Advice Toyo AT2 Purchase P or LT
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WXman
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I don't see where that tire in that size is offered in a LT version.
The P rated version is heavy. Listed at 44 lbs. Ouch. I think most ATs in that size are 38-40 lbs.
I'd go with the Cooper AT3. It's got slightly more open circumferential grooves for slightly better mud and snow traction, it's lighter, and it's cheaper, and there are tons of rebates on them right now.
The P rated version is heavy. Listed at 44 lbs. Ouch. I think most ATs in that size are 38-40 lbs.
I'd go with the Cooper AT3. It's got slightly more open circumferential grooves for slightly better mud and snow traction, it's lighter, and it's cheaper, and there are tons of rebates on them right now.
Sputnik
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I just bought these tires in the p version for my 5th gen in 265/70/r17 flavor.
I love em! They looks 100 times better then my previous Bridgestone duellers.
Toyo and Michelin can't be beat IMO.
I would go with p version unless you have a lot of extra weight on your truck, because toyo tires have sidewalls that like to sag a little it almost looks like...
I love em! They looks 100 times better then my previous Bridgestone duellers.
Toyo and Michelin can't be beat IMO.
I would go with p version unless you have a lot of extra weight on your truck, because toyo tires have sidewalls that like to sag a little it almost looks like...
KingPrat
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Yeah, the Cooper in the 18" is 41 vs. 44 with the Toyo.
You'll probably find a better deal on the Cooper currently. They have an $80 or $100 rebate deal going on, I think through sometime in October.
I personally will be going with the Toyo when I need to do them. Better treadlife warranty, lighter at the 265/65/17 than most (don't want Firestone), etc.
JB.
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From your description, get the P version.
I didn't know they offered and LT version in that size, but if they do the difference is minimal. They could make both versions with one as an OEM for some car manufacturer. The p-metric tire will be a standard load tire which means it will have a max air pressure of 35psi. The LT will have an extra nylon body ply that will bump it up to 50psi. Obviously it will make the LT a little heavier and slightly and I mean very slightly more durable. The extra layer of nylon will add the puncture resistance of a t-shirt. Granted it could make the difference between a flat or not, it isn't likely to add much more protection.
The big difference from a marketing stand point is the tread warranty (which is typically meaningless in the big picture anyway). The P-metrics have 65K manufacturer warranty and the LTs have a 50K warranty. Good luck ever getting more than a few dollars out of any tread wear warranty.
Realistically you could put an LT on one side and a P on the other and drive forever and not notice a difference. Go with which ever gives you peace of mind.
The big difference from a marketing stand point is the tread warranty (which is typically meaningless in the big picture anyway). The P-metrics have 65K manufacturer warranty and the LTs have a 50K warranty. Good luck ever getting more than a few dollars out of any tread wear warranty.
Realistically you could put an LT on one side and a P on the other and drive forever and not notice a difference. Go with which ever gives you peace of mind.
JB.
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The 50psi version is known as load C. There are two other LT load ranges (D, E) with max psi of 65 and 80. The load E could be as much as 12-14lbs heavier than the P version.
Might not notice a difference mixing Ps and LTs, but it would be there. Would be especially pronounced in an emergency handling situation. Not a good idea.
S p a r k y
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I am in the same boat, however different sizes. The LT does offer some more shoulder design depth and 2/32 more tread depth. Personally and I have seen both, the LT does look more aggressive and better. I am looking at the 285/70/17. P is 48lb, and the white wall LT is 50.5lb. white wall opposite side is black so I am good there. My 4runner isn't my DD, so i am going LT i believe.
undertheradar
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Sputnik how do the AT2s ride compared the stock tires that came on the vehicle?
NOVA46
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Both seem like they are great ways to go I will just be happy to get rid of my Toyo H/T and get something with some capabilities OFF and on road.
Get all 4 LT in a C load. Can't go wrong.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=70
MarcusAurelius
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Cooper AT/3's are impossible to beat in the snow, I just bought four new before our record breaking snowfall in Boston this year. Never had to shovel out my spot once. Great tire for the price.
Just to make your decision that much harder, Ill throw another similar alternative in the mix. Hankook DynaPro ATM. I just put mine on in November and have about 5k miles on them. We got plenty of snow this winter in VA and I also never once had to shovel. They dont maintain the roads here well at all and they always got me where I needed to go without ever making me nervous out there. 14 inches of heavy slippery wet snow and pleeeenty of ice. Im very happy with them considering I only spent ~630 on them OTD.
Edit: They also take on the thick Virginia mud/clay like a champ
Edit: They also take on the thick Virginia mud/clay like a champ
