5th Gen Fire Department Emergency Light Systems

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As a volunteer Firefighter in OH I need to have 360 degree white and red flashing lights and siren on my vehicle to respond to my fire station "Code 3" For the past 20 years I have done everything from the magnetized gumdrop to the full LED bars with directional arrows and everything in between on everything from beater cars to lease trucks and even a classic '78 Bronco with triple bubbles like from Emergency (the only light bar I still have, actually).

Now that I am a grown-up and awaiting delivery of my 2017 Cement TRD Pro I am trying to decide how to integrate Scene lights, Emergency lights and Trail lights into one solid package.

I do have a GOBI rack that is under production, only six years or so to wait on that to deliver haha, that I plan to place the larger Red and Whites across the front, then run a string of tiny single red/whites between the top and bottom stealth rails to complete the 360 around (not 100% around, but in all directions ya know). I just want to have two simple switches set up, one for emergency with all flashing, and the other for scene lights with only the whites that should illuminate all the way around the truck. I would also not mind tucking some strobes into the otherwise useless hood scoop just for the kid in me to still smile about, maybe even with the KIT car look for those special occasions!

Thinking ahead though... I may want a switch to run only reds too while in camp at night that will preserve my night vision...hmm, I won't get ahead of myself here.

Anyway, I spent a good chunk of time looking and found nothing on the 5th gen side and only two other threads, one 5 years old and the other 10 years that have not seen activity since.

Are there any First Responders out there who have set up their 5th gens with something other than a dash light that can share pics or videos and/or advice on what it will be like getting into the process of wiring up the system. The '78 Bronco was easy but I really fear I will need to pay a certified uber smart technician to add electrical components to this rig, but I hope I am wrong.
 
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I would imagine the rough design/concept would be similar to the Yukons/Tahoes I've seen Fire Chiefs running. Though most of those vehicles don't usually have roof racks still installed.
 
For your small lights, maybe consider a rock light set (1 ea white and red) for simplicity/cost savings?

Try this for wiring. Although maybe [MENTION=65614]Antman[/MENTION] can check me on this as he probably understands more wiring than I do.

Wire all your negatives to negative as normal. Wire all your white led positive together, and all your red led positive together. Wire strobe module (Something like this) using one channel for each color. Then tap in a separate positive feed through a relay controlled by a toggle switch to each positive side bypassing the strobe module. This will give you one switch constant on for each white and red, plus the strobe module. Please excuse the poor diagram, I'm certainly no electrical engineer.
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Sorry, I won't be of any help here. Oklahoma Law prohibits first responders from having lights/sirens on their personal vehicles.
 
Sorry, I won't be of any help here. Oklahoma Law prohibits first responders from having lights/sirens on their personal vehicles.

Even a blue light to get to the fire station? When I was on our local dept here in Eastern Iowa, they gave us a permit for a blue light to put in our personal vehicle to respond to the station in an expedited manor. WE could not respond to a scene in our personal vehicles. Some more rural departments do require their personnel to keep their bunker gear with them in case they would have to respond to a scene in their personal vehicles.
 
Look into a SwitchPro for switching. Each circuit can do constant on or strobe or flash. It’s not cheap but a great time saver.


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Look into a SwitchPro for switching. Each circuit can do constant on or strobe or flash. It’s not cheap but a great time saver.


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[MENTION=168138]KEWW Pro[/MENTION] +1 for the switch-pros. I just finished installing mine that I bought on a group buy last fall (there's another one going on currently here -> http://www.toyota-4runner.org/group-buys/239924-**switchpros-group-buy**.html

With all the lights you plan on using- having the switch pro module takes all the thinking out of it, and you won't have to run separate relays for each light. you have dedicated switches for up to 8 accessories and also the ability to strobe and pulse from the panel vs. regular on/off on the Spod. Another great feature is the bluetooth connection via the app- you can be outside your vehicle and control all your lights which is a big plus.

I mounted my panel on the coin holder in the center console. Just need to label the panel and it's all done [emoji106]


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Even a blue light to get to the fire station? When I was on our local dept here in Eastern Iowa, they gave us a permit for a blue light to put in our personal vehicle to respond to the station in an expedited manor. WE could not respond to a scene in our personal vehicles. Some more rural departments do require their personnel to keep their bunker gear with them in case they would have to respond to a scene in their personal vehicles.

Nope, not even.....
 
Thank you all...
[MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION] I actually drive one of those Chiefs vehicles, Suburban type, on my full time gig and we have the strobes blocking the window space and the light bar on top all run with a Code 3 handled controller Code 3 PSE H2Covert Hand-Held Siren/Light Controller - 3599L5 from SWPS.com

It is very convenient, and I was leaning that way for the brains of the system but the Switch Pros that a few have mentioned looks real slick, and with a GB discount the price may come down to compare. I will be getting the Specs off the SP-8100 and taking them to my local emergency lighting shop to compare notes against the Code 3.

Yes, we have a local emergency lighting shop, but as with any specialty shop one must pay exorbitant rates, and their first born child, to get the total package. I am trying to avoid that part of the deal and take care of the parts buying, deciding what to put where and installation, and let them sort out the technical details of ensuring I don't burn up the system...or truck. The less time in the shop the better and I'd rather not have them reinvent the wheel with a truck style they never saw before. Educated buyers make smarter decisions and all that jazz.
[MENTION=144206]N.Alvarez[/MENTION] thanks for the picture, That looks really clean placed there, and I really like the idea of the wireless programing feature. With the Group Buy not officially starting till 7/10 that will give me time to get to the shop and make a good judgement call.

Thanks again everyone, I will obviously post pictures through the build process and maybe figure out how to drop in a video when the lights are doing their thing!
 
Nope, not even.....

And I do understand OK's laws. Many years back our department had a LODD (Line Of Duty Death) while a member was responding to the station, and plenty of other accidents since then. If the State law were not in place our city would have pulled the volly's lights back then but it still stands. This is why there are still specialty shops around that serve the LEO community as well as the fire service. Our mandate is to respond "with due regard to the law" which translates to 'keep it between the lines and don't hit anybody' to the 19 year old probie, as well as to us veterans when there is smoke on the horizon or a call for an infant in distress comes in. There may come a day when all lights are pulled but for now, in Ohio, I have a beautiful 2017 Cement Pro inbound that needs to look the part as well as act it so just like drooling over everyone's build threads I am still looking for the 5th gen Fire Department Truck Light Porn Pictures and Videos to inspire me!!!
 
And I do understand OK's laws. Many years back our department had a LODD (Line Of Duty Death) while a member was responding to the station, and plenty of other accidents since then. If the State law were not in place our city would have pulled the volly's lights back then but it still stands. This is why there are still specialty shops around that serve the LEO community as well as the fire service. Our mandate is to respond "with due regard to the law" which translates to 'keep it between the lines and don't hit anybody' to the 19 year old probie, as well as to us veterans when there is smoke on the horizon or a call for an infant in distress comes in. There may come a day when all lights are pulled but for now, in Ohio, I have a beautiful 2017 Cement Pro inbound that needs to look the part as well as act it so just like drooling over everyone's build threads I am still looking for the 5th gen Fire Department Truck Light Porn Pictures and Videos to inspire me!!!

Now... Im not saying that mine would not be lit up like a Christmas Tree.. Because it would be. BUT, blinky flashys and wee woos definitely have their place. There is a reason that the EMS agency I work for full time no longer runs lights and sirens to every call. We haven't for over 3 years now.

I can see them being especially dangerous on a POV though. The public is not looking for a 4runner. When they hear the siren they are going to start trying to focus in on a police car, ambulance, or fire truck, and they won't see a 4Runner. Just like how drivers dont see motorcycles because they aren't looking for a motorcycle.
 
So I stopped in to the local shop today with my lighting plan and based on my wants/needs (yes, I want the KITT lights in the scoop and they said it was cool and I would be cooler for doing it... so that will happen!) the Code 3 Covert system will push it all. At ~$260, and it includes the siren box controls too, it is kind of a no brainer now. Attached is a pic of the controller hanging in our suburban so the mount is not all too obtrusive. Some users don't even mount it and just tuck it into the glove box when not using it. And the schematic sketch.

When the rack arrives I will mount all of the lights and have the wires strung to where the box will be to save on install pricing and just need them to ensure the box is plugged in appropriately so as to not burn it down.

I will post pictures...and video if I can figure that out, when the time comes. thanks for the help so far.

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Your insurance company doesn't care that you're using your personal rig for emergency calls?

Nope, Ohio, so for us to run light/siren to the firehouse first our vehicles must be inspected by the State Highway Patrol, specifically for emergency use and second when responding from home we are at that point working for the city and insurance would fall to their coverage.

Either way, lights and siren do not give us permission to jet across the city at Mach III. We are authorized to drive "within due regard for the law" (typically +10mph, so 45 in a 35) and are "asking permission" from other drivers to move over to let us safely pass.

The louder the siren and brighter the lights... well... that is just a cross between making sure people hear our request and in-house Fire Department bragging rights ;-)
 
Nope, Ohio, so for us to run light/siren to the firehouse first our vehicles must be inspected by the State Highway Patrol, specifically for emergency use and second when responding from home we are at that point working for the city and insurance would fall to their coverage.

Either way, lights and siren do not give us permission to jet across the city at Mach III. We are authorized to drive "within due regard for the law" (typically +10mph, so 45 in a 35) and are "asking permission" from other drivers to move over to let us safely pass.

The louder the siren and brighter the lights... well... that is just a cross between making sure people hear our request and in-house Fire Department bragging rights ;-)


Has the city had to cover anyone's personal rig, yet?
 

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