Anyone have Prothane bushings notice this?

[seabun]

Not a problem, I've learned so much from this site it's about time I contribute. Hope everything works out for you!

 

[afg10000]

The underbelly of your truck looks like you just drove it out of the factory. I'm jealous.

 

[sugjavier]

All the parts came in and I almost got it right this time :redface:

The part numbers mentioned by Slapdappy and afg10000 are 100% correct. What you need is:

9.8105R/G :set of 8 endlink grommets or bushings and 8 washers. R will be red in color. G will be black and have graphite impregnated in the polyurethane which apparently make them less prone to squeak and are self lubricating. Red may look cooler imo but for this reason I went with 9.8105G

9.5156R/G :set of 2 rear swaybar bushings. 3/4" inner diameter. Comes with new brackets and zerk fittings for easy greasing when needed. Again I went with the graphite variant, 9.5156G.

9.5161R/G :set of 2 front swaybar bushings, 1" or roughly 26mm inner diameter.
-This is where I goofed! I for some reason ordered part# 16.5130G which is called "26mm front sb set". Sounds good, the inner diameter fit the front sway bar fine, but they are too "skinny"; will not fit the oem brackets and do not come with new brackets or anything else. So, I have to return these and order the correct part listed above. I feel so stupid!

But other than this oversight, and having to wait on the correct parts, again!, everything else fits great and went on just fine. Compared to the Prothane endlink bushings, the ES ones fit so snug, are a bit taller, and just seem made for our trucks. Much happier with these.

I'm considering of changing these bushings in my 2001 4Runner 4WD Limited. Will I have to order the ones for 1996 just like the ES link that was posted? I'm not going to replace it myself, just buy the part then get my mechanic to do it. I just want to get the correct stuff the first time

 

[SilverRidgeRunner1]

Rather odd question but I have already replaced my D bushing but have not replaced the link pin bushing did u notice much of difference at all with drive or cornering.

 

[Ron Helmuth]

resurrect

Glad to have found this thread and the specific part numbers to use.

I like the idea of greaseable replacements and several reviews on Amazon mentioned the Prothane 's not fitting tightly issue.

thank you seabun

 

[theriddler]

UPDATE:

Ok I finally was able to talk to someone at Prothane. Their 8 digit vanity # is worthless (don't bother calling 1-888-prothane), but a quick google search gave me their local number in CA as (714) 979-4990 and I got right through. Spoke to Dominic, explained the situation, and he went to check the parts himself and call me back. Called back in 5 minutes, and HIS measurements for the end link bushings inner diameter that they design for 96-01 4Runners was 15.3 mm. He said their plans, their measurements for our vehicle stated that was correct. I reminded him that both my OEM and replacement end links had a diameter of 9mm, to which he replied that once the bushings are tightened down and torqued properly the "bowl" washers will keep them in place, despite the 2.5mm of free space between the bushing and the link (5mm/2 for 2.5 on each side). He said he confirmed this with their engineers that this was right!

Now I do appreciate his prompt call back and looking into the matter, but his assurances aren't really enough to warrant me using these parts. Unless I am mistaken and there is some type of benefit to having the bushings fit loose like that, this seems like a huge mistake on their part and should be brought to the attention of anyone thinking of buying this kit.

Please look at the pics, with the bushing on the new Moog link and on what's left of my OEM link. Am I making too big a deal out of this? Am I crazy? Should I just shut my yap and put the darn parts on already?

I think I ran into this when I replaced the ones in the front of mine, I had some extra rubber style ones laying around from another project so I just used them and didn't think anything of it. So yeah, the bigger ones are not ideal and I ended up using the rubber ones after all and tossed the Prothane ones aside. Sucks manufacturers don't pay more attention to this, but it all probably comes from China anyways.

 

[gamefreakgc]

[MENTION=85201]seabun[/MENTION] how are these working out for you? I think I should do these as well, since I'm trying to get the steering and suspension back to a "stock" feel and not the sloppiness I have right now.

 

[seabun]

[MENTION=115347]gamefreakgc[/MENTION] so far so good. I was coming from having no end links up front; during an oil change the tech noticed the oem ones had rusted/broken off. So I can't give an accurate description of how these compare to oem bushings but what I Can say is having the zerk fittings and ability to grease them is really nice and will extend the life of the product I assume. Compared to how my truck was flopping pretty bad prior, it feels a lot more solid and stiff for having only replaced the bushings and not seriously upgrading the sway bars or anything. I'm happy with my purchase

 

[gamefreakgc]

Sweet I think I'll go the same route then.

 

[gamefreakgc]

Soo... problem.

I ordered the 9.8105R and the inner diameter is 9mm. Except that my sway bar end links are actually 10mm. Anyone else have this issues and know which is the correct part #?

EDIT: Found some threads on YT that says to grease them and just beat them down. Looks like there is no other size. It'll have to work!

 

[Arv]

All the parts came in and I almost got it right this time :redface:

The part numbers mentioned by Slapdappy and afg10000 are 100% correct. What you need is:

9.8105R/G :set of 8 endlink grommets or bushings and 8 washers. R will be red in color. G will be black and have graphite impregnated in the polyurethane which apparently make them less prone to squeak and are self lubricating. Red may look cooler imo but for this reason I went with 9.8105G

9.5156R/G :set of 2 rear swaybar bushings. 3/4" inner diameter. Comes with new brackets and zerk fittings for easy greasing when needed. Again I went with the graphite variant, 9.5156G.

9.5161R/G :set of 2 front swaybar bushings, 1" or roughly 26mm inner diameter.
-This is where I goofed! I for some reason ordered part# 16.5130G which is called "26mm front sb set". Sounds good, the inner diameter fit the front sway bar fine, but they are too "skinny"; will not fit the oem brackets and do not come with new brackets or anything else. So, I have to return these and order the correct part listed above. I feel so stupid!

But other than this oversight, and having to wait on the correct parts, again!, everything else fits great and went on just fine. Compared to the Prothane endlink bushings, the ES ones fit so snug, are a bit taller, and just seem made for our trucks. Much happier with these.

Didn't want to bring this ancient thread back to life but I just wanna say this is the best info I've found so far! Thanks!!!! I actually used your list to purchase my parts. I only had to figure out that I only needed one set of the end link bushings.

I did find a post saying that the rear bracket holes are not close enough so you'd have to file it down a bit so you can thread your bolt into the hole? Also need washers for the rear and front brackets since the holes are quite bigger than the original brackets?

Thanks again!