5th gen Body Mount Chop

[Jono.ful]

I think we're taking separate approaches to the cause of a rollover. certainly a high centre of gravity increases the likelihood of a roll over in some situations, like after a driver takes evasive action, say to avoid a collision. I would suggest that the likelihood of a roll over after many of the collisions you are likely to see on a regular basis is unlikely.
I am certainly not a crash analyst, but most of the rollover test videos I have seen with SUV's take place on a skidpad

this is the situation I am exemplifying when I say 'skill of the driver and their propensity for taking evasive action'. you two seem to be talking about a rollover event after a collision impact. I would think that is a much less common event - which granted, may be made worse by increasing ride height - than the vehicle remaining upright after impact, given that most collisions occur at slower than highway speeds.
The vid that Harper posted is a 40 mph test. now you tell me, is there more risk in this exact circumstance from a 3" lift, or from removing the body mount?

 

[Jono.ful]

...to further my point, there are numerous electronic nannies on our trucks specifically designed to prevent rollovers, which all still function after a suspension lift. to my knowledge, there is nothing to serve as a back up for a chopped body mount.

 

[Kotrin]

Last year I had a guy slow down in front of me as we were merging onto the freeway,versus accelerating to merge onto traffic. I was already in the process of getting over when he slowed down. I hit the rear of him doing 60. It threw me into a spin and 4 consecutive roll overs. Here's an after picture. ..

I still lift mine but I won't do the bmc. I'll deal with the rub as I think I found another substitution.

 

[Jono.ful]

jesus, glad you're ok.

 

[Kotrin]

jesus, glad you're ok.

Thanks. My 4 yr old son and I walked away. I still took him to the er as a precautions but got a clean bill of health. I have interior pictures to, Whenever I share them people are amazed I walked away, don't need a Subaru to live. ..Toyota 4 life.

 

[BlacknTan]

Thanks. My 4 yr old son and I walked away. I still took him to the er as a precautions but got a clean bill of health. I have interior pictures to, Whenever I share them people are amazed I walked away, don't need a Subaru to live. ..Toyota 4 life.

Yikes!!!

Glad to hear everyone was OK!

 

[1engineer]

Question: Who here is going to disable or reduce the effectiveness of their or their passenger airbag? What, nobody? I don't care what you guys do to your trucks as yoi are responsible for yourself. What about your passengers? To the guy who says it's speculation: 780 hs steel. A beam that goes out under the body behind the tire and does not support anything on the far end. A dumbass can figure that out.

 

[RockyMountainT4R]

Da** Kotrin, glad you and your child are o.k.

A little soapboxing: We can't control what others do on the road. We can make choices that help us to survive their decisions. You chose a fun vehicle that also offered you and your family some substantial protection.

Some people care about their children, others, judging by their actions, not so much. Example: We live in a part of the Rockies where it seems everyone has at least one 4WD vehicle, mostly Jeeps. We're former JK (pentastar) owners so this especially bothers us: We're driving at the limit on highway in my Trail and we see people haulin' past us in their lifted JK Wranglers with their doors and top off carrying 2 or 3 kids, blissfully weaving in and out of traffic, everyone laughing it up, and I think... There is a difference between paranoid and negligence.

 

[wfo9]

Question: Who here is going to disable or reduce the effectiveness of their or their passenger airbag? What, nobody? I don't care what you guys do to your trucks as yoi are responsible for yourself. What about your passengers? To the guy who says it's speculation: 780 hs steel. A beam that goes out under the body behind the tire and does not support anything on the far end. A dumbass can figure that out.

It is pure speculation on what the actual impact of a BMC is. Please show me your safety study or some simulations to back it up. I don't doubt they put it there for a reason, but I do question what cutting off 3 inches of it on one side yields in the real world.

I'm not saying it will not have some negative effect, but we just don't know. There are too many variables at play. The reality is that any change is going to have impact. Running larger tires with greater offset.. will have more impact than 3" of steel.. What about sliders, that could cause good or bad results. We have no way to know without a simulation. See my point?

Now raising the center of gravity or adding weight up top, that is well understood. My point is you can worry yourself all day or you can take reasonable precautions and not be a stick in the mud.

I really have no reason to defend...Like you said, I can do whatever I want and I feel 100% confident in my choices from many years of practical experience in Motorsports. I just don't like to see people using scare/bully/shock tactics...

 

[lmturne1]

OP, Where did you get the kit?

 

[JSparky]

OP, Where did you get the kit?

It wasn't a kit, the fabricator formed the new plates specific to the cuts at the time of install. I'm on my second 5th gen and used Relentless body mount chop plates/kit this time around.. they work but the custom formed ones look better and are higher clearance. Nothing against the quality of Relentless. I think Metaltech and maybe Allpro sell plate "kits" as well but you'd have to check, I must have gotten Relentless cause they were a better price at the time.

 

[lmturne1]

It wasn't a kit, the fabricator formed the new plates specific to the cuts at the time of install. I'm on my second 5th gen and used Relentless body mount chop plates/kit this time around.. they work but the custom formed ones look better and are higher clearance. Nothing against the quality of Relentless. I think Metaltech and maybe Allpro sell plate "kits" as well but you'd have to check, I must have gotten Relentless cause they were a better price at the time.

Thanks for the quick reply! I appreciate the info.

 

[JSparky]

Thanks for the quick reply! I appreciate the info.

No problem, here's a shot of the Relentless plates.

 

[lmturne1]

[MENTION=96425]JSparky[/MENTION] Seems like with the BMC, you will gain lateral articulation clearance, but from that angle, the vertical articulation is hindered by other objects. This makes me question the feasibility of having sufficient up travel with a larger tire such as a 34"...

 

[Signal]

So I am looking into this for tires I am planning on getting in the future. The mount gets chopped off and a new plate goes on there the let the bigger tires move and not rub or hit? Right?

 

[MaddoxPics]

So I am looking into this for tires I am planning on getting in the future. The mount gets chopped off and a new plate goes on there the let the bigger tires move and not rub or hit? Right?

Yes, depending on the tire size. The standard body mount is good for most tires up to 34", after that, from my understanding, you need and even more aggressive body mount chop, but at that point it's probably that least of your worries with other things that need cut/trimmed.

 

[mrblah]

So I am looking into this for tires I am planning on getting in the future. The mount gets chopped off and a new plate goes on there the let the bigger tires move and not rub or hit? Right?

yup, no more rubbing on the body mount.

 

[Signal]

I am looking at doing 305/70/17's I am looking at the Ridge grapplers and the WRANGLER MT/R WITH KEVLAR. There is sand and mud down here on the beach so I am not concerned with snow and ice.

 

[eccentricGTSdvr]

anybody in the NE Florida who can do a BMC?

 

[mrblah]

anybody in the NE Florida who can do a BMC?

any offroad shop should be competent enough to do it. The question is how much they will charge you.