5th Gen braking and soft suspension

Sheesh! We've had our '15 TE since April and I've never noticed the dip when braking. Maybe I'm just so happy that my Toyota isn't in the shop as much as my Dodge was, that I'm overlooking some things.

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So my wife bought a 2015 SR5 Premium all on her own a few months back. I love the looks, have always wanted a 4 runner. I recently drove it a few times and this thing drives terrible, not even as good as her 2012 Highlander.

Of course it doesn't drive as good as a Highlander. A Highlander is a tall car. A 4Runner is a body-on-frame, solid-rear-axle truck with a soft, long travel suspension. And it drives like one.
 
Do i take this think back and make them changes the shocks/struts out or what?

Change them to what? All the dealer would do, if you paid him, would be to replace the OEM shocks and struts with new OEM shocks and struts that would ride just the same.

There are a lot of options to lift and change shocks and struts, but they are aftermarket and usually involve a lift.
 
I will agree with you that the braking does have a different feel from other vehicles I've owned. Sometimes it feels like you have to continually ramp up the pressure on the brake pedal to come to a smooth stop, or else you end up having to brake hard at the end and it's not too comfortable (even my friends have commented on this). In my old car you could apply constant pressure and maybe an extra nudge when you were about to make a complete stop. I've also noticed ever since I got my truck I'll be pulling up to a 4 way stop and someone who has already stopped and has the right of way will hesitate an extra second or two, like I'm not going to stop in time and ride into the intersection. I used to drive a manual tranny sedan, so I'm sure some of it has to do with my driving style from years in a lighter car with a stick, but it happens a lot and I actually find it humorous that people look at me like I wasn't planning on stopping.
 
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FWIW - I have fox 2.5's up front and the nose dive is pretty much the same as it was before. I can't tell if there's any meaningful difference. Handles much better on the rough stuff, but I don't know that I could tell the difference in heavy breaking. I've never thought it was any different from any other truck or BOF suv i've had.

Cornering is a lot better with KDSS. But it's too late to add that now. So the aftermarket might help more in that respect.
 
You should have bought a Limited. The nose dive is mostly eliminated with the xreas suspension. I can not say I notice anymore pedal travel than another vehicle I have driven.

Have kinda wondered about this - have read about nose dive but have not noticed on my LE.



Brakes are a little different but aren't they all - I adjusted to them after driving about twice.

If I wanted a car, I wouldn't have sold my car and bought a T4R. I got so I didn't want to drive my car anymore and always drove my '09 Equator RMZ4 (a Nissan Frontier Pro4x for those not familiar with Equator). However, I must say the jury is still out on which I like driving best now - the Equator or the T4R. This is not to disparage the T4R, because I really like it but haven't driven it much yet.
 
I like the brakes on this thing, my last car the brakes were so touchy, just a little pressing would have that thing screeching, could not stand it. I do not feel there is anything unusual about the brakes.

The nose dive thing is different than any other car I owned, it does not bother me, and I knew about it from reading on here and doing the test drive.

The 4r is so damn nice, I really would have to be nitpicking to find fault with it.
 
I noticed the nose dive and braking when test driving. Thought I can live with it and traded in my Tacoma with bilstein 5100. After driving through traffic with constant braking, I missed my Tacoma. Then I went and lifted my 4runner, nose dive is about 90% gone or same as my Tacoma, so at least get bilstein 5100 if you're on a budget. It'll help!
 

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