Almost heartbroken nobody is interested in my 4Runner...

[Jeremiah James]

Hey guys, I have been listing my 4Runner on Craigslist for a little over a month,
When I first made an add I left the mileage off the ad and the phone rang off the hook.
Of course their first question was- "how many miles"

So I added the mileage and phone has not rang once...

In honest opinion, what should I expect to get for for it?

Link here-
2000 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 w/ Diff Lock LOADED DVD summer ready CLEAN!!!! - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

 

[vipergrhd]

That is a very nice ride you have for something with that many miles, my take on it would be around $5k just because of the mileage and not knowing the unknown like how much longer will the trans. last or what if HG blew. I have a 99 which currently got 345k but the engine replaced at 235k when I bought it I dumped money in it to make ride and be safe on the road. Just hang in there and someone will buy it a used car salesman used to say There is an ass for every seat.

 

[thegipper]

That is a very nice ride you have for something with that many miles, my take on it would be around $5k just because of the mileage and not knowing the unknown like how much longer will the trans. last or what if HG blew. I have a 99 which currently got 345k but the engine replaced at 235k when I bought it I dumped money in it to make ride and be safe on the road. Just hang in there and someone will buy it a used car salesman used to say There is an ass for every seat.

Pretty much what he said. Your price is probably just a little too high for that many miles. Don't get me wrong, your truck looks great but with that many miles the engine/tranny could go at any moment. Or, it may last another 200k miles but for 7k, most people won't want to take that gamble.

Good luck either way!

 

[AntleredRuin]

I'd also take the picture of the Lexus off.
For the average person flipping through the pictures, having a different car listed all of a sudden just looks weird. That'd be a red flag for a scammer for many.

 

[MarkR85]

I agree with what the others have said. It's a beautiful truck for the mileage, but people on Craigslist aren't your target audience. I don't think anyone in the valley is prepared to spend 7k on anything with that kind of mileage. You're probably better off posting in the FS sections on various 4Runner forums.
(Also, I'll wave the next time I see you on Moorpark. I'm the Stellar Blue (purple) 4Runner with the black trim (and soon to have the retro plates that read IV RUNNA)

 

[AZBub]

Hey guys, I have been listing my 4Runner on Craigslist for a little over a month,

When I first made an add I left the mileage off the ad and the phone rang off the hook.

Of course their first question was- "how many miles"



So I added the mileage and phone has not rang once...



In honest opinion, what should I expect to get for for it?



Link here-

2000 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 w/ Diff Lock LOADED DVD summer ready CLEAN!!!! - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

Why are you spamming a sale ad here for a truck that’s waaay above KBB? Why is there a Lexus in the ad? [MENTION=5653]admin[/MENTION]


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[Jeremiah James]

I'd also take the picture of the Lexus off.
For the average person flipping through the pictures, having a different car listed all of a sudden just looks weird. That'd be a red flag for a scammer for many.

The pic of the GX is just to show that I really did replace the 4Runner with one.

 

[Jeremiah James]

Why are you spamming a sale ad here for a truck that’s waaay above KBB? Why is there a Lexus in the ad? [MENTION=5653]admin[/MENTION]


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The mods don't need a cadet

 

[OrRunner]

Helluva nice looking truck, I wouldn't personally hesitate on it, but I can see why people would be scared of the mileage. I would definitely want an extensive test drive and inspection, but it looks worth the money to me.

 

[AntleredRuin]

The pic of the GX is just to show that I really did replace the 4Runner with one.

I understand that, but buyer won't care. That just looks weird. People don't read descriptions until they flip through pictures. Having the pics not match up makes it look like you made a mistake or are trying to scam or something. Hell, I thought you made a mistake.

For that same reason, I'd keep only pictures with 1 set of tires/wheels. I didn't know that you were selling both until that afterthought mention at the bottom of your post. I thought it was a mistake.
OR take some pictures with a sign depicting the difference.
"Included in the purchase price is one set of on-road, shown here, and one set of off-road, shown here".
Mentioning them as an afterthought at the end of your post doesn't help you any.



Unfortunately, you probably can't really expect any money back for the mods you did. We all know that 4Runners last a long time, but for most, a stereo upgrade on a 325k car is just lipstick on a pig. That almost falls under basic maintenance at that age (which you can't charge for)

I'd downplay (or remove entirely) the 110v adapter, and take out the mention of the rear window switch. People are hesitant (for good reason) of older cars and trucks that have had electrical hackwork done to them. No one wants to buy an old car and then have to correct all the PO's mistakes. (not saying you made any mistakes, but that's the mindset. For all they know, they'd be spending $7k on one giant electrical gremlin)

Don't mention the original cat. Everyone know that cats are expensive, and at 325k, it really is a ticking time bomb.

Just my opinion, but also don't mention the fluids. I know you're saying that 'you take care of it', but that just looks like a red flag to many. When people say they change the fluids in order to sell, it implies that they didn't change them regularly before. Means that the person didn't take care of the car. No one is going to turn down a car purchase just because they might have to do an oil change soon after.

If the timing belt has been done recently, DO mention that. That's $600+ that the buyer could put off for a while.
DO mention if you have a basic maintenance log.
DO mention if you used 4wd at least once a month; these transfer cases don't like long periods of un-use, and it can cause them to freeze up.



Overall, I'd still say drop the price to $6k and go from there.

 

[eddielasvegas]

Here's my 2 cents and you know what they say, advice is usually worth what you pay for it.

I would simplify your ad. Way too much info for the average buyer. Reading through it makes my head hurt and I love T4R's. Highlight the important items like maintenance, clean carfax and 3RD Gen's legendary reliability.

At those miles, and even with LR, something can fail tomorrow and be very expensive to fix. You need to price your car with that in mind. $7 grand is high and viper's number is on the right track.

Good luck,

Eddie

 

[TCMach]

Why are you spamming a sale ad here for a truck that’s waaay above KBB? Why is there a Lexus in the ad? [MENTION=5653]admin[/MENTION]

Nice contribution to the thread. You had time to quote his post but not read the part that contained the question?

I'll echo what [MENTION=129892]AntleredRuin[/MENTION] said. Simplify this listing up. Most people don't care and have no idea what kind of person or mechanic you are so anything beyond standard maintenance can be a red flag. Also in my experience long for sale ads just mean people have something to hide.

Price wise I could see it going for 6-6.5K where I am. How that translates to CA I'm not sure.

 

[spartacus]

My cousin flew out from Jersey and bought a 2002 limited 3rd Gen with almost 200k on it for $5700, because of rust issues out east. Putting it up on Craigslist in the rust belt could be an option.

 

[AntleredRuin]

My cousin flew out from Jersey and bought a 2002 limited 3rd Gen with almost 200k on it for $5700, because of rust issues out east. Putting it up on Craigslist in the rust belt could be an option.

With that, he'd still have to drop the price significantly. He has 125k miles more than the one you mentioned, AND it's listed for $1.3k more.

 

[rightyouareken]

I think it's a simple mileage vs price thing. I paid about the same price for my 1 owner 4Runner with 164k miles with a brand new timing belt and brake job, and I'm in one of the most expensive car markets in the country. I just think your asking price is too high no matter what maintenance you've done to it.

 

[spartacus]

With that, he'd still have to drop the price significantly. He has 125k miles more than the one you mentioned, AND it's listed for $1.3k more.

Asking price and selling price are almost never the same. He would have to go down in price. The seller here in Colorado wanted 7k was offered 5200 intially but eventually settled at that price after some friendly haggling.

 

[Hepar]

Price. $7k for one with over 300k miles is crazy (even if that's your starting price). Also, what's up with the red rear axle?

 

[mtbtim]

Let me give you some perspective. I own (2) 3rd Gens. The first one I bought over 6 years ago. It had 111k and I paid $6300. The second I bought was at the beginning of 2018. It had 130k with a rear locker and I paid $6500.

Do you see where I'm going with this? You are asking crazy money for your rig. Somebody might think it's a good deal, but as you have found out after posting the mileage, that person might be hard to find. Like others have mentioned, when people see that kind of mileage, they are thinking major engine work or an engine replacement is in their near future. Some might not think that's a big deal, but most would. You're first challenged with finding a good replacement engine and then you either have to spend the time to do the swap yourself or pay through the nose to have somebody do it for you.

I think you're a product of seeing people on Craigslist asking way too much for their rigs. You're most likely going to have to come to the realization that you're asking way too much and will have to come down considerably for someone to purchase it from you. My two cents.

 

[Scramble]

That's a $3800 truck here in NY with that mileage. With all of the love you've put into it you should just keep it until it dies unless you want to give it away.

 

[cb1111]

I understand that, but buyer won't care. That just looks weird. People don't read descriptions until they flip through pictures. Having the pics not match up makes it look like you made a mistake or are trying to scam or something. Hell, I thought you made a mistake.

For that same reason, I'd keep only pictures with 1 set of tires/wheels. I didn't know that you were selling both until that afterthought mention at the bottom of your post. I thought it was a mistake.
OR take some pictures with a sign depicting the difference.
"Included in the purchase price is one set of on-road, shown here, and one set of off-road, shown here".
Mentioning them as an afterthought at the end of your post doesn't help you any.



Unfortunately, you probably can't really expect any money back for the mods you did. We all know that 4Runners last a long time, but for most, a stereo upgrade on a 325k car is just lipstick on a pig. That almost falls under basic maintenance at that age (which you can't charge for)

I'd downplay (or remove entirely) the 110v adapter, and take out the mention of the rear window switch. People are hesitant (for good reason) of older cars and trucks that have had electrical hackwork done to them. No one wants to buy an old car and then have to correct all the PO's mistakes. (not saying you made any mistakes, but that's the mindset. For all they know, they'd be spending $7k on one giant electrical gremlin)

Don't mention the original cat. Everyone know that cats are expensive, and at 325k, it really is a ticking time bomb.

Just my opinion, but also don't mention the fluids. I know you're saying that 'you take care of it', but that just looks like a red flag to many. When people say they change the fluids in order to sell, it implies that they didn't change them regularly before. Means that the person didn't take care of the car. No one is going to turn down a car purchase just because they might have to do an oil change soon after.

If the timing belt has been done recently, DO mention that. That's $600+ that the buyer could put off for a while.
DO mention if you have a basic maintenance log.
DO mention if you used 4wd at least once a month; these transfer cases don't like long periods of un-use, and it can cause them to freeze up.



Overall, I'd still say drop the price to $6k and go from there.

Spot on. To say "I hacked into the window switch" brings up visions of electrical tape stuck all over the wiring harness.

I think it is OK to mention that "all fluids have been regularly changed based on the maintenance schedule.

Include better pictures of the interior. Spend a weekend with some leatherique to spiff up the seats. Remove that bent up, filthy trunk liner.

The front bumper looks a different color. Did you have a boo-boo?