Another tire inquiry

Based on the price difference I'm seeing at NTB, looks like they are infused with pixie dust for improved hp gains. Possibly even incorporating purple power bands in the radial plys for improved off road handling, and may also be integrating unicorn glitter for it's torque enhancing qualities.

I don't know man, I feel like they must be made of a special future dragon crap compound to handle the 1.21 gigawatts of power they add. I bet they are infused with leprechaun gold and children's tears.
 
Okay...just to throw a wrench. I wanted the dura tracks but went with the good year all terrain adventure with Kevlar. They looked like a good mix of off road and on road fun. The most off-road I do is through muddy fields for fun. I've been quite pleased. Pretty quiet and decent fuel economy. I went up a size and haven't notice a difference on the trip computer.
 
Follow up question: are KOs made out of platinum or something?

LOL.
Yeah. They're pricey. I wouldn't even look at them if it weren't for the extreme snow rating.
My Duratracs had that rating and they were the best I've ever had for snow travel. The KO's are reported to be even better.

I drive a lot in the snow...
 
As someone mentioned before I like these
Bridgestone Duelers

I had the Firestone Destinations on my previous vehicle (03' Trailblazer) we're okay but these are much better (so far)
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I live in Oklahoma so we don't have snow all the time but when we do it usually just turns to ice because our city management sucks at cleaning the roads. So with that and the unpredictable OK weather, I'd like to get something that inspires confidence in most weather conditions but totally eats ice and snow like it's nothing. I know that is a lot to ask of a tire, but I will say before I sold my Jeep (yay) it had some MT tires on it, and in a matter of three months I drove it through ice, snow, mud, floods, and a tornado. That was an interesting day. I had to grab my wife and the cats and get to her storm shelter in a torrential downpour with tornado sirens going off. Fun times.

I guess in retrospect gas mileage isn't a HUGE issue. My jeep was getting about 15 and My 4Runner is getting between 17.3 and 19 depending on where I'm driving. Plus I am going to assume that while the Dunlop may not be as heavy as some tires, it is still an AT tire so the MPG drop would be more minimal compared to if my tires were all season street tires. If I drop a MPG or less, it's still cheaper than my Jeep.

I wish tire companies regularly listed the weight of the tires in each size so one could simply make a comparison. Probably wouldn't be able to get an exact number but it would at least provide a decent idea.
 
I went with General Grabber AT2, winter rated and only around $150 each on Tire Rack. no complaints in the NC ice we get every year. we don't have plows, just zambonis. smooth on road, decent off.
 
Tire Rating System

So just for fun and for anyone who is looking at tires like I am, I took the popular all-terrain tire options listed in this thread that are available at tirerack.com and created a points system. I did this so anyone who uses the search bar for tires could not only use the opinions formulated by our members, but also the ratings at tirerack in one thread. Keep in mind depending on what one desires in the quality of a tire makes these ratings variable to a large degree. This is meant to be a generic rating based on reviews. The reviews will be listed below and then placed into a point system which will be explained and used later. Prices are via tirerack and don not include installation charges. These reviews are based on, to the best of my knowledge, consumer reports and are in no way from personal experience. Hopefully this will help others in the future.

The ratings are as follows from Tirerack.

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.8
-Wet traction: 8.7

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.7
-Dry traction: 9.3
-Steering response: 8.6

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 8.6
-Deep snow traction: 7.9
-Ice traction: 7.7

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.5
-Noise: 8.6
-Treadwear: 8.6

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $197.43
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $789.72

Goodyear Duratrac
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.6
-Wet traction: 8.5

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 7.9
-Dry traction: 9.1
-Steering response: 8.1

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 9.1
-Deep snow traction: 9.2
-Ice traction: 8.0

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.3
-Noise: 7.7
-Treadwear: 8.2

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $181.65
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $726.60

Firestone Destination A/T
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.7
-Wet traction: 8.7

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.7
-Dry traction: 9.2
-Steering response: 8.7

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 8.7
-Deep snow traction: 8.4
-Ice traction: 7.6

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.8
-Noise: 8.6
-Treadwear: 8.5

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $172.18
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $688.72

Michelin LTX A/T 2
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.7
-Wet traction: 8.7

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.5
-Dry traction: 9.1
-Steering response: 8.6

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 8.4
-Deep snow traction: 8.0
-Ice traction: 7.5

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.7
-Noise: 8.5
-Treadwear: 8.6

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $183.14
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $732.56

General Grabber AT 2
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.5
-Wet traction: 8.6

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.1
-Dry traction: 9.0
-Steering response: 8.2

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 9.0
-Deep snow traction: 8.8
-Ice traction: 7.8

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.0
-Noise: 7.4
-Treadwear: 8.2

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $156.89
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $627.56

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.0
-Wet traction: 8.1

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.3
-Dry traction: 8.9
-Steering response: 8.3

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 8.6
-Deep snow traction: 8.3
-Ice traction: 7.2

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.2
-Noise: 7.8
-Treadwear: 8.5

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $225.13
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $900.52

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
Wet:
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8.3
-Wet traction: 8.4

Dry:
-Cornering stability: 8.3
-Dry traction: 9.0
-Steering response: 8.4

Winter:
-Light snow traction: 8.2
-Deep snow traction: 7.8
-Ice traction: 6.9

Comfort:
-Ride quality: 8.2
-Noise: 7.8
-Treadwear: 6.5

Price:
-Price Per Tire: $174.39
-Total price (4 tires) without install: $697.56

Now I will explain the point system. I took a range of numbers and gave them points based off of the rating. It as is follows:
9.0-9.4 = 10 points
8.5-8.9 = 9 points
8.0-8.4 = 8 points
7.5-7.9 = 7 points
7.0-7.4 = 6 points
6.5-6.9 = 5 points

For pricing:
$601-$650 = 10 points
$651-$700 = 9 points
$701-$750 = 8 points
$751-$800 = 7 points
$801-$850 = 6 points
$851-$900 = 5 points

WET PERFORMANCE: (20 Possible Points)

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
-Hydroplaning resistance: 9
-Wet traction: 9
18/20

Goodyear Duratrac
-Hydroplaning resistance: 9
-Wet traction: 9
18/20

Firestone Destination A/T
-Hydroplaning resistance: 9
-Wet traction: 9
18/20

Michelin LTX A/T 2
-Hydroplaning resistance: 9
-Wet traction: 9
18/20

General Grabber AT2
-Hydroplaning resistance: 9
-Wet traction: 9
18/20

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8
-Wet traction: 8
16/20

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
-Hydroplaning resistance: 8
-Wet traction: 8
16/20


DRY (30 points possible)

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
-Cornering stability: 9
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 9
28/30

Goodyear Duratrac
-Cornering stability: 7
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 8
25/30

Firestone Destination A/T
-Cornering stability: 9
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 9
28/30

Michelin LTX A/T 2
-Cornering stability: 9
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 9
28/30

General Grabber AT2
-Cornering stability: 8
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 8
26/30

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
-Cornering stability: 8
-Dry traction: 9
-Steering response: 8
27/30

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
-Cornering stability: 8
-Dry traction: 10
-Steering response: 8
26/30


WINTER 30 points possible

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
-Light snow traction: 9
-Deep snow traction: 7
-Ice traction: 7
23/30

Goodyear Duratrac
-Light snow traction: 10
-Deep snow traction: 10
-Ice traction: 8
28/30

Firestone Destination A/T
-Light snow traction: 9
-Deep snow traction: 8
-Ice traction: 7
24/30

Michelin LTX A/T 2
-Light snow traction: 8
-Deep snow traction: 8
-Ice traction: 7
23/30

General Grabber AT2
-Light snow traction: 10
-Deep snow traction: 9
-Ice traction: 7
26/30

BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO
-Light snow traction: 9
-Deep snow traction: 8
-Ice traction: 6
23/30

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
-Light snow traction: 8
-Deep snow traction: 7
-Ice traction: 5
20/30



COMFORT 30 points possible

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
-Ride quality: 9
-Noise: 9
-Treadwear: 9
27/30

Goodyear Duratrac
-Ride quality: 8
-Noise: 7
-Treadwear: 8
23/30

Firestone Destination A/T
-Ride quality: 9
-Noise: 9
-Treadwear: 9
27/30

Michelin LTX A/T 2
-Ride quality: 9
-Noise: 9
-Treadwear: 9
27/30

General Grabber AT2
-Ride quality: 8
-Noise: 6
-Treadwear: 8
22/30

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
-Ride quality: 8
-Noise: 7
-Treadwear: 9
24/30

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
-Ride quality: 8
-Noise: 7
-Treadwear: 5
20/30



PRICE 10 points possible

Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
-Price: 7
7/10

Goodyear Duratrac
-Price: 8
8/10

Firestone Destination AT
-Price: 9
9/10

Michelin LTX A/T 2
-Price: 8
8/10

General Grabber AT2
-Price: 10
10/10

BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
-Price: 5
5/10

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2
-Price: 9
9/10




OVERALL PERFORMANCE/QUALITY PLACEMENT 120 points possible, adding awarded points per category. Grading Scale A-F. All percentages are rounded up to the nearest whole number.

:first:First: Firestone Destination A/T (105/120 points = 88% B+)

:second:Second: Michelin LTX A/T2 (104/120 points = 87% B)

:third:Third: Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure with Kevlar (103/120 points = 86% B)


Fourth: Goodyear Duratrac and General Grabber AT2 (102/120 points = 85% B)

Fifth: BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO (93/120 points = 78% C+)

Sixth: Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2 (91/120 points = 76% C)


If you need...

Wet Performance:
Both Goodyear Wrangler and Duratrac tires, Firestone, General, and Michelin share the top spot. BFGoodrich and Bridgestone falter by 2 points.

Dry Performance:
Michelin and Goodyear with its Kevlar Wrangler take the top with 28/30 points. Firestone follows closely with 27 points. General and Bridgestone tie with 26 points while Duratrac and the KO come in last with 25 points.

Winter Performance:
Goodyear's Duratrac wins this category with 28 points. Followed by General with 26, Firestone with 24, Michelin, BFGoodrich, and Goodyear with Kevlar all have 23 points, and Bridgestone with 20 points.

Comfort:
Firestone, Michelin, and Goodyear Wrangler all tie with 27 points. BFGoodrich follows with 24 points, Duratrac, General, and the Revo with 23, 22, and 20 points.

Price:
General wins this category by $61.16 being the least expensive to outfit your 4Runner with gaining it 10 points. Firestone and Bridgestone come in second with 9 points each. Duratrac, and Michelin bot get 8 points for being mid range, as does the 7 point winning Wrangler. Lastly at a whopping $900 is BFGoodrich with 5 points.

Best Bang for your buck...?

OffRoad: Probably the General Grabber AT2 because if you bust your sidewall on a rock, it won't cost an arm and a leg to fix it.

On road: Pick one. These ratings are based off of on road performance anyway, and they are speculative because ride quality is often determined by each individual, because there is no computer program to determine this.

*Keep in mind some tires will weigh more than others, resulting in a slight gas mileage decrease.*

There is also a plethora of other tire types on the market. The tires listed above were just the ones listed on the website that are common here. Nitto AT, Cooper AT3, and Falken WildPeak AT tires are also very common and generally highly regarded.



Please no one be offended by this rating system. It uses a system based upon ratings at tire rack that I put a numerical value to. If you have any of these tires that were rated "lower" and love them, I'm glad. This is just based off of reviews that are in a numeric value and accessible. It is potentially flawed as well due to the number of reviewers varying with each tire.
 
I will go out and recommend the Nitto Crosstek tires. These are only available from the NTB/Tire Kingdom family of stores, but they are well worth it, especially when they have their Buy 2 Get 2 or similar sales. I've had mine for about 2 years and 20k miles so far and they are great. They wear well, are quiet, and handle great.

http://www.ntb.com/tires/sku-detail....s?pageName=TireLandingByBrand&skuId=sku20959

I have had the Nitto Crossteks now for about 26,000 miles. Decent all around tire , have worn well and are quiet. I live near the Florida border so snow is not in the equation. Only annoying issue was one of the four I purchased was defective off the shelf causing significant vibration at hwy speeds. It took several visits to the dealer (they had worked on the car about the same time), and it took a trip to another tire dealer with a high speed balancer to find the problem. Tire Kingdom did solace the tire no questions asked. The last 25,000 miles have been good. They still have a ton of tread left but I will probably switch to Michelin LTX M/S at about 25,000 more miles (185,000 for the 4Runner).
 
I purchased the Wrangler Adventure Kevlars about 6500 miles ago, very pleased with dry and wet traction. Quiet, comfortable ride, and they look great too. Hoping to get at least 50,000 miles out of them. Size: 265/65/18.
 

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I purchased the Wrangler Adventure Kevlars about 6500 miles ago, very pleased with dry and wet traction. Quiet, comfortable ride, and they look great too. Hoping to get at least 50,000 miles out of them. Size: 265/65/18.

Looks sharp!
Very nice....

Did you have any trouble balancing them? I read a few horror stories online that made me shy away...
 
I purchased the Wrangler Adventure Kevlars about 6500 miles ago, very pleased with dry and wet traction. Quiet, comfortable ride, and they look great too. Hoping to get at least 50,000 miles out of them. Size: 265/65/18.

I'm kind of leaning toward the Kevlars myself.

I love the TRD logo man. That's a sharp ride.
 

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