5th Gen Pelfreybilt Rear Bumper Install Help

[rlarroque]

Hello!

I know some of you might want to dump your anger at me for getting one of these or for whatever other reason. I am one of the guys BAMF helped out and yes I also got screwed over by the Pelfrey Bankruptcy. If you could not shit on me that would be greatly appreciated, I'm just looking for a little help.

I know there were others that walked away with the swing out bumper, did any of you end up with the install guide? BAMF said there was for sure one document, if you have it is there any way you can scan it and send it over my way?

Thanks in advance!
Rico

 

[mrblah]

Hello!

I know some of you might want to dump your anger at me for getting one of these or for whatever other reason. I am one of the guys BAMF helped out and yes I also got screwed over by the Pelfrey Bankruptcy. If you could not shit on me that would be greatly appreciated, I'm just looking for a little help.

I know there were others that walked away with the swing out bumper, did any of you end up with the install guide? BAMF said there was for sure one document, if you have it is there any way you can scan it and send it over my way?

Thanks in advance!
Rico

Since there is like only 4 in the wild, you might be out of luck

 

[97BlackAckCL]

Beware, trolls are coming :madgrin:

 

[Xtremluck]

Hello!

I know some of you might want to dump your anger at me for getting one of these or for whatever other reason. I am one of the guys BAMF helped out and yes I also got screwed over by the Pelfrey Bankruptcy. If you could not shit on me that would be greatly appreciated, I'm just looking for a little help.

I know there were others that walked away with the swing out bumper, did any of you end up with the install guide? BAMF said there was for sure one document, if you have it is there any way you can scan it and send it over my way?

Thanks in advance!
Rico

I don't think there are any full bumpers with swing outs out in the wild besides Lawndart's. The only other Pelfreybilt bumper I've seen is on a rig is in Oregon and it was the base bumper that used to be mounted on Satin's company rig.

Do you have all the components and hardware? The base bumper most likely attaches similarly to how other bumpers attach to the frame and rear crossmember. Perhaps you can use other manufacturer's instructions as guidance.

 

[sn_85]

I don't think there are any full bumpers with swing outs out in the wild besides Lawndart's. The only other Pelfreybilt bumper I've seen is on a rig is in Oregon and it was the base bumper that used to be mounted on Satin's company rig.

Do you have all the components and hardware? The base bumper most likely attaches similarly to how other bumpers attach to the frame and rear crossmember. Perhaps you can use other manufacturer's instructions as guidance.

I believe there is one other dual swing out Pelfrey rear bumper in the wild. I think it's on a blue or black 4R from Cali. Seen it on IG but can't remember his handle exactly. Hopefully they'll pop up on my feed and maybe they can be a resource for the OP.

 

[samwhich]

I mean honestly the install portion shouldn't be a huge deal since its a full replacement, the only thing that would make it tough is having the correct hardware, nuts and bolts obviously and any mending/support brackets. It can get a bit more complex if they were using riv or stick nuts as well.

 

[Jesse1983]

you could PM [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION] and see if he gets back to you

 

[Bonyfattony]

If you give me a day, i will send you over a scanned copy of the installation instructions. Send me a pm with your email.

I am also one of the guys that BAMF helped out. I preordered the swingout rear bumper July of 2017 and i was ~4th in line to receive it after Lawndart and TeamFieldcraft but was hosed in the bankruptcy.

When i went to the fire sale at Pelfreybilt, I saw my rear bumper packed and ready to ship. BAMF took care of me and i was able to bring it home.

 

[rayofsi]

I don't think there are any full bumpers with swing outs out in the wild besides Lawndart's. The only other Pelfreybilt bumper I've seen is on a rig is in Oregon and it was the base bumper that used to be mounted on Satin's company rig.

Do you have all the components and hardware? The base bumper most likely attaches similarly to how other bumpers attach to the frame and rear crossmember. Perhaps you can use other manufacturer's instructions as guidance.

i have a base bumper. was easy to install, no instructions needed.

 

[rlarroque]

If you give me a day, i will send you over a scanned copy of the installation instructions. Send me a pm with your email.

I am also one of the guys that BAMF helped out. I preordered the swingout rear bumper July of 2017 and i was ~4th in line to receive it after Lawndart and TeamFieldcraft but was hosed in the bankruptcy.

When i went to the fire sale at Pelfreybilt, I saw my rear bumper packed and ready to ship. BAMF took care of me and i was able to bring it home.

Yah same thing my bumpers had my name on it waiting for me to come in for install. Did you get all of your parts? Jerry mentioned that the spindle stuff was missing and he was going to contact a machine shop about creating them. I'll PM you my email. I just want to go through and make sure I'm not missing any other parts. But what it seemed like Evan mentioned it was all there except for that.

Thanks for the help!

 

[rlarroque]

you could PM [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION] and see if he gets back to you

We chatted through IG he doesn't have one since his is the one the guide was based off of. He did give me a heads up on a couple of things for the install which was awesome of him to do.

 

[rlarroque]

I mean honestly the install portion shouldn't be a huge deal since its a full replacement, the only thing that would make it tough is having the correct hardware, nuts and bolts obviously and any mending/support brackets. It can get a bit more complex if they were using riv or stick nuts as well.

I have almost all of it. I'm missing some of the spindle assembly stuff and BAMF is going to help get that all situated. I just need a guide to make sure I'm not missing anything else.

 

[rlarroque]

I don't think there are any full bumpers with swing outs out in the wild besides Lawndart's. The only other Pelfreybilt bumper I've seen is on a rig is in Oregon and it was the base bumper that used to be mounted on Satin's company rig.

Do you have all the components and hardware? The base bumper most likely attaches similarly to how other bumpers attach to the frame and rear crossmember. Perhaps you can use other manufacturer's instructions as guidance.

It's more so I can make sure I have all of the parts. I have most of it, but Jerry from BAMF mentioned there was some stuff they couldn't find in the warehouse and wanted me to double check that I wasn't missing anything else.

 

[Bonyfattony]

We are all missing that part. It is what holds the swing out in place. You can install the rear bumper without it. However I was told by Evan, former installer of Pelfreybilt, that it is easier to install the swing outs with the bumper off. He said before they closed, they ordered 100 of the pucks and should have it but it is a matter of finding them or producing them.

Yah same thing my bumpers had my name on it waiting for me to come in for install. Did you get all of your parts? Jerry mentioned that the spindle stuff was missing and he was going to contact a machine shop about creating them. I'll PM you my email. I just want to go through and make sure I'm not missing any other parts. But what it seemed like Evan mentioned it was all there except for that.

Thanks for the help!

 

[ChrisJHarney]

It's more so I can make sure I have all of the parts. I have most of it, but Jerry from BAMF mentioned there was some stuff they couldn't find in the warehouse and wanted me to double check that I wasn't missing anything else.

Just finished installing my swing arms this past weekend. It was a bear only in the sense that it takes A LOT of adjusting heights and clearances as you start adding weight to the arms. I do have the instructions, a full set, and I’ll be happy to send you scanned copies when I get home tonight if you don’t get what you need by then. I spent a good 2 hours yesterday doing the final adjustments and can also send you pics of how much I had to shim between the bumper and frame to give you an idea. So far though the thing is rock solid, absolutely no movement of the tire going through dips and over speed bumps. I’m going out to Anza this weekend to test it though so hopefully it holds up.......as spare parts are going to be hard to come by. I’m also missing a few parts, called up Jason on Sunday as the guys were wrapping up and said he’s ship out to me, so that’s good. I wish I knew they were down there Saturday as I would have driven down to pick up the parts I needed, I’m just rarely on here and only heard about the sell off through a friend. Oh well. Shoot me a PM if you need anything, I’d be happy to walk you through any of the steps.

 

[ChrisJHarney]

We are all missing that part. It is what holds the swing out in place. You can install the rear bumper without it. However I was told by Evan, former installer of Pelfreybilt, that it is easier to install the swing outs with the bumper off. He said before they closed, they ordered 100 of the pucks and should have it but it is a matter of finding them or producing them.

Absolutely correct. After doing it, I would have to say it would be damn near impossible to install the arms with the bumper on, I can’t even fathom how you would torque down the spindle bolts with the bumper on. Glad to hear they are going to machine new spindle supports, I would like another set when they do. They are aluminum pieces, and as strong as I rationally know aluminum is, there is just so much dynamic weight being asked to support from (4) bolts, it would just be nice to have a second set just in case, especially since they are custom built.

 

[rlarroque]

Absolutely correct. After doing it, I would have to say it would be damn near impossible to install the arms with the bumper on, I can’t even fathom how you would torque down the spindle bolts with the bumper on. Glad to hear they are going to machine new spindle supports, I would like another set when they do. They are aluminum pieces, and as strong as I rationally know aluminum is, there is just so much dynamic weight being asked to support from (4) bolts, it would just be nice to have a second set just in case, especially since they are custom built.

Yah for sure Lawndart mentioned that we should ask to see if he can make them out of steel for that reason.

I'm also missing the actual spindle unless it's already on the bumper. I haven't had a chance to unwrap anything. Which is why I'm looking for the guide to confirm what I have and don't have.

 

[ChrisJHarney]

Yah for sure Lawndart mentioned that we should ask to see if he can make them out of steel for that reason.

I'm also missing the actual spindle unless it's already on the bumper. I haven't had a chance to unwrap anything. Which is why I'm looking for the guide to confirm what I have and don't have.

So the spindle is actually 4 separate pieces. The spindle bearing carrier is made up of two machined aluminum pieces that attach the swing arms to the bumper via 4 bolts each (what you are missing). These two pieces bolt together to form the complete spindle. Inside the spindle there are 2 tapered roller bearings that need to be greased and inserted into the inner swing arm pivot. Then there are 2 machined aluminum center spindle spacers that have O rings to essentially seal in the bearings that slide into the spindle housing before you bolt each one into the swing arm. I will send you a scanned copy of the instructions along with the parts lists I took pictures of before I opened all the bags.

I actually received a Tacoma latch instead of the 4Runner one which I’m hoping Jerry can swap out for me. I was also missing a machined Delrin slide piece for the latch and a license plate light kit. The latch I would consider the only priority.

 

[NoOneBetter]

did you guys get the reinforcement support brackets? Dont remember seeing this in the set of parts I got but I also haven't unwrapped everything yet.

[MENTION=152816]rlarroque[/MENTION] emailed you a scanned set of the instructions.

 

[rlarroque]

did you guys get the reinforcement support brackets? Dont remember seeing this in the set of parts I got but I also haven't unwrapped everything yet.

[MENTION=152816]rlarroque[/MENTION] emailed you a scanned set of the instructions.

DM'd you on IG with an image of them. Evan handed them to me separately they weren't wrapped up in the bumper.