Am I being over charged?

Ashtonguyton

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I had to leave my 4runner at good year overnight because my turn signals stopped working and needed all new sockets and I had to get an oil change also. I asked them to take a look at my brakes because I knew it was close to being that time for new ones. The guy said I needed 4 new brake pads and that would cost 600 with labor. Am I being ripped off or is that a fair price. Any help is appreciated.
 
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Is that just installing new pads? Even if they are turning the rotors that is very high. That's $200.00 per wheel! You can buy new OEM pads and rotors for less than that.
 
Is that just installing new pads? Even if they are turning the rotors that is very high. That's $200.00 per wheel! You can buy new OEM pads and rotors for less than that.

yeah thats what i thought, I'm trying to find someone on here in the houston area that i can pay to install them for me and not get ripped off
 
The pads are very simple to replace if you have any mechanical skills. The rotors are very simple as well.
 
I had to leave my 4runner at good year overnight because my turn signals stopped working and needed all new sockets and I had to get an oil change also. I asked them to take a look at my brakes because I knew it was close to being that time for new ones. The guy said I needed 4 new brake pads and that would cost 600 with labor. Am I being ripped off or is that a fair price. Any help is appreciated.

I went to Goodyear recently for an oil change and also got quoted a bit over $600 for brakes. It was new pads, rotors, and flushing/refilling the brake fluid. Bought quality pads and rotors for under $200 (only doing the front, back still has 6mm and wears slower) and am replacing with a friend. If I didn't have someone to help me, I have still gathered that it is way too high. I would buy the parts myself and take it to a good local shop with a decent labor rate.
 
the guy said 600 for 4 new brake pads and flushing out the brake fluid

Well that makes more sense if he's bleeding/flushing the brake lines, but $600 is still insane. I remember when Toyota quoted me $400 to change 6 spark plugs, I laughed as I hung up the phone
 
I went to Goodyear recently for an oil change and also got quoted a bit over $600 for brakes. It was new pads, rotors, and flushing/refilling the brake fluid. Bought quality pads and rotors for under $200 (only doing the front, back still has 6mm and wears slower) and am replacing with a friend. If I didn't have someone to help me, I have still gathered that it is way too high. I would buy the parts myself and take it to a good local shop with a decent labor rate.

Well I messaged a fellow member on here that lives in Houston and he gave me his friends number at an auto shop and they quoted me 425. I might find a break shop for under 300
 
I spent little less than $900 to get all new pads, rotors and the two front calipers replaced. I used all high end OEM parts. OEM makes two sets of pads for the front. I went with the better ones.

Many on here think I spent too much. I think I got a good deal. The dealer wanted $1100 and that did not include the calipers. I paid my son $250 to do the work which is included in the $900 total.

It took him a while and it wasn't real easy, but definitely not hard either. He was glad it needed new calipers. Actually made it less work to replace them than to reinstall the old ones. They were around $90 each.

I ordered all my parts from Daytona Beach Toyota. I wanted all OEM, but I know there are cheaper ones that are also good. I really like the way it brakes since having this done. I had no idea they were as bad as they were. I would go all OEM again if I had it to do over. Less risk.
 
Oh yeah. Unless you have over 200k on the vechicle I think flushing the brake fluid is a waste of money. Maybe even if it has over 200k. Just a way for shops to make money. Just my opinion, but shared by the mechanic I was going to use.
 
I spent little less than $900 to get all new pads, rotors and the two front calipers replaced. I used all high end OEM parts. OEM makes two sets of pads for the front. I went with the better ones.

Many on here think I spent too much. I think I got a good deal. The dealer wanted $1100 and that did not include the calipers. I paid my son $250 to do the work which is included in the $900 total.

It took him a while and it wasn't real easy, but definitely not hard either. He was glad it needed new calipers. Actually made it less work to replace them than to reinstall the old ones. They were around $90 each.

I ordered all my parts from Daytona Beach Toyota. I wanted all OEM, but I know there are cheaper ones that are also good. I really like the way it brakes since having this done. I had no idea they were as bad as they were. I would go all OEM again if I had it to do over. Less risk.

What do you mean by high end oem? Which parts did you get?
 
the guy said 600 for 4 new brake pads and flushing out the brake fluid

I paid less than $300 on Amazon to buy four new Centric Premium rotors and Akebono pads all around. I did the work myself, which wasn't difficult, and my brakes have worked perfectly ever since, i.e. no squealing, squeaking, or vibration.
 
What do you mean by high end oem? Which parts did you get?

The cheaper pads are known as economy OEM pads or AZ pads. They also don't need the shims, sold separately.

I got the higher end pads and had to buy a set of shims also.

All the parts at the local dealerships were $689. I got everything from Daytona Toyota for $475 delivered to my door.
 
I had to leave my 4runner at good year overnight because my turn signals stopped working and needed all new sockets and I had to get an oil change also. I asked them to take a look at my brakes because I knew it was close to being that time for new ones. The guy said I needed 4 new brake pads and that would cost 600 with labor. Am I being ripped off or is that a fair price. Any help is appreciated.

Ripped the flip off, big time! If you can remove your tires you can do it yourself.
 
Oh yeah. Unless you have over 200k on the vechicle I think flushing the brake fluid is a waste of money. Maybe even if it has over 200k. Just a way for shops to make money. Just my opinion, but shared by the mechanic I was going to use.

You'll say that until the day you press your brake pedal and it goes to the floor because your brake fluid absorbed too much water and that boiled. Yes, I had that happen on a car with 70k miles.

Many mechanics I know say to flush the brake system every 50k.
 
You'll say that until the day you press your brake pedal and it goes to the floor because your brake fluid absorbed too much water and that boiled. Yes, I had that happen on a car with 70k miles.

Many mechanics I know say to flush the brake system every 50k.

I'm 65 years old and been driving since I was about 14. I have put over 200k miles on several cars and guess how many times I've changed my brake fluid? Once, and I'm not sure I needed to that time.

I've never had a brake failure due to bad brake fluid.

If I have a mechanic tell me I should change my brake fluid every 50K, I would find a new mechanic.
 
I'm 65 years old and been driving since I was about 14. I have put over 200k miles on several cars and guess how many times I've changed my brake fluid? Once, and I'm not sure I needed to that time.

I've never had a brake failure due to bad brake fluid.

If I have a mechanic tell me I should change my brake fluid every 50K, I would find a new mechanic.

You can't argue with science, Brake Fluid is Hygroscopic (which means it absorbs water, even out of the atmosphere, which has water vapor.) You can argue the simple "I didn't die, so its okay" excuse, but that's no different than a drunkard saying "I didn't get into an accident before when I was tanked, so I'm good to drink and drive."

While most modern braking systems will probably not experience brake fluid boiling, you have ABS Solenoid Packs and other systems in modern vehicles that will not like that extra moisture in the fluid. Almost every automotive training institution be it Toyota, GM, Wyotech, ect. all teach the same thing about brake fluid; it absorbs water, becomes contaminated, and can cause damage to the braking system and should be regularly serviced (some say 2yr/24k, others say 3yr/30k) So either everyone is conspiring against you, or there's a reason everyone is wasting their time trying to teach people to repair vehicles the proper way.

I'm sorry if I sound a bit rude/cynical; I'm not trying to attack you directly. But times change, technology improves, knowledge improves, ect. Thirty some odd years ago it was okay for people to throw Asbestos Dust around, because it "didn't hurt nothing" and no one knew better. A couple decades ago you could throw whatever engine oil you wanted in a vehicle and it wouldn't screw up the cylinder deactivation, or mess with the VVTi system, and/or cause any other myriad of issues that could potentially result in catastrophic engine failure.

My point is that while sure you've gotten away with not taking proper care of your vehicle like many other people in the world, it doesn't make it the right thing; nor does it mean that skipping maintenance is okay. There's a reason everyone goes through the trouble of teaching and learning how to work on vehicles; its not to take money out of your wallet, its because you can't just pop some spark plugs in a car, clean the points, and tweak the carburetor with your trusty screwdriver and call it a "tune-up" anymore. For better or for worse, automotive technology has become far more complicated a field and as such, so has the technology and knowledge needed to repair these vehicles. Which also means having to teach customers what taking care of your vehicle entitles and why things like using the correct coolant, transmission fluid, engine oil, and other parts are critical to maintaining your vehicle properly.

~ASE Website link going mildly into depth about importance of regular maintenance:
https://www.ase.com/News-Events/Publications/Car-Care-Articles/Protect-Your-Auto-Investment.aspx

Post Note-

In regards to the pricing for the brake service, you need to keep in mind that you are also paying for labor as well. This is typically broken down as a flat rate, most shops in our area seem to have the same flat rate quote for brakes. For example at our dealership it would be broken down as such:

-Front Axle Brake Service (Replace Pads, Clean/Lube Hardware, Surface Rotors) [2.0hrs for non-floating axle]
-Rear Axle Brake Service (Replace Pads, Clean/Lube Hardware, Surface Rotors, Adjust Parking Brake) [2.0hrs for non-floating axle]
-Brake Fluid Flush Service (with DOT3 Brake Fluid per vehicle specifications) [.8hrs]

So whatever the shops labor rate is, there's at least 4.8hrs of work being billed out. I'm just pointing this out because, while you can do the work yourself; you are going to a shop who has to pay overhead, the technicians, waste fees, ect. so the labor costs do factor into why its only $120 for the pads and $480 for the labor (these numbers are just for example.)
 
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