am i lifted ?

[3bears]

so I have only owned this t4r for 6 weeks and all the work I have done to it, it looks stock to me
ive looked hard and it has Toyota shocks ( tokiao or however it is spelled) and my rear coils are lime green and blue stripe on them
however
im running 265/75/16's and I keep reading posts on threads of people with that size tire and rubbing issues I don't have rubbing issues, even though I have the saggin waggin thing going on and now 153k miles
I about to order new springs and shocks but now im wondering
I don't really want to lift, that's not me, I was gonna order stock yota springs and kyb gas shocks, but im wondering.....is it right or will I put it all on and sit lower and rub my tires like others are saying

wish I knew more people near by with t4r's but I live and work in the middle of no-place....clear lake resort oregon
hard for me to judge my truck against or to "stock"
when I don't see hardly any around
the majority of what I see are foresters, outbacks, and cherokees

 

[Stereoguy]

My 98 came factory with 265's. No rubbing at all. If it's lifted you would know. Mine is lifted 2" and it's very noticable.

Stock with 265's

Lifted 2"

 

[the great him]

post a pic of your rig from the side.

but my guess is no you are not lifted. i ran 285s with minimal rubbing and stock height. however if you are planning on replacing your springs and you dont what to lift may i ask why? and if i can offer a bit of advice on the replacement of springs, you will spend almost twice as much on springs and shocks if you go with toyota OE stuff over say Old Man Emu. OME makes a 1" lift for these, and you get all new springs and shocks for around $8-900 where going to toyota will cost you about $14-1800. and going with cheap aftermarket autozone or other budget brand ie monroe etc will have you replacing again in a couple of years.

plus the OMEs offer a much increased load carrying capacity -always nice for those back country trips/adventures!

 

[zumogo]

You can get tall springs for the rear. I think they are for the 2002 4runner and get billstein shocks/struts. Which are what Toyota puts in the taco. You won't have sagging rear

 

[3bears]

My 98 came factory with 265's. No rubbing at all. If it's lifted you would know. Mine is lifted 2" and it's very noticable.

Stock with 265's

Lifted 2"

looking at your 2 inch lift, then I am not lifted

 

[the great him]

You can get tall springs for the rear. I think they are for the 2002 4runner and get billstein shocks/struts. Which are what Toyota puts in the taco. You won't have sagging rear

2002 springs will be the shortest springs you can get. they will probably lower you truck from even the sagged height

 

[3bears]

post a pic of your rig from the side.

but my guess is no you are not lifted. i ran 285s with minimal rubbing and stock height. however if you are planning on replacing your springs and you dont what to lift may i ask why? and if i can offer a bit of advice on the replacement of springs, you will spend almost twice as much on springs and shocks if you go with toyota OE stuff over say Old Man Emu. OME makes a 1" lift for these, and you get all new springs and shocks for around $8-900 where going to toyota will cost you about $14-1800. and going with cheap aftermarket autozone or other budget brand ie monroe etc will have you replacing again in a couple of years.

plus the OMEs offer a much increased load carrying capacity -always nice for those back country trips/adventures!

unless I looked at things all wrong, using stock Toyota springs form camel back and kyb shocks from flea bay, im into it at about 650

 

[the great him]

Then you are getting a hell of a deal on springs, and go that route just don't buy aftermarket unless they are from like OME or other quality makers

 

[Scramble]

You can get tall springs for the rear. I think they are for the 2002 4runner and get billstein shocks/struts. Which are what Toyota puts in the taco. You won't have sagging rear

Those are the shortest springs.

OP - Buy 4 springs for a 1999 4Runner, they were the tallest & ride great.

 

[the great him]

Those are the shortest springs.

OP - Buy 4 springs for a 1999 4Runner, they were the tallest & ride great.

not all 99s had the tall springs. there are about 4 different springs for each year... and you have to know the part numbers for the springs to get the correct springs, the toyota parts system is listed by part number, not application...

so you have different springs that came on 2wd and 4wds, you have different springs that came on limiteds and base and sr5s etc(trim levels, and you had different springs if it had a tow package... but you cant go into a dealer and tell them i have a 98 sr5 and i want the 99 highlander springs. the parts guy will look up the 99 and see like 40+ different part numbers. you will need the VIN off of a 99 highlander to make sure you get those springs, and even then you might not get them because some part numbers will have been superseded to a newer part number that may or may not be the tall springs. -and it wasnt just 99 highlanders that got the springs, some sr5s got the tall springs too. but all highlander edition 4runners in 99 and 00 got the tall springs after that it was like what ever toyota had on the shelf they used(not an uncommon practice for toyota -gearing can be this way and sometimes even the VIN plate can be wrong). its a common missconseption that the 99s sat the highest, because a 99 limited will be shorter than a 2000 sr5. while 1999 saw the highest available offered hight overall not all of the 99s sat at this height, and today buying those exact replacement springs would be almost impossible to get. -the paint code is the only way to tell for sure if they are a true tall spring, and today toyota is not paint coding the same as they were back then so that wont work either.

 

[Scramble]

not all 99s had the tall springs. there are about 4 different springs for each year... and you have to know the part numbers for the springs to get the correct springs, the toyota parts system is listed by part number, not application...

so you have different springs that came on 2wd and 4wds, you have different springs that came on limiteds and base and sr5s etc(trim levels, and you had different springs if it had a tow package... but you cant go into a dealer and tell them i have a 98 sr5 and i want the 99 highlander springs. the parts guy will look up the 99 and see like 40+ different part numbers. you will need the VIN off of a 99 highlander to make sure you get those springs, and even then you might not get them because some part numbers will have been superseded to a newer part number that may or may not be the tall springs. -and it wasnt just 99 highlanders that got the springs, some sr5s got the tall springs too. but all highlander edition 4runners in 99 and 00 got the tall springs after that it was like what ever toyota had on the shelf they used(not an uncommon practice for toyota -gearing can be this way and sometimes even the VIN plate can be wrong). its a common missconseption that the 99s sat the highest, because a 99 limited will be shorter than a 2000 sr5. while 1999 saw the highest available offered hight overall not all of the 99s sat at this height, and today buying those exact replacement springs would be almost impossible to get. -the paint code is the only way to tell for sure if they are a true tall spring, and today toyota is not paint coding the same as they were back then so that wont work either.

That's interesting. My 99 Base model came with tall springs. Thanks for the info.

 

[jeremyc74]

The part number for the '99 tall springs is 48231-35210.

OP, that's what I'm running, so you can see a couple of shots of it in my garage. I still have the running boards on mine, which makes it look a little shorter than it is.

 

[3bears]

that's the same part number for my 2000

 

[3bears]

Then you are getting a hell of a deal on springs, and go that route just don't buy aftermarket unless they are from like OME or other quality makers

85 each rear and 91 each front from Toyota and 196 for the kyb gas adjust on all corners from flea bay
all include shipping
that comes in at less than 600

 

[TheDurk]

Tall springs:
Part Numbers:
Front right 48131-35400 L=368mm
Front left 48131-35350 L=374mm
Rears ( same for both ) 48231-35210

Color Codes:
Fronts: Blue/Pink(left) & Blue/Yellow (right)
Rears: Green/Red

The green on the rears fades to a sickly greenish yellow over time.

Basically, any 4wd '99 equipped from the factory with 16" rims got the tall springs.

 

[AZBub]

You can get some dirt cheap, barely used FJ or 5th gen 4Runner rear springs on Craigslist if you keep searching. Net about a 1.5" lift for a lot cheaper than 99 talls. Just an idea.

 

[3bears]

Tall springs:
Part Numbers:
Front right 48131-35400 L=368mm
Front left 48131-35350 L=374mm
Rears ( same for both ) 48231-35210

Color Codes:
Fronts: Blue/Pink(left) & Blue/Yellow (right)
Rears: Green/Red

The green on the rears fades to a sickly greenish yellow over time.

Basically, any 4wd '99 equipped from the factory with 16" rims got the tall springs.

that's the same numbers as my stock 2000

 

[the great him]

Tall springs:
Part Numbers:
Front right 48131-35400 L=368mm
Front left 48131-35350 L=374mm
Rears ( same for both ) 48231-35210

Color Codes:
Fronts: Blue/Pink(left) & Blue/Yellow (right)
Rears: Green/Red

The green on the rears fades to a sickly greenish yellow over time.

Basically, any 4wd '99 equipped from the factory with 16" rims got the tall springs.

that's the same numbers as my stock 2000

hence what i was saying about probably most of the springs have been superseded to a single common part number. in which case id bet 99.9% chance that they are not the Tall springs.

 

[3bears]

they do list different springs depending on 2wd or 4wd and if 15 inch wheels or 16 inch wheels
right now, sitting on the level ground im at 36 inches to top of wheel well opening rear and 35 front
265/75/16

 

[the great him]

thats not a reliable measurement -tire size can change that. the best way to measure is center of hub to top of fender well.

also again that points to what im saying about there being a lot of different spring options... and by looking at just part numbers it would be almost impossible to pick the exact ones that your truck came with. that being said they have probably superseded to only 2 or maybe 3 options, basically coming down to 2 or 4wd.

but like many have stated i would consider doing a small lift... your area will see a fair amount of snow in the winter, and that extra ground clearance could be nice. its amazing what an exrta inch will do. -this last weekend i was at the beach and watched a guy with a newer Mercedes ML try to get off the beach a couple of time, then he raised it up a little(i guess air suspension) and made it just fine. -same deal with the Subarus, regular Legacys and Outbacks were having a good amount of difficulties and needed to be towed, but the two Crosstreks did just fine. im not saying go all out and go 3" remote reservoirs or anything but yeah just a good OME 1" lift or 4th/5th gen springs and you should be good. -that way when you load if down with gear and or passengers you will be at your current stock height and still have decent ground clearance.

-i remember a few years ago when before i lifted my 97, i was down at Big Lake for a weekend in the winter and i had some issues in the snow, cause i had 4 people, and gear, it was almost on my bumpstops and had to use judicious speed to get me over some snow piles build up in the parking lots. just something to consider.