4Runners are the BEST out there

[jrv6a]

I bought a 2001 F150 so that my wife could drive the dependable 2005 4Runner.

Problems with the F150 = gauges flashing on and off, misfiring, suspension clunking, crank/no start, the list kind of goes on. Try Googling "2001 F150 crank no start" and look at the hundreds of articles on fuel pressure, GEM, PATS, and other problems.

Problem with the 4Runner = a CEL for a bad cat after banging it off road. That's it! We've been driving it 75 miles per day with the CEL and no other problems. I Googled "2005 4Runner crank/no start" and hardly got anything. Most of what I got was related to people who did mods and maybe forgot to plug something back in.

This is why I'm never buying anything but a Toyota again!

 

[andreylights]

And that is why people created a scientific discipline called "statistics", because an anecdotal experience should not be an evidence for a trend.

Its good to know that you are happy with reliability of your 4runner and upset about your f150, but it doesnt really mean much to anyone else :nicethread:

 

[Cloud9]

I bought a 2001 F150 so that my wife could drive the dependable 2005 4Runner.

Problems with the F150 = gauges flashing on and off, misfiring, suspension clunking, crank/no start, the list kind of goes on. Try Googling "2001 F150 crank no start" and look at the hundreds of articles on fuel pressure, GEM, PATS, and other problems.

Problem with the 4Runner = a CEL for a bad cat after banging it off road. That's it! We've been driving it 75 miles per day with the CEL and no other problems. I Googled "2005 4Runner crank/no start" and hardly got anything. Most of what I got was related to people who did mods and maybe forgot to plug something back in.

This is why I'm never buying anything but a Toyota again!

You just can't beat Japan quality parts and vehicles. I've been collecting them as I go and every time I but a new one I can't sell the old ones

 

[T4R2014]

There's a lot more F150s than 4Runners. You are more likely to come across more problems. They are some of the most solid fullsize pickups around when maintained despite the minor bugs.

 

[montijo505]

There's a lot more F150s than 4Runners. You are more likely to come across more problems. They are some of the most solid fullsize pickups around when maintained despite the minor bugs.

I love my 4runner, first Toyota I bought without knowing what I was getting really. Lucky for me no rust (southwest) and everything worked. I’ll stick with Toyota from now on.

That being said my step dad has a 01 expedition with about 170k on it and all it’s ever needed is routine maintenance. Biggest thing he’s ever replaced (recently) was the OEM alternator and before that I think the injectors (it sat for a few years at one point). Other than that it’s been oil changes, coolant, brakes, plugs and wires for 17 years now, he bought it with less than 20k on it in 02. He won’t budge on selling or trading when mom gets to nagging. He’s a huge Ford fan though, all he buys.


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[thennen]

I bought a 2001 F150 so that my wife could drive the dependable 2005 4Runner.

Problems with the F150 = gauges flashing on and off, misfiring, suspension clunking, crank/no start, the list kind of goes on. Try Googling "2001 F150 crank no start" and look at the hundreds of articles on fuel pressure, GEM, PATS, and other problems.

Problem with the 4Runner = a CEL for a bad cat after banging it off road. That's it! We've been driving it 75 miles per day with the CEL and no other problems. I Googled "2005 4Runner crank/no start" and hardly got anything. Most of what I got was related to people who did mods and maybe forgot to plug something back in.

This is why I'm never buying anything but a Toyota again!

In all fairness, your F150 is 19 years old. Probably a lot of miles, too. I'm a die-hard Toyota owner, but if I bought a 2001 4Runner, no telling how the previous owners treated it. Anything that old can have lots of problems. Still, overall, Toyotas hold up better as they age, rust notwithstanding.

 

[hinmo24t]

And that is why people created a scientific discipline called "statistics", because an anecdotal experience should not be an evidence for a trend.

Its good to know that you are happy with reliability of your 4runner and upset about your f150, but it doesnt really mean much to anyone else :nicethread:

do you think theres no objective data to back this up? im sure there is unless youre clueless, so your point is more subjective than his.

 

[81runner]

My brother's 01 f150, inherited from stepdad with all factory maintenance, blew a spark plug from cylinder 3 twice at about 180k. Since the engine rebuild, I've been doing all the service necessary. Some of it is a little tricky due to age(hard to find torsion bars and leaf springs for a 19 year old vehicle.) But we've done injectors, plugs, coils, flushed brakes, trans fluid and coolant and it's still running at 236k. I have 196k on my original engine, got it with 134k and all dealer maintained. I've done quite a list of stuff to it as well, but a lot of it was upgrades to suspension and just the regular maintenance you do to a vehicle that's 10 years and older. In the end, I feel like it has more to do with how you take care of a vehicle than anything, really. Though if you are going apples to apples, a tundra is the direct comparison to the f150 for the Toyota brand, and I don't see many f150 trucks hitting one million miles, but again look at the maintenance on those trucks. Mileage will vary of course. Depends on a multitude of factors like do you tow with it? Do you service it regularly? Do you haul heavy items frequently with it? How many miles do you put on in a year? Do you take it off road? What kind of climate is it living in? Do you drive aggressively? Every single one of these factors comes into play when you start comparing stats on vehicles, so it's hard to give an accurate account of which is truly better, especially since you aren't comparing apples to apples.
Now don't get me wrong, I love my 4runner. Second Toyota I've owned and I still have my first as well. No American iron in my pen currently and no plans to add any. And I'm pretty American. I've had a red Ford, junk. I've had a white Dodge, junk. I've had a blue GMC, less junk but still junk. I went with a Corolla because I wanted something that worked and that thing is still running like a top 16 years later with no major issues. So from there, I grabbed the 4runner when life dictated I needed a 4 wheel drive vehicle. And it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. But in retrospect, I know an awful lot about maintaining vehicles now at my age, whereas I didn't know too much when I had the American vehicles, all compact trucks. So is it really that they were junk? Or was it more of a factor of how I drove them and used them combined with my developing maintenance skills? I loved the red Ford ranger the most, and I'm willing to bet if I knew then what I know now about vehicles I would still have it and it would be running.

 

[emaz14]

There's a lot more F150s than 4Runners. You are more likely to come across more problems. They are some of the most solid fullsize pickups around when maintained despite the minor bugs.

Completely agree. Those things are tanks. Well maintained F150s usually have high resale value like Toyotas.

 

[firebirdguy]

every car/truck can & will have issues. way too many variables that contribute to problems.

toyotas are great vehicles & in general are better than most american or other foreign makes for any given year. & i love my 4runner so far after 1 year owning it....

BUT, dont kid yourself, toyotas & 4runners can & do have issues too. if you are basing your judgement of the f150 from google searches, do a google search for 4runners/tacomas or on here for things like:

blown head gaskets (pre 2006 V6)
frozen brake calipers (all)
stuck 4wd engagement
rumble strip transmission issues (torque converters)
all kinds of trouble codes
HVAC issues
&.. FRAME RUST!

all of these are somewhat common when searching for them, but as stated above it does not mean they all have the issues or that its an epdemic (besides maybe the brakes) way to many variables for why any vehicle has problems.... usually related to care/maint & miles/age.