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cj80cruiser

cj80cruiser

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First I wanted to say glad to be a part of this forum.

I just bought a 4runner yesterday and of course the first thing I want to do is lift it. I've sold 4 pairs of LC coils to 4runner owners in the past but now I'm looking for some myself. So here's my question. I'm stock everything right now. I will have a tube rear and front bumper along with sliders. Winch may come later but I can swap out front springs or add spacer to compensate. I will be running 285's and stock wheels but I want it fairly level. So this is what I'm looking at:

1st) How much lift do I have to have for the front to clear 285s on stock wheels and backspacing? By clear I mean flexing also

2nd) How many wraps do I need on the Landcruiser springs to get the back level with the front? I'd rather it be a little stinkbug if anything but level is preferred.

For now I may use spacers or OME to lift the front 3"s or however tall you guys say I need. If I can get away with less lift then by all means let me know. I'm not wanting to cut out wheel wells by the way.
 
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I'm running the 9-wrap coils in the back with the OME 882 in the front and it's got a great stance.



If you go with something lighter than 882's, I'd say stick with the 8-wrap. Stay away from the 7-wrap coils and try not to use spacers if at all possible.
 
ya i agree with LINY on staying away from the spacers and 7 wrap coils... I would say to take a look what u want the 4runner to be overall and that should give us a better understanding of wat u want for the lift. Like if u want only a lift with no armored bumper up front the ride will be harsh with 883s or 882s compared to 881s. Same goes for the rear.
 
xskydivingdudex said:
ya i agree with LINY on staying away from the spacers and 7 wrap coils... I would say to take a look what u want the 4runner to be overall and that should give us a better understanding of wat u want for the lift. Like if u want only a lift with no armored bumper up front the ride will be harsh with 883s or 882s compared to 881s. Same goes for the rear.
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Btw, thanks for referring me to this site!! I am eventually going to get coilovers but was just looking to do spacers for the time being. As far as the front goes....like I was saying I'm going with tube...trying to stay as light as possible.

My short term goal is getting it ready for June of 11 so I can take the truck through the Colorado mountains on many of the trails there including black bear pass.
 
One thing I learned about OME is that, atleast on Landcruisers, they tend to make the springs taller to compensate for extra weight. Like say for instance the 882's designed for 150lbs of additional weight will actually be taller than the 883's designed for 100. If you put that 150lbs or 100lbs on the front like they are designed for then it will be a 3" lift. Is that the general consensus on 4runners too?
 
cj80cruiser said:
One thing I learned about OME is that, atleast on Landcruisers, they tend to make the springs taller to compensate for extra weight. Like say for instance the 882's designed for 150lbs of additional weight will actually be taller than the 883's designed for 100. If you put that 150lbs or 100lbs on the front like they are designed for then it will be a 3" lift. Is that the general consensus on 4runners too?
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For the most part, that's the general consensus. My 883s (w/ an ARB bumper) lifted mine ~2.5-3". It depends on what year of 3rd gen also since different years came with different lengths of factory coils.

In other words, it lifted my '97 ~3", but if I had a '99, it would've been ~2". An '02 sits an inch or so lower than all other years from the factory so it would get lifted like 3-3.5".

You won't sit level with any LC coils in the rear. Even the 7 wraps will lift the rear more than the front can handle without blowing CVs. I personaly like a little rake though.
 
brian2sun said:
For the most part, that's the general consensus. My 883s (w/ an ARB bumper) lifted mine ~2.5-3". It depends on what year of 3rd gen also since different years came with different lengths of factory coils.

In other words, it lifted my '97 ~3", but if I had a '99, it would've been ~2". An '02 sits an inch or so lower than all other years from the factory so it would get lifted like 3-3.5".

You won't sit level with any LC coils in the rear. Even the 7 wraps will lift the rear more than the front can handle without blowing CVs. I personaly like a little rake though.
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This kinda throws a wrench in my next question. I was going to ask if 285's would fit on my stock 96 suspension. Just for highway/street usuage at this time. Lift to come very soon.
 
cj80cruiser said:
This kinda throws a wrench in my next question. I was going to ask if 285's would fit on my stock 96 suspension. Just for highway/street usuage at this time. Lift to come very soon.
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On road they will still rub a lot around corners, speed bumps, etc.. without trimming/pounding the fenders a lot. This may be tolerable, but it would annoy the crap outta me. If you're just doing it foe a week or 2 that's ok, but if you plan on driving it like that for months before you get the lift I would not do that personally.
 
brian2sun said:
On road they will still rub a lot around corners, speed bumps, etc.. without trimming/pounding the fenders a lot. This may be tolerable, but it would annoy the crap outta me. If you're just doing it foe a week or 2 that's ok, but if you plan on driving it like that for months before you get the lift I would not do that personally.
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If it's going to be that bad then I will just wait till I can lift it.

So I called the local dealership and used my local clubs discount to see what LC 80 series OEM rear shocks would cost. I was given two different part #s

1). 4853169266 rear aluminum wheels $28.25 ea.

2). 4853169256 rear non-aluminum wheels $30.10 ea.

I got the front prices and part #s too but I'm assuming the rear LC shocks are the ones recommended to use right?

After reading more threads I think I may be out of luck with the stock LC shocks. I was thinking you could use the shocks straight off the LC 80 series but I'm getting that they need to be revalved.
 
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I believe Tokico Trekkmasters, ProComps (not sure of which model), and Bilsteins are some more options for use with the LC coils. Maybe someone who's running one of those can comment as to what part # you'd want.
 
brian2sun said:
I believe Tokico Trekkmasters, ProComps (not sure of which model), and Bilsteins are some more options for use with the LC coils. Maybe someone who's running one of those can comment as to what part # you'd want.
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind running some procraps. cheap is what I'm looking for now. Also would be nice if someone could state for sure or not if the 80 series OE rear shocks are a definite no go with stock valving
 
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cj80cruiser said:
Yeah, I wouldn't mind running some procraps. cheap is what I'm looking for now. Also would be nice if someone could state for sure or not if the 80 series OE rear shocks are a definite no go with stock valving
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Procraps are definitely cheap and they work well enough with LC 9 wraps...

es9000 make sure to get the lifted application ones, not sure of the part #, have to look it up...

cost what 40$ each?
 
Duhockey said:
Procraps are definitely cheap and they work well enough with LC 9 wraps...

es9000 make sure to get the lifted application ones, not sure of the part #, have to look it up...

cost what 40$ each?
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The stock valved rear landcruiser shocks are only $30 each. I'm just not sure they would work...probably be too stiff since the 80 is so heavy
 
cj80cruiser said:
The stock valved rear landcruiser shocks are only $30 each. I'm just not sure they would work...probably be too stiff since the 80 is so heavy
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I think the front ones work though on the back of the 4runner, I know Oleg from Irbisoffroad does those set ups using LC coils and shocks so the fronts will prob work
 
you want the front LC 80 coils for the rear of your Runner. I have 97 fronts on the rear and love them. they are 8 wraps. As for shocks I am running LC Shocks Part Number 48531-69417 and I love them especially if your are going to be running a heavy tire and wheel combo. I have 315x70R17 Muds and they work and drive great. Just slightly stiffer than stock but that could be because my stock shocks were trashed when I got my Runner. Also you can run 285's on stock suspension if you are willing to clearance your wheel wells and front bumper a little. Here is a great article on how to do it. I didn't cut and weld but hammered and no one not laying under the truck could tell except for some clearancing on the front bumper. Took an afternoon and was well worth it.

Clearance for 35-inch Tires on a Tacoma at ANY Lift Height | Trails Less Traveled

Good luck

Sam


cj80cruiser said:
If it's going to be that bad then I will just wait till I can lift it.

So I called the local dealership and used my local clubs discount to see what LC 80 series OEM rear shocks would cost. I was given two different part #s

1). 4853169266 rear aluminum wheels $28.25 ea.

2). 4853169256 rear non-aluminum wheels $30.10 ea.

I got the front prices and part #s too but I'm assuming the rear LC shocks are the ones recommended to use right?

After reading more threads I think I may be out of luck with the stock LC shocks. I was thinking you could use the shocks straight off the LC 80 series but I'm getting that they need to be revalved.
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Rockdawg84 said:
you want the front LC 80 coils for the rear of your Runner. I have 97 fronts on the rear and love them. they are 8 wraps. As for shocks I am running LC Shocks Part Number 48531-69417 and I love them especially if your are going to be running a heavy tire and wheel combo. I have 315x70R17 Muds and they work and drive great. Just slightly stiffer than stock but that could be because my stock shocks were trashed when I got my Runner. Also you can run 285's on stock suspension if you are willing to clearance your wheel wells and front bumper a little. Here is a great article on how to do it. I didn't cut and weld but hammered and no one not laying under the truck could tell except for some clearancing on the front bumper. Took an afternoon and was well worth it.

Clearance for 35-inch Tires on a Tacoma at ANY Lift Height | Trails Less Traveled

Good luck

Sam
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I haven't looked at that link yet but I was sizing up the 4runner today and saw that the most obvious places I would rub were the steps, rear mud guard, and front bumper on the fender flare piece. I'll check this thread out because I might have to clearance more than I thought from just eyeball'n it today.
 
Duhockey said:
I think the front ones work though on the back of the 4runner, I know Oleg from Irbisoffroad does those set ups using LC coils and shocks so the fronts will prob work
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I'm pretty sure that even thought the coils are from the front of the LC, that we're supposed to use REAR SHOCKS from the LC in the rear of our Runners...
 
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