner....and then turn around and sell it one year later with only 8000 miles on it!!
-Russel
