CutthroatSlam
Senior Member
No I last change the transmission fluid at 240K miles. So, if I go to 60K intervals, I am due shortly.
50K trans maintenance
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No I last change the transmission fluid at 240K miles. So, if I go to 60K intervals, I am due shortly.
Steve40th396
Member
Understand. It was the Honda forums telling me it was the same as the Honda fluid you buy at the dealership.
As far as the 4runner, TLS-LV.. Okay.. I will check your link out. Thnx.
BlackWorksInc
New member
I really don't see the point of replacing the screen element vs. just cleaning it honestly. I can't say we do it regularly though; most of the the failed transmissions I have replaced or had the pan off to inspect didn't have horribly clogged filters to the point that it restricts flow significantly.
I don't think Toyota has really used a paper style transmission filter in their transmissions for a while, almost all the ones I've seen have been a fine mesh screen. You can usually remove them and spray them out with brake clean and blow them clean, though as I mentioned I haven't seen any really badly clogged before.
You'll always see a lot of gunk on the magnets, even on a new properly operating transmission; so don't get too freaked out when you drop the pan. But make sure the magnets go back in the same spots they were in and that when you torque the pan back on you try to "criss-cross" your tightening pattern, it will help the pan seat more evenly and hopefully not leak.
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I'm still hesitant to recommend anything other than the factory fluid, a lot of companies like to say "certified by Toyota or Asin" but, there's no real proof of said certifications nor do I recall seeing any documentation from Toyota regarding approved/certified WS alternatives (if you do have that document I'd love it for my own reference!). Also have never seen a definitive breakdown of what their additive packages vs. what WS additive packages are (hell I still can't find a definitive breakdown of what exactly WS is made of and what additives it has in it). My cautious skepticism aside, WS ATF has been around long enough that I would imagine companies like Amsoil, Valvoline, and Idemitsu could have made fluids comparable enough to it and plenty of people have beta-tested it for them, so I'm a little less knee-jerk about people wanting to use them than I was years ago; though I still stand by if you don't know what it is, you probably can't tell what to swap it out with.
I don't think Toyota has really used a paper style transmission filter in their transmissions for a while, almost all the ones I've seen have been a fine mesh screen. You can usually remove them and spray them out with brake clean and blow them clean, though as I mentioned I haven't seen any really badly clogged before.
You'll always see a lot of gunk on the magnets, even on a new properly operating transmission; so don't get too freaked out when you drop the pan. But make sure the magnets go back in the same spots they were in and that when you torque the pan back on you try to "criss-cross" your tightening pattern, it will help the pan seat more evenly and hopefully not leak.
Post Note-
I'm still hesitant to recommend anything other than the factory fluid, a lot of companies like to say "certified by Toyota or Asin" but, there's no real proof of said certifications nor do I recall seeing any documentation from Toyota regarding approved/certified WS alternatives (if you do have that document I'd love it for my own reference!). Also have never seen a definitive breakdown of what their additive packages vs. what WS additive packages are (hell I still can't find a definitive breakdown of what exactly WS is made of and what additives it has in it). My cautious skepticism aside, WS ATF has been around long enough that I would imagine companies like Amsoil, Valvoline, and Idemitsu could have made fluids comparable enough to it and plenty of people have beta-tested it for them, so I'm a little less knee-jerk about people wanting to use them than I was years ago; though I still stand by if you don't know what it is, you probably can't tell what to swap it out with.
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Valvoline MAXLIFE certifed by CuttThroatSlam's 4runner w/ 300k
JLofa
New member
Lurking through here and getting some good advice
Question though: if I bought my 4r used from a dealership with about 30k miles will I need to do the same maintenance as described in this thread?
I'm at 43k atm so looking to hit 50k by end of year-ish
Just wondering since I know dealerships have to run through a check list of maintenance approvals before hitting the lot, that being said, I wouldn't trust em with said checklist and competence
Question though: if I bought my 4r used from a dealership with about 30k miles will I need to do the same maintenance as described in this thread?
I'm at 43k atm so looking to hit 50k by end of year-ish
Just wondering since I know dealerships have to run through a check list of maintenance approvals before hitting the lot, that being said, I wouldn't trust em with said checklist and competence
blksubykid
Member
Able to check the service history? It’s never a bad thing to change fluid earlier or more frequent especially if you’re putting the vehicle through its paces.
My 2013 is at about 90K and I’m slowly tackling everything on the weekends.
JLofa
New member
Not even sure how to, to be honest
Got a buddy of mine that works on cars, even though not 4r/truck specific, maybe I'll ask him about it too
gonna let you in on a secret
Welcome to Toyota Owners
create an account.. and add the VIN.. if any service was performed at a Toyota dealership.. it'll show up under the service history
JLofa
New member
Have an account already for an existing payment plan so I'll do that and check it out, than you kind sir
my front diff. bolt started stripping and I stopped. Will get at it again when I change the oil in 3k miles. I havent tried it again yet but I did the transfer case and rear diff. very easily. The transmission kinda worries me with someone here messing up. Is the dealer quote for a complete drain of all 11 qts ? and and replace or clean the filter.
Ripper238
Senior Member
Yeah, i am lucky to have a decent dealer I can trust, or at the very least hold responsible. Its a complete transmission drain, ill have to confirm on the filter clean vs replace. Likely replacement.
John in NC
Member
I had the full flush done at 144,000 miles. I was worried but it turned out fine. $210 at Hendrick Toyota Wilmington NC with a coupon. I got no info about a screen vs. filter, some on here said it's just a mesh screen. I bet they just hook it up to the machine and let it rip.
And yes a guy on here tried the drain/ fill on his own and had some issues.
Here: No torque to wheels
And yes a guy on here tried the drain/ fill on his own and had some issues.
Here: No torque to wheels
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lewdog998
New member
My drain and fill worked out ok.
I drained, dropped pan and cleaned the filter (removed) with brake cleaner. That is what my dealer says they do. It cleaned easily and I throughly dried it with low pressure air. Took about 5.5 quarts of the oe ws fluid. About the same as I drained. For some reason I could not get the obd jumper wire diagnostics mode to check temp to work...maybe because its a 20 model. Used temp gun method. No leaks, no slips, all good.
I drained, dropped pan and cleaned the filter (removed) with brake cleaner. That is what my dealer says they do. It cleaned easily and I throughly dried it with low pressure air. Took about 5.5 quarts of the oe ws fluid. About the same as I drained. For some reason I could not get the obd jumper wire diagnostics mode to check temp to work...maybe because its a 20 model. Used temp gun method. No leaks, no slips, all good.
