A lot of 1st time posters lately...

At least were not the 5th gen section. They're getting battered by brand new SUV/bof owners. I see the same question asked 4times one the front page everyday almost over there. I'm greatful our new guys usually aren't completely ignorant.....usually.
 
Wrong answer. It's a reference to My Cousin Vinny.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNZ1O2KTOOg

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You cant possibly know what I was referencing and steal my thunder! But my apologies for forgetting that line hahah

HA HA HA. No, that's the guys who are just showing off, or maybe compensating for some other inferiority.

Those PRO guys get reemed so much in the 5th gen section, because every other member refers to them as BROS. .
 
Another Newb here. Tons of good info here. Me and my wife are split over the cornfed 2/3" leveling kit or the 3" toytec. Thoughts anyone? How do these things ride with a small lift?
 
Another Newb here. Tons of good info here. Me and my wife are split over the cornfed 2/3" leveling kit or the 3" toytec. Thoughts anyone? How do these things ride with a small lift?

Toytec = more than a "small lift", cornfed spacers = harsher ride IMO. I love my lift, used Bilstein 5100's w/ FJ coils and 1.5" rear spacers all for $80, got lucky. Even at the price of new, I feel this is a great start.
 
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Toytec more than a "small lift", cornfed spacers = harsher ride IMO. I love my lift, used Bilstein 5100's w/ FJ coils all for $80, got lucky. Even at the price of new, I feel this is a great start.

5100's w/ FJ coils and 3" toytec here too. Very happy with it.
 
Toytec = more than a "small lift", cornfed spacers = harsher ride IMO. I love my lift, used Bilstein 5100's w/ FJ coils and 1.5" rear spacers all for $80, got lucky. Even at the price of new, I feel this is a great start.


The 3"toyotec was just spacers as I remember. $240. Too much? We picked up some wheels and tires. What would be a good fit for some 265/70r17?
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Hard truly to just say "Toytec 3" Lift" without specifying as they make several variations. 3" coilovers, 3" front spacer rear springs, 3" spacers all around, but easy I agree $240 is steep for just spacers.
 
Another NewB!

New to the forum and new to a 4Runner (had an '88 LC), and I have some questions that are going to be annoying as hell to many of you veterans, but here it goes anyway!
I bought the '15 Limited, and I got the LT because I broke my back, had a spinal fusion and wanted my day to day ride to be as comfortable as possible. Also, my wife and I are planning a month long, 5,000 mile road trip this fall, and we thought the LT would make more sense for that. I also like some of the amenities on the LT. Now the questions:

I know the 20" tires are not the best for off-road, but are they totally useless? Can I do some beginner type trails without much concern? What are the downfalls of 20" tires?

Also, if/when I get a second set of wheel and tires, how does one choose between 16" and 17"? Is there an advantage/disadvantage to either?

Can anyone recommend any books or videos that give the basics for a new offroader? I've spent most of my life on offroad motorcycles, and have done a lot of adventure motorcycling on my BMW GS's, but I have very little experience in a 4x4.

Thanks to all for your advice, I suspect I'm going to need it!:fear:
 
Hey there W84Dirt! Welcome! (though I'm hardly veteran enough for that hold much weight). Congrats on the new LT!

I'll try my best to answer the questions you posted, but it might make more sense to post a new introduction thread, and a couple of photos of your rig - with some of your questions, as I'm not sure many people will read this deep on a separate discussion.

A) 20in wheels aren't anathema to wheeling - but they are certainly less common. A few guys on the forums really like them, and use them off road - however I would suggest the majority prefer 17in. The wheels themselves are quite a bit lighter than 20's (all things considered equal) - which is important not only for unsprung weight for fast wheeling, but for decreasing the moment of inertia when hammering on / off on difficult or intermittently grabby terrain. The increased rotating mass of a 20in puts more strain on the driveline (when it stops quickly / grabs terrain in a jolt etc.), and of course that leads to more breaks / wear (cv axles / diffs). If you can find a 20in wheel / tire combo that is lighter than a 17in wheel / tire combo with the same grip etc. for your intended purpose - then the above is of course not true - however, many would suggest that finding such a combo would be quite difficult.

B) 17in wheels are for the above, and maybe a few other considerations much more common, as are the availability of tires at local tire shops. 16in wheels are ok as well, but limit your choices in braking. If you are crawling, then you might not need as much brake bite (and if that is your gig, then wilwood makes an incredible lightweight setup that looks like it is off a mountain bike), but for everything else - (again, all things equal) - a larger diameter rotor performs better. Better brake cooling which leads to less fade, more surface area which leads to larger pads, which leads to lower pressure on the pad / hydraulic lines etc. for the same amount of stopping power. Higher pressure means higher heat, and heat is the enemy of brake performance unless you are into some truly exotic materials.

17in is a nice balance of the considerations in A and B, but obviously - there are reasons to go either way. some guys go full retard and get tiny wheels with huge tires and sidewalls - others go the opposite way for huge brakes (see the new fully carbon fibre wheels on the mustang gt350.... yum yum).

As to your last point - there are a few great places on the net for reading, but there really is no substitute for experience. Best bet would be to find a few people locally (which is pretty easy - very friendly crew coast to coast) - and go wheeling. The locals will know the spots for newbies :)
 

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