4th Gen 4.7 Timing Belt Replacement for $276.48

DavisTN

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I just replaced my timing belt, water pump, timing belt idlers, timing belt tensioner, & serpentine belt all for less than $300, so I figured I'd post to share the help that I found.

I did a lot of research on this before committing to doing it myself. It seems like the cost to have a dealer perform this service ranges from $1,200-$2,000, and if you have a reputable mechanic, probably $700-$1,400. I couldn't justify spending that type of money for something that doesn't add HP or increase performance-- other than keeping the engine from dying, which is kind of important, I guess.

Here are the two MOST useful links that I was able to find.

Text:
M3 PINK: Changing it up! Toyota Land Cruiser 2UZ-FE Timing Belt Change

Video:
How To Change The Timing Belt In A Toyota V8 2UZ-FE / 3UZ-FE Tundra Sequoia LS430 - YouTube

The text version from m3pink was my primary manual, and it is very well written. I did create a word doc (attached) since his format did not print cleanly. I also removed some of the commentary and made the document as step-by-step as possible so I could have a quick reference handy. **One step that was omitted from m3pink's instructions was the advancement of the crank/cams from TDC to the neutral timing position prior to removal/re-installation of the timing belt. This step was covered in the video. After noticing the discrepancy in information, I did further research and found that some that changed the belt without advancing to the neutral timing position later had problems. This is an important step to remember. Make sure everything lines up at TDC, then advance about 10 degrees clockwise to the neutral timing position. This is indicated with a circular knob(?) extending from the block at the crank and by a "T" behind the camshaft gears.

Other than that, the only things that I found missing from both sets of instructions was the location of the engine block drain plug and a method for keeping track of which bolts/nuts/plugs/hoses go where and in which order to re-install them.

Engine Block Coolant Drain Plug is located on the passenger side of the block, below the exhaust manifold, at about the 3rd cylinder exhaust port. Connect a piece of tubing to the nipple and loosen the plug using a 10mm socket. It was a PITA to do this with a hose that did not hold itself on the drain nipple. I strongly suggest draining the block, as the advantages are two-fold: less mess when you remove the old water pump & a full system replacement when you refill the cooling system. Also, it was not mentioned which coolant to use. Use a Toyota coolant. If you had red (LLC) and didn't do a full flush, it is recommended to use red (LLC) again. The LLC does not come pre-diluted, so you'll also need to pick up distilled water to mix 50/50. I did a full flush, so I opted to change to the pink fluid (SLLC) which comes pre-diluted and has a bit longer change interval.

For the classification of which bolts go where, I used a simple system that I have used on other jobs. I simply assigned each bolt/nut a number in the order that I removed them in ascending order and put that number (with a sharpie) on the bolt/nut & on the part near the hole/bolt that it came off/out of. This system makes re-assembly a breeze, because you just go backwards. If you go from bolt #20 straight to #10, chances are you're going to have to remove some of those bolts to be able to install bolts numbered 19-11. This worked well for me and I did not have to guess which bolts went where when putting everything back together. I also made sure to label the crank gear as to which side is supposed to face towards the block and which side faces out. I read several writeups where the OP got this wrong and had to tear everything back apart simply to flip it around. I also noted the direction of any hoses that I removed (i.e. to block, to radiator, etc.)

All in all, the job took me about 10 hours of actual labor time. I have a greater appreciation for the way Toyota's are engineered and the quality control they are able to maintain. After 130,000 miles, everything still looked new, was easy to remove (no broken/stripped bolts), and went back together without any "I'll make it fit" moments with a mallet.

Here's how I came up with my cost of $276.48:
1. Timing Belt Kit: Mitsuboshi (OEM) timing belt, idler, idler tensioner, OEM water pump (Denso?), gaskets & o-rings cost $144.46 with free shipping on eBay
2. Serpentine Belt (OEM) $18.55 shipped from eBay
3. New timing belt tensioner (OEM) $32.15 shipped from eBay
4. Toyota SLLC (pink) coolant; system calls for about 3.5 gallons. I ordered 4. $67 shipped from Amazon.com
5. Misc.- Blue loctite, RTV silicon, rubber gloves $14.32
6. Harmonic/Crank Pulley tool- free rental from AutoZone

Tools that I already had that made the job easier:
- lots of extensions in various lengths
- torque wrench (ft lbs & inch lbs)
- cheater bar
-a clean, open work space to lay out the parts that you take out and the parts that are going back in

I had all the necessary parts for almost a full year before deciding to do the job. I was dreading tearing my engine apart with the chance of not being able to put it back together correctly. I'm glad that I did it myself, and I hope that this helps anybody considering doing it yourself to save money or to get a better understanding of your engine. With the help of the video and other writeups, the task was pretty straight forward. Good luck!

Chris
 
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Thanks for the info and welcome to the site. Ill definitely keep this handy for when I have to do mine in a year or two.
 
I really need to do this ASAP, my 2004 is way overdue for the timing belt and I just started hearing a squealing sound which I'm assuming is one of the bearings going out. Does this list include everything that can/should be replaced during a timing belt change? I'm trying to get an idea of how much I'll be spending.
 
TO OP: Thanks for this great info!:hatsoff:

Do you remember the seller you got your Timing Belt Kit from?

Anyone can comment on Mitsuboshi vs. Gates or other brands of the timing belts? Thanks!
 
I'm curious about reviews on the Mitsubishi vs. Gates kit as well. I'm at 90k and it's time for me to get in there and change the timing belt, water pump, and all the other things that goes with it.

Thanks for the great writeup and links! Really appreciate that.
 
I'm curious about reviews on the Mitsubishi vs. Gates kit as well. I'm at 90k and it's time for me to get in there and change the timing belt, water pump, and all the other things that goes with it.

Thanks for the great writeup and links! Really appreciate that.

when I did mine last year, I bought the aisin kit off rockauto. it came with a Mitsuboshi belt. I did a bunch of research on it, it turns out that company manufactures belts for a LOT of the OEMs. I decided it was good and went with it.

Mitsuboshi, Gates or any of the other top names should be fine. they have been making belts for a long time, they know what they are doing.
 
Ok great. Thanks for the feedback. This is my first time changing a timing belt, so I'm trying to do a lot of research and make sure I cover all my bases before I get in there and start taking things apart. Looking forward to saving myself a ton of money. :D
 
WOW!!! BMA parts is good products for a great price!!! for that price for parts I can afford to do it myself. Dealer quoted $975 for timing belt & water pump. For the price of parts and a space at the auto craft center with lift I would save almost $500... I could afford to do some upgrades too!!!! EVEN BETTER!!!
 
TO OP: Thanks for this great info!:hatsoff:

Do you remember the seller you got your Timing Belt Kit from?

Anyone can comment on Mitsuboshi vs. Gates or other brands of the timing belts? Thanks!

look at the prices at BMA parts. They have the AISIN kit for $240.
 
Sorry for not responding to questions about sources sooner! I haven't returned to this writeup in a while, and I wasn't getting notifications when responses were posted.

Here are the seller names for ebay parts:
Timing belt kit: CNSautoparts
Tensionser: Masterofpartz

7,500 miles since the change and still rocking strong.

For Andru1d- the kit itself did not include a new tensioner. You can re-use the factory tensioner. As I understand it, they rarely fail, but why re-use when you can replace for $32 and know that won't be the failure point. The kit also came with cam seals. Mine looked good, so I didn't replace them. Open up your valve covers- there really are 4 cams in there (2 per side)- scary stuff! I went ahead and replaced my serpentine belt while I had the radiator pulled out. If yours looks like it's getting close, do it when you do the timing belt. It's a royal pain to do with the radiator/fan shroud in the way.

Glad so many have found this helpful. Let me know if any other questions come up.
 
Sorry for not responding to questions about sources sooner! I haven't returned to this writeup in a while, and I wasn't getting notifications when responses were posted.

Here are the seller names for ebay parts:
Timing belt kit: CNSautoparts
Tensionser: Masterofpartz

7,500 miles since the change and still rocking strong.

For Andru1d- the kit itself did not include a new tensioner. You can re-use the factory tensioner. As I understand it, they rarely fail, but why re-use when you can replace for $32 and know that won't be the failure point. The kit also came with cam seals. Mine looked good, so I didn't replace them. Open up your valve covers- there really are 4 cams in there (2 per side)- scary stuff! I went ahead and replaced my serpentine belt while I had the radiator pulled out. If yours looks like it's getting close, do it when you do the timing belt. It's a royal pain to do with the radiator/fan shroud in the way.

Glad so many have found this helpful. Let me know if any other questions come up.



ebay does not search for the sellers you have listed.

maybe you can provide with exact link to the things you have bought.

i am in need of doing this job myself but unfortunately i wont do it myself due to a lack of free space and GARAGE(id do it outside but its winter time and i am afraid i wont get through the winter!!!)

Thank you very much in advance
 
Timing Belt Replacement

I just replaced my timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt and all pulleys and tensioners; the cost was around $380 and includes 3 gallons of antifreeze. I used all Toyota parts except for the serpentine pulley which was from Gates. My 4runner is a 2003 and only had 84K on the clock but I got concerned about the age of the belt at over 12 years.

Here is a picture of the 12 year old belt- there were no cracks or any issues other than a few areas where you could see the fiber "hairs" on the belt edge.
 

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I plan to replace all my belt and associated parts too. My problem is the prior owner replaced everything at 90k, BUT didn't spend the extra $150 to replace the water pump. So, the water pump has 119k on it, while all the other parts have 30k. I'm going to replace the radiator while I'm there too.

Great write up, OP.
 
my question is how did you guys torque down the crankshaft bolt without using a sst. or did you guys have the sst?
 
Hey folks I think I just ran into a good deal. the son of a friend works at Lexus as a master tech and this dealer does not have their shop open on the weekends and let their techs moonlight in the shop. The shop is phenominal. You could eat of the floors, etc...

Anyway, the tech quoted me a timing belt, serp belt, and water pump for $750out the door. Considering the parts are about $300 I think I am getting a screamin deal having a lexus tech do this. I dunno if it is even worth it for me to attempt at $450. I'd rather be drinking...
 
If you don't have the right tools or have never done anything like it before...yeah can't touch the price!

Me on the other hand...yeah I'll do it myself.

My question, is there any preference among this forum on brand of belt kit? I am looking on Rockauto and am more than happy with buying the $212 Continental kit with tensioner, or if Toyota is substanially better who is the prefered supplier(or just buy the Aisin kit from RAuto)? Similar question about a serpentine kit OE, Gates, or Dayco?

Thanks guys :cheers:
 
Its Time

DavisTN, thanks for that good post. Its time for me to order parts and like you, I do not look forward to the task. I replaced the timing chain on a Toyota P/U I owned several years ago. Bought the parts and snuck into ex's garage to do it while she was at work. Got it all tore down and discovered that the parts store sold me Chevy 350 gaskets. Had to wait for ex to get home to borrow her car :) and go buy parts to finish the job. She was pissed but I loved it. And I got the truck reassembled properly.

Thanks again.
jdavis
San Antonio, TX
 
I just finished mine this morning, using the Aisin TKT-021 kit which I paid $240 for at BMA. I later saw that Amazon sells the same kit for $175. Doh!

The timing belt and most of the components removed or inspected in the process looked pretty good. Two notable exceptions would be the water pump, which was leaking at the gasket, and the serpentine belt tensioner bearing which was very worn and spun a bit rough.

Service done at 93,500 miles.
 
The work isnt hard to do, it just a lot of stuff you have to take apart to get to it! Me and a friend did mine one evening, things went smooth for the most part, just a few busted knuckles.
 

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