4Runner failed me today

PRdubi said:
good deal...so the 4th and 5th Gens are pretty bullet proof compared to the 2nd and 3rd Gen auto setups?
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I hope so? All I do know is that my 97 was an awesome truck and NEVER failed me on the trails in Summer or Winter. Hopefully my 11 will treat me just as well.
 

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As for using 4wd periodically I have on my way home from work a couple of stretches of straight road that are about a mile long on which I engage the 4wd hi sometimes as much as 5 times a week. I do not think that the miles in 4wd need be done all at once.
 
Ok, [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] wins this round of solve the Internet/life/off-roading dummy's problem. This morning became the 2nd time I ever engaged 4L following the proper and critical point (for me) to press DOWN on the selector. My apologies for my stupidly - stick around I'll have more. And yes it was a grade and not a slope. My buddy drives a Ford F-150 and he's a normal guy who likes busting balls (just like I would have if his Mexican? built Ford got stuck). I take full ownership of my failure to know how to operate my own vehicle and my lack of offroad experience. But at least this unnecessary thread made some readers aware of what was probably an Antman post about "use it or loose it" and the need to engage 4H monthly.

As always, thank you T4R members.
 
Dan0280 said:
Ok, [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] wins this round of solve the Internet/life/off-roading dummy's problem. This morning became the 2nd time I ever engaged 4L following the proper and critical point (for me) to press DOWN on the selector. My apologies for my stupidly - stick around I'll have more. And yes it was a grade and not a slope. My buddy drives a Ford F-150 and he's a normal guy who likes busting balls (just like I would have if his Mexican? built Ford got stuck). I take full ownership of my failure to know how to operate my own vehicle and my lack of offroad experience. But at least this unnecessary thread made some readers aware of what was probably an Antman post about "use it or loose it" and the need to engage 4H monthly.

As always, thank you T4R members.
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Thanks for coming back in a clearing this up!
 
Dan0280 said:
Ok, [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] wins this round of solve the Internet/life/off-roading dummy's problem. This morning became the 2nd time I ever engaged 4L following the proper and critical point (for me) to press DOWN on the selector. My apologies for my stupidly - stick around I'll have more. And yes it was a grade and not a slope. My buddy drives a Ford F-150 and he's a normal guy who likes busting balls (just like I would have if his Mexican? built Ford got stuck). I take full ownership of my failure to know how to operate my own vehicle and my lack of offroad experience. But at least this unnecessary thread made some readers aware of what was probably an Antman post about "use it or loose it" and the need to engage 4H monthly.

As always, thank you T4R members.
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Good on you @Dan0208. I don't have the dial, but the picture on page 1 does seem confusing. Pushing, pulling, twisting, etc. At least you know you will never forget how to engage it again.
 
Dan0280 said:
Ok, [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] wins this round of solve the Internet/life/off-roading dummy's problem. This morning became the 2nd time I ever engaged 4L following the proper and critical point (for me) to press DOWN on the selector. My apologies for my stupidly - stick around I'll have more. And yes it was a grade and not a slope. My buddy drives a Ford F-150 and he's a normal guy who likes busting balls (just like I would have if his Mexican? built Ford got stuck). I take full ownership of my failure to know how to operate my own vehicle and my lack of offroad experience. But at least this unnecessary thread made some readers aware of what was probably an Antman post about "use it or loose it" and the need to engage 4H monthly.

As always, thank you T4R members.
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More importantly, call you friend up, and start the conversation.. "lets go back.. It's ON!!!!" lol..
 
Personally I'll never look at a Camarow the same after this thread, good times.

And OP, don't worry, if you keep your 4Runner for awhile you'll have the last laugh when your buddy's truck is Found On the Road Dead.
 
alaskaman said:
Actual in real life it equates.
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um, no - sorry.

i think you're confused with tractive effort vs traction. tractive effort being the tractive (read: drive) force plus the available friction, whereas traction itself is strictly related to a friction coefficient.

torque on the other hand, is a measurement of power
 
marshal said:
um, no - sorry.

i think you're confused with tractive effort vs traction. tractive effort being the tractive (read: drive) force plus the available friction, whereas traction itself is strictly related to a friction coefficient.

torque on the other hand, is a measurement of power
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In my scientific experiments in ditches both with and without snow, I get out of the ditch in 4lo and not out of the ditch in 4hi. care to apply that engineer's brain?
 
marshal said:
there are a lot of variables, like wheel spin, application of throttle etc.
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Thanks for proving my point. In 4lo wheel spin and force are decreased and increased...more traction. Additionally the weight of the vehicle plays a role and the position of the car front or rear facing up or down. We could go on and on but in the real world traction is created by more contact less spin and weight. Millions of $$ are invested in this for vehicles and planes....to get that maximum contact lower center of gravity and more force to the equation. I do find your posts are information....who knew?
 
alaskaman said:
Thanks for proving my point. In 4lo wheel spin and force are decreased and increased...more traction. Additionally the weight of the vehicle plays a role and the position of the car front or rear facing up or down. We could go on and on but in the real world traction is created by more contact less spin and weight. Millions of $$ are invested in this for vehicles and planes....to get that maximum contact lower center of gravity and more force to the equation. I do find your posts are information....who knew?
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Whether I proved your point or not, you're still incorrect. Wheel spin as a speed could be decreased due to the speed reduction, but you have multiplied the available power by 2.73:1 thus increasing the likelyhood of wheel spin. Your actions are multipled by that same figure. So going by your logic, 4low should actually decrease the available "traction" because there is too much power.

Weight shouldn't really matter, as the 4Runners have near perfect 50/50 weight distribution. The only weight shift that would matter is based on grades, and if the direction of the vehicle allows for a benefit of that weight shift or not.

So really, the use of 4low in your case is simply a difference in driving habits and control - not an actual gain of traction, which would violate the laws of physics.
 
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