5th Gen Oil Recommendation? New Owner!

[Hammer0313]

Hello everyone new 2019 TRD Owner; i’ve been surfing around the site the last few days but didn’t see a really good engine oil Thread. I’m new to Toyotas and know nothing about them other than being a reliable Rig. If you could tell me what oil you use, how many miles on your oil change, What oil weight you recommend and how you use your rig? In addition to the oil I’m interested in the oil filters options out there, i’ve never use an oil filter like this before but would like to use a full synthetic spun micro glass oil filter if possible. If you could share your experiences and recommendations I’d be grateful.
I’m really enjoying the site and really enjoying my new 4-Runner. Cheers:girl:

 

[CavPro]

i’ve been surfing around the site the last few days but didn’t see a really good engine oil Thread.

That's because they are like unicorns.

You haven't looked good enough.

 

[Redsoxx1918]

No need to research. Stick to Toyota oil and filter at the Toyota recommended weight, at the Toyota recommended interval. If you’re looking for advice from random people on a forum, make sure you get their qualifications and find out why they are more knowledgeable than Toyota engineers.


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[flyrv9]

There is a thread by Antman in the mods, writeups sticky that has all you need to know about changing oil including part #s of filter etc. Basically OW20 synthetic and OEM filter cartridge is recommended. Filter cartridges and the housing removal tool are available on Amazon. Interval is in the owners manual . Some members are using a shorter interval if they drive in harsh conditions.

Also, some members report broken skid plate bolts when oil change was done by the dealer. Solution is to remove plate ahead of time and using anti-seize on the bolts before installing. I'm using Mobile1 OW20 FWIW.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

Hello everyone new 2019 TRD Owner; i’ve been surfing around the site the last few days but didn’t see a really good engine oil Thread.

You obviously spent little or no time looking.

 

[mrblah]

can't go wrong with oem toyota and mobile 1

 

[TEujunga]

Toyota engineers don't know what they're doing. I know what's best for my truck. Thicker is always better, so I use 90W gear lube in the engine, axle grease in the transfer case and diffs, and roofing tar in the slip yokes and U-joints. Booyah. /s

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Bought mine brand new. First oil change at 2K, 2nd oil change at 5k, every 5k after that. I have used Mobil 1, Valvoline, and Toyota 0-20 always using OEM filters. Engine runs smoothest and quietest with Toyota oil so that is what I will be sticking with.

 

[GripT4R]

It really does not matter, its a 4x4 minivan for men with a v6. Put whatever you like or whatever you can afford. Its not a high performance engine.

As long as there is oil in it, it will be fine.

 

[sandcrawler]

It’s almost like you didn’t bother to read me...

:rtfm:

 

[Charlievee]

Everyone knows that if you don't use certified toyota, certified oil, your truck will explode.

 

[83Mule]

Oil attracts dirt.......you don't want dirt IN your engine. Water cleans dirt, and only comes in one Grade so you are good.

 

[Hammer0313]

Thanks for all the positive posts, I really appreciate it. Still learning how to use this forum. Coming from HD trucks the Toyota is all new to me, so Learning a new rig is exciting, but takes time.

 

[Hammer0313]

Bought mine brand new. First oil change at 2K, 2nd oil change at 5k, every 5k after that. I have used Mobil 1, Valvoline, and Toyota 0-20 always using OEM filters. Engine runs smoothest and quietest with Toyota oil so that is what I will be sticking with.

Is this the Toyota oil you use? Genuine Toyota Synthetic SAE 0W-20 API SN

If it is, it looks amazing on paper, look at that Moly. Check out molybdenum basics: Moly Basics

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Is this the Toyota oil you use? Genuine Toyota Synthetic SAE 0W-20 API SN

If it is, it looks amazing on paper, look at that Moly. Check out molybdenum basics: Moly Basics

Yes and that's why it runs so much quieter and smoother. These engines need the Moly for whatever reason. Compare Toyota oil to Mobil 1 or Valvoline, Toyota is far superior. Toyota oil is actually made by Mobil but to Toyota spec. Nothing off the shelf has the same packages as the Toyota oil does. IMO Mobil 1 is living off past reputation, kinda like Fram filters. It's not what it used to be.

 

[Hammer0313]

Yes and that's why it runs so much quieter and smoother. These engines need the Moly for whatever reason. Compare Toyota oil to Mobil 1 or Valvoline, Toyota is far superior. Toyota oil is actually made by Mobil but to Toyota spec. Nothing off the shelf has the same packages as the Toyota oil does. IMO Mobil 1 is living off past reputation, kinda like Fram filters. It's not what it used to be.

Yep, Toyota is doing something Very special with that oil spec, looks fantastic. I’m torn between Toyota and Amsoil right now, only got 900 miles on my rig now so I have a few weeks to decide. Doing something similar as you, dumping factory fill at 2-3k then every 5k after that. I’ll be posting my UOA’s here for reference.
You ever read the Rat Blog? > MOTOR OIL ENGINEERING TEST DATA | 540 RAT - Tech Facts, NOT Myths

A lot of people say the guy is full of it but I learned a lot about oil in general. I have mixed feelings about it but it’s loaded with other good information.

 

[catrains]

Is this the Toyota oil you use? Genuine Toyota Synthetic SAE 0W-20 API SN

If it is, it looks amazing on paper, look at that Moly. Check out molybdenum basics: Moly Basics

I have used mobil1 engine oil since 2000. have had no engine issues. replace oil 5K-10K mile range. oil looks great when changing not dark and no sludge.removal of the toyota filter cart looks clean no metal particles .

your toyota oil test indicates a load of moly and mag .. mobil 1 only has less then 100PPM ..

Toyota oil probably will cause the engine to be quieter because of the mag and moly additives .

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Yep, Toyota is doing something Very special with that oil spec, looks fantastic. I’m torn between Toyota and Amsoil right now, only got 900 miles on my rig now so I have a few weeks to decide. Doing something similar as you, dumping factory fill at 2-3k then every 5k after that. I’ll be posting my UOA’s here for reference.
You ever read the Rat Blog? > MOTOR OIL ENGINEERING TEST DATA | 540 RAT - Tech Facts, NOT Myths

A lot of people say the guy is full of it but I learned a lot about oil in general. I have mixed feelings about it but it’s loaded with other good information.

I haven't but I will look into it. Do yourself a favor and ditch the OEM plastic oil filter housing at your first oil change. Replace it with an OEM aluminum housing.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BHP68A/?coliid=I3AT8UZ2Z6QLU4&colid=3QQ5Q8P4H7GJ6&psc=1

 

[Hammer0313]

I haven't but I will look into it. Do yourself a favor and ditch the OEM plastic oil filter housing at your first oil change. Replace it with an OEM aluminum housing.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BHP68A/?coliid=I3AT8UZ2Z6QLU4&colid=3QQ5Q8P4H7GJ6&psc=1

I just seen that on Antman’s oil thread; how is the figment and quality? If it’s good to go I’m in!

 

[DougR]

I had no issues with fitment and quality of the Amazon metal oil filter cap. I like the Motiv MX2320 tool. I made a set of solid wood ramps out of 6x6 with a 2x6 screwed onto the side. I cut a long incline of at least 16 inches to make it easy to drive up and attached a 4x4 at the opposite end to keep from driving off.

I did not trim the tabs on the skid plate as described in Antman's thread. I bent the outermost 1/4 inch to make it easy to reinstall the plate. If oil changes have been done by someone else, check the skid plate bolts for stretch, galling, cross-threading, etc. Chase threads using a tap and replace bolts if necessary. Use anti seize and do not over torque.

Use inexpensive and genuine Toyota oil filters. The end seals are molded and difficult to indent with a thumbnail, so I wondered how it might conform and seal. I put a clean filter on a surface plate and measured filter height at 4 locations with a caliper. All readings were within 0.0005 inches. I measured a used filter and all readings were within 0.0005 inches. Just for kicks, I went to an auto parts store with a hand calipers and performed the same measurements on 3 name brand filters. I would never use any of them because none of them matched or exceeded 0.0005 inches variation in height. One of them differed as much as 0.012 inches.

I recommend using genuine Toyota oil plug seals. I choose not buy what is advertised to be genuine seals on Amazon.

Use a torque wrench if you haven't "calibrated" your arm and hand by experience.