Anybody ever swap 3.4 to 2.7? (serious question)

Luckily I was smart enough to buy the 3RZ right off the bat. If I bought the 3.4, the first thing I'd do is swap it out for the 3rz...even before doing the LBJs...haha.

In all seriousness, the 3rz is great motor, but I don't think I'd go through the trouble of swapping out a 3.4. If you really want to get rid of the V6, sell it and spend your money on different TR4 with the 2.7.
 
That's actually a good call - hadn't even thought about that. I installed a new OEM fuel filter a few months ago and throttle under load improved...but that's definitely an easy maintenance item. Thanks!

Watch a video or two about it. I believe there are two types of MAF sensors -- based on year. On mine -- a 2002 -- there are two elements within the MAF sensor. The one that's harder to see is the one that's most important to clean.

Cleaning my MAF sensor completly transformed my truck. It wouldn't downshift under heavy load, it would stumble under hard acceleration... it was a complete turd! When I cleaned the MAF sensor, it began performing like it should.
 
I don't think it'd be worth it for maintenance alone. Maybe if you wanted to turbo it, etc, but the maintenance can't be that different, honestly.

You'll have 2 less spark plugs, and a little less oil for your oil changes? Timing chain v belt, sure, but the TB on the 3.4 can usually last WELL past it's 90k intervals, won't hurt anything if it DOES break, and isn't all that hard to do yourself. My dad and I did mine in about 8 hours, and that included a lunch break, pausing to watch portions of MBTIM's video, creating the crank/cam bolt breaking tool, and 3 separate trips to the store, plus trying to dodge rain drops. I'd say my next TB chnage could be done in half the time.

The 2.7 has a distributor, which itself needs to be maintained, and typically distributor ignitions are harder on wires and spark plugs due to the higher voltage. So you'll theoretically need to replace those more often = more maintenance.
MPG gains are negligible. My stock 188k 3.4 v6 can still just reach 23 hwy if I baby it. I average around 19-20, and I'm none too light on the pedal.



You have to swap the motor, the tranny, the mounts, probably the exhaust (at least pre-cat), probably the belt driven accessories, wiring harnesses, etc.
That plus any timing tuning involved due to the distributor, and any possible CELs to chase down, due to the swap itself, etc.

That's a whole lot more involved, both in cost and labor, than just doing basic maintenance on a pre-existing engine (or even a swap to another 3.4, which will pretty much just be plug and play).
 
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I don't think it'd be worth it for maintenance alone. Maybe if you wanted to turbo it, etc, but the maintenance can't be that different, honestly.

You'll have 2 less spark plugs, and a little less oil for your oil changes? Timing chain v belt, sure, but the TB on the 3.4 can usually last WELL past it's 90k intervals, won't hurt anything if it DOES break, and isn't all that hard to do yourself. My dad and I did mine in about 8 hours, and that included a lunch break, pausing to watch portions of MBTIM's video, creating the crank/cam bolt breaking tool, and 3 separate trips to the store, plus trying to dodge rain drops. I'd say my next TB chnage could be done in half the time.

The 2.7 has a distributor, which itself needs to be maintained, and typically distributor ignitions are harder on wires and spark plugs due to the higher voltage. So you'll theoretically need to replace those more often = more maintenance.
MPG gains are negligible. My stock 188k 3.4 v6 can still just reach 23 hwy if I baby it. I average around 19-20, and I'm none too light on the pedal.



You have to swap the motor, the tranny, the mounts, probably the exhaust (at least pre-cat), probably the belt driven accessories, wiring harnesses, etc.
That plus any timing tuning involved due to the distributor, and any possible CELs to chase down, due to the swap itself, etc.

That's a whole lot more involved, both in cost and labor, than just doing basic maintenance on a pre-existing engine (or even a swap to another 3.4, which will pretty much just be plug and play).

Only the 95 & 96 had dist. 97-04 have coil packs.
 
A 5VZ with 3.73 gears and 225/75/15s? Bring it on. I timed like 8.5 to 60 and it pulls to 100 easily.

I'm bored .30 over, CAI, headers, highflow cat & exhaust with 4.56. I do have my old 275/70R16's still on OEM split 3's. I'll take off my armor & meet you on Rt 120. LOL :lookout:

Any? :car:

See above but for you S/C'd 5VZ's I'll have to pull this TRD/LCE high boost kit out of it's box. :moon: :flamethrwoer2: :car:
 

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Gutless? Have you ever drivin' one with a manual. I'll race any 5VZ on this board.

No offense meant, but it's not exactly a race car of an engine! My 3.slow was a manual as well AND lighter than these 3rd Gen 4Runners AND had undersized tires (don't ask). It was gutless. It was the #1 reason why I wanted a 3rd Gen with the 5VZ-FE engine, it desperately needed a power upgrade. It's actually a very common engine swap for the older rigs.
 
No offense meant, but it's not exactly a race car of an engine! My 3.slow was a manual as well AND lighter than these 3rd Gen 4Runners AND had undersized tires (don't ask). It was gutless. It was the #1 reason why I wanted a 3rd Gen with the 5VZ-FE engine, it desperately needed a power upgrade. It's actually a very common engine swap for the older rigs.

I admit I was a little offended! And I have thick skin! :rofl:

The 3RZ is indeed a race engine. You dont see anyone racing 5VZ's. With proper internal upgrades & boost 3RZ's are making 300 to 900 HP. Yes people are using them to replace their 22RE's but people are also dropping them in Celica's & Nissan's & racing them on the track as well as Tacos off-road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_aAd80jZdc&t=8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0GAXqBq3-Q&t=243s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwb4ucgC8cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2tSUqT5uw
 
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With proper internal upgrades & boost 3RZ's are making 300 to 900 HP.

Or a claimed 1300hp?! I don't care if all that's left of a factory 3RZ is the block and crank. That's still ridiculously impressive. I had no idea...

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I’ve owned both, and both were automatics and I enjoyed both of them. The 2.7 had plenty of power for what I used it for.

If you’re looking to swap to a 4 cylinder, I’d throw something unquie in there.
 
Darn it...I really want to boost my 3rz now! I'm going to start looking for used supercharger kit.

I looked for 2 years, they are rare in the used market. Best place to look is Tacoma World & Custom Tacos. I bit the bullet & bought a brand new one from LCE.
 
Darn it...I really want to boost my 3rz now! I'm going to start looking for used supercharger kit.
Hard to find as Scramble said, I got mine from a member on TacomaWorld.

Magnuson rebuilds them just in case you find one with some miles on it.

Mine was given new bearings, oil, nose cone, rotors, and have been running it for 50k without trouble.
 
So I got around to cleaning my MAFS this weekend and I have to say...my truck runs incredibly well!

I was honestly a little reluctant because there was no way it could be something that simple...so I had been mentally preparing to chase vacuum lines, buy new coil packs and plugs and...hey, while I'm in there...replace the valve cover gaskets and all that crap. I already replaced the fuel filter (with very minute improvement). Guess I've been jaded with trying to keep old BMWs running all these years. haha

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm gonna scrap the 3RZ swap idea. Considering how well it runs now (seriously, it's night and day), I think supercharging this thing would make it an incredibly fun daily driver :D
 
So I got around to cleaning my MAFS this weekend and I have to say...my truck runs incredibly well!

I was honestly a little reluctant because there was no way it could be something that simple...so I had been mentally preparing to chase vacuum lines, buy new coil packs and plugs and...hey, while I'm in there...replace the valve cover gaskets and all that crap. I already replaced the fuel filter (with very minute improvement). Guess I've been jaded with trying to keep old BMWs running all these years. haha

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm gonna scrap the 3RZ swap idea. Considering how well it runs now (seriously, it's night and day), I think supercharging this thing would make it an incredibly fun daily driver :D

Yes it does :)
 

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