4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium vs. TRD Pro

skydiver

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Is there that much difference between the two aside from the suspension components? I'm trying to locate a Barcelona Red TRD Pro here in Texas and it's a *****. Closest one is in Houston, 4 1/2 hrs away. One of the sales guys said it might be easier finding a Off Road Premium. Do most of you guys have the Premium or Pro? ugh, this has been a PITA, lol.
 
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Is there that much difference between the two aside from the suspension components? I'm trying to locate a Barcelona Red TRD Pro here in Texas and it's a *****. Closest one is in Houston, 4 1/2 hrs away. One of the sales guys said it might be easier finding a Off Road Premium. Do most of you guys have the Premium or Pro? ugh, this has been a PITA, lol.

I have a premium because I wanted a moonroof. Purchased the pro wheels for $726, skid plate for $255 and valances and upper grill and grill insert for $898 shipped. If I wanted Pro oem suspension it's approximately another $1,500 plus install. Tires, should be around 650-750 depending on where you get them and brand.

If I add up the cost from my price paid, I'll have 42,759 before suspension labor and I'll have a sunroof. You can always go with cheaper aftermarket suspension as well. Overall you'll spend less or approximately the same as pro msrp, but likely have more add ons plus have the option of sunroof and kdss. Interior wise they are identical except floormat badging.
 
Is there that much difference between the two aside from the suspension components? I'm trying to locate a Barcelona Red TRD Pro here in Texas and it's a *****. Closest one is in Houston, 4 1/2 hrs away. One of the sales guys said it might be easier finding a Off Road Premium. Do most of you guys have the Premium or Pro? ugh, this has been a PITA, lol.

How important are those suspension components, wheels, etc. to you?
 
How important are those suspension components, wheels, etc. to you?

I like the black wheels. I'm coming from having a Mustang & then 2 BMW's, so it's my first venture into the 4Runner game. Primarily was looking to have something that can get me in/out of muddy crap at the gun range. But it'd also be neat to be able to do some level of off roading, and I'm guessing the upgraded suspension would help. I'm just not real sure what advantage/disadvantage of the KDSS is.
 
When I try and configure a Off Road Premium with KDSS, sliding rear cargo deck and Barcelona Red, it's not available. Only in white. So aggravating. lol.
 
Red is a pain to find. I originally wanted a premium, but nobody had them in Red, and the dealers that did wouldn't trade my dealer for it, or they weren't interested in coming down on their price.

I found a Red Pro in LA and was able to knock them down 7K from what they were asking so I bought it (though I still overpaid).

I reached out to somewhere in the Baylor areas of Texas. I forget what the area is called. They had a red one at the time, but who knows if it's still there.
 
I went with the Premium because of the sun roof as well. Plus, I knew I was going to change the suspension so there was no point in buying a TRD Pro only to take off the stuff I paid for. The only real difference was the front end grill components but I wanted the blue and that was not available in the Pro. Looking at the cement color that's out now, I like it, but honestly I think I got the better end of the deal buying what I wanted and adding/modifying it later.
 
Red is a pain to find. I originally wanted a premium, but nobody had them in Red, and the dealers that did wouldn't trade my dealer for it, or they weren't interested in coming down on their price.

I found a Red Pro in LA and was able to knock them down 7K from what they were asking so I bought it (though I still overpaid).

I reached out to somewhere in the Baylor areas of Texas. I forget what the area is called. They had a red one at the time, but who knows if it's still there.

Yeah. One in Houston had it on the lot yesterday and it was gone today. Big problem is that they don't even have pricing for the '18's yet so I can't even order one, what a crock.
 
Yeah. One in Houston had it on the lot yesterday and it was gone today. Big problem is that they don't even have pricing for the '18's yet so I can't even order one, what a crock.

The original dealer I dealt with said they're still making them. Unless you don't want to wait, might want to ask your dealer to request one specifically for them. I was told it'd take about 3 months, which is why I drove to LA and got the Pro.
 
Sunroofs leak - they all do eventually. If you want to get in to a truck that has a wet seat after a rainstorm, get a truck with a sunroof.
Don't let anyone tell you different!

Go with the TRD Pro - simple is better - plus they have a cool grill and red coils on the front shocks!!

Sno Dawg
 
The original dealer I dealt with said they're still making them. Unless you don't want to wait, might want to ask your dealer to request one specifically for them. I was told it'd take about 3 months, which is why I drove to LA and got the Pro.

Yeah, between a few dealerships I think they're all admitting now that they can't order '17's anymore, but don't have the pricing yet for the '18's. It's beyond ridiculous.
 
Sunroofs leak - they all do eventually. If you want to get in to a truck that has a wet seat after a rainstorm, get a truck with a sunroof.
Don't let anyone tell you different!

Go with the TRD Pro - simple is better - plus they have a cool grill and red coils on the front shocks!!

Sno Dawg

My 2000 4Runner had a sunroof. Sold it in 2008 with about 150k miles on it. Sunroof never leaked. Bought a 2008 4Runner. Sunroof never leaked. Gave it to my dad about 8 months ago. Sunroof still doesn't leak. Don't be afraid of the sunroof. They're awesome.
 
My 2000 4Runner had a sunroof. Sold it in 2008 with about 150k miles on it. Sunroof never leaked. Bought a 2008 4Runner. Sunroof never leaked. Gave it to my dad about 8 months ago. Sunroof still doesn't leak. Don't be afraid of the sunroof. They're awesome.

The only time a sunroof leaks is if the drains get clogged from sitting under tree's, etc. My 2000 Camry had that happen, and I had to unclog the hose and haven't had an issue since.
 
Yeah, between a few dealerships I think they're all admitting now that they can't order '17's anymore, but don't have the pricing yet for the '18's. It's beyond ridiculous.

Going through the same thing right now. Dealership (handshake) sold me a Magnetic Grey SR5 Premium that another dealership had up in Washington. Dealership in Washington wouldn't trade it. After striking out for a solid week I have now asked 3 separate dealerships if we could just order one from the factory. All 3 just basically ignored my request and keep try to sell me something different (color or package). I think I have said "I don't want or need 3rd row seats" a hundred times in the last 3 weeks. Finally today I had a dealer find one, but it won't be onshore until early July. These things are like unicorns and at this point I won't believe it until I see it. Good luck skydiver.
 
I'd research KDSS and the rear e-locker on this and other websites and decide if those are things you want or not. Then visit some dealerships and see how you feel about the sunroof and the different upholstery material choices.

Then I would sit down and figure out how you're likely to use the rig, and then list the requirements you'd have.

And then be frank about whether you're someone who keeps the vehicle mostly stock, or whether you're VERY likely to pull off the wheels and suspension and maybe even bumpers and diffs at some point and upgrade them.

Depending upon the above, your direction should be clearer. KDSS -> TRD Off Road. Cloth upholstery -> SR5 or TRD Off Road (standard, not premium). Sunroof -> SR5 or TRD Off Road. Pretty much any feature of the TRD Pro (including the wheels) can be added to the TRD Off Road, as well as the SR5 (but which doesn't come with the rear e-locker).

If you're a huge hacker and don't want KDSS or the TRD Off Road/Pro's rear e-locker, maybe start with an SR5...
 
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I went with the Premium because of the sun roof as well. Plus, I knew I was going to change the suspension so there was no point in buying a TRD Pro only to take off the stuff I paid for. The only real difference was the front end grill components but I wanted the blue and that was not available in the Pro. Looking at the cement color that's out now, I like it, but honestly I think I got the better end of the deal buying what I wanted and adding/modifying it later.

Specs, brand, info on that trailer please.
Thanks.
 
I'd research KDSS and the rear e-locker on this and other websites and decide if those are things you want or not. Then visit some dealerships and see how you feel about the sunroof and the different upholstery material choices.

Then I would sit down and figure out how you're likely to use the rig, and then list the requirements you'd have.

And then be frank about whether you're someone who keeps the vehicle mostly stock, or whether you're VERY likely to pull off the wheels and suspension and maybe even bumpers and diffs at some point and upgrade them.

Depending upon the above, your direction should be clearer. KDSS -> TRD Off Road. Cloth upholstery -> SR5 or TRD Off Road (standard, not premium). Sunroof -> SR5 or TRD Off Road. Pretty much any feature of the TRD Pro (including the wheels) can be added to the TRD Off Road, as well as the SR5 (but which doesn't come with the rear e-locker).

If you're a huge hacker and don't want KDSS or the TRD Off Road/Pro's rear e-locker, maybe start with an SR5...

That's the hard part, it's hard to say. When I had a Mustang, I swapped out a lot of stuff. With my 2 recent BMW's, I haven't touched a thing... really didn't need to.

I started off wanting something still having 4 doors for easier access hauling the 2 kids around. But I also wanted something that can get me in/out of some of the outdoor gun ranges as they can get muddy on the roads. Not really sure how heavy on future mods I'd get. It'd be nice to do more than just hitting the mud. So when I start looking at the Off Road or Off Road Premium, the KDSS seems like it should work for me. Only problem is that there's no way to get the Barcelona Red, with the rear sliding cargo deck, and KDSS unless you go with the TRD Pro. It's so aggravating that Toyota doesn't let you add just one additional thing. So essentially I'd have to make a sacrifice and do without the rear sliding cargo deck, which sucks b/c that would be ideal for the gun range.
 

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