AOB switch wiring question

[GearJunkie88]

I really really really tried to find a forum post that could help me with this, but...

I installed a couple of LED lights following this wiring diagram I found on this forum:

I'm using an AOB switch like this:

Following the diagram and post where I found it, I connected the green wire from the switch to the headlight high beam wire. The new LED lights come on when I turn on the high beams (from the stalk switch) and have the AOB button in the "on" position. That's great!

But... The AOB switch has 2 lights. The bottom one lights up the words when the dash lights are on (works perfectly). The top one lights up the image. The problem is every time I turn on the high beams, that top lights illuminates... even if the AOB switch is in the "off" position and the new LED lights don't come on. As a result, it's confusing to me when the new LED lights are actually on.

Does anyone have a recommendation for how I can wire the switch to illuminate the top light (the icon on the button) only when the AOB switch is in the "on" position and the high beams are on (i.e., when the LED spot lights actually turn on)?

Thanks!

 

[MNT4R]

I really really really tried to find a forum post that could help me with this, but...

I installed a couple of LED lights following this wiring diagram I found on this forum:

I'm using an AOB switch like this:

Following the diagram and post where I found it, I connected the green wire from the switch to the headlight high beam wire. The new LED lights come on when I turn on the high beams (from the stalk switch) and have the AOB button in the "on" position. That's great!

But... The AOB switch has 2 lights. The bottom one lights up the words when the dash lights are on (works perfectly). The top one lights up the image. The problem is every time I turn on the high beams, that top lights illuminates... even if the AOB switch is in the "off" position and the new LED lights don't come on. As a result, it's confusing to me when the new LED lights are actually on.

Does anyone have a recommendation for how I can wire the switch to illuminate the top light (the icon on the button) only when the AOB switch is in the "on" position and the high beams are on (i.e., when the LED spot lights actually turn on)?

Thanks!

Strange. The 12V trigger shouldn't do that if everything is hooked up correctly. I have a bunch of AOB's in my rig and that has never happened. May be a faulty switch, do you have any others you are planning on installing that you could swap out to see if the same thing occurs (just the switch, not the harness)? The people at AOB are usually quick to respond and may have encountered this before, have you tried them [email protected] ?
Good luck. If it is a wiring issue be sure to post what happened so we can learn!

 

[Saker]

It appears you have it wired correctly according to diagram, but....the pin locations may be incorrect on your switch.

Something similar was happening on another thread....
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/214398-consolidated-lighting-info-thread-5.html

[MENTION=117927]TRUSTYAXE[/MENTION] may be able to help here!

 

[Engineer]

I cant see the diagram (work computer) but from the sounds of it you need a diode in the green wire. When your high beams are turned on but AOB switch off you are getting power fed down the green wire which is illuminating the top light on the AOB, essentially the switch light thinks the switch is "on" even though its not.

 

[TRUSTYAXE]

[MENTION=147757]GearJunkie88[/MENTION]

Swap the wires connected to red and green. It seems like the switch "ON" LED light comes on when green is hot on some recent switches.

 

[flyrv9]

Do you have a diagram of the inside of that AOB switch? You may have to connect a couple of pins on that switch together to get the operation you want. You could also ring out the switch with a meter (checking all pins to all other pins in each switch position) and make your own drawing. Then, comparing that to what the manufacturer says, determine if the switch is defective.

 

[MNT4R]

[MENTION=147757]GearJunkie88[/MENTION]

I cant see the diagram (work computer) but from the sounds of it you need a diode in the green wire. When your high beams are turned on but AOB switch off you are getting power fed down the green wire which is illuminating the top light on the AOB, essentially the switch light thinks the switch is "on" even though its not.

Dug this up. I think Engineer is spot on with the diode as most new vehicles use diagram 2

 

[GearJunkie88]

Many thanks for the pointers! The diode option sounds logical -- I only want electricity to go to the high beam wire, not the reverse. I happen to have a 1N4001 diode in a drawer (left over from an Arduino project). I'll wire that into the circuit later tonight and see how it goes. The AOB diagram shows the diode in a different place in the circuit, but we'll see.

Swapping the red and green wires could also be a resolution. If the diode doesn't solve the problem, I'll move forward with swapping those two wires.

Again, I appreciate you all taking time to post a reply. I'll post the results after I get through with the fire department :flame:

 

[GearJunkie88]

Success! I tried the diode fix and sadly, it didn't work (yep, I tried the diode in both directions just to be sure... and still not exactly sure why that wouldn't work because it seems logical). BUT -- swapping the red and green wires at the AOB switch worked! Now the AOB light illuminates only when the switch is in the "on" position and the high beams are on.

I love it when a plan comes together. [queue A-Team music]

 

[Deuskid]

I came on line to start reading up on how to wire a LED light and found this thread.

Going to follow it to learn what I can.

Thanks

 

[MNT4R]

I came on line to start reading up on how to wire a LED light and found this thread.



Going to follow it to learn what I can.



Thanks

Lots of good resources in this forum! Here is a good one for your job http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/214398-consolidated-lighting-info-thread.html


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[Saker]

Success! I tried the diode fix and sadly, it didn't work (yep, I tried the diode in both directions just to be sure... and still not exactly sure why that wouldn't work because it seems logical). BUT -- swapping the red and green wires at the AOB switch worked! Now the AOB light illuminates only when the switch is in the "on" position and the high beams are on.

I love it when a plan comes together. [queue A-Team music]

I knew you didn't need the diode. Too many tried and true installs without one.
Had to be pins in the wrong slot!

Glad you got it ironed out!

 

[TRUSTYAXE]

Glad it worked out, got my fridge switch in the mail today and it came with this..thought I'd add it for future reference.

 

[GearJunkie88]

Interesting. That diagram is different than the one I got with my switch AND it matches how things are wired (now) in my truck. Glad to see that AOB is sending the right diagram.

 

[Saker]

Glad it worked out, got my fridge switch in the mail today and it came with this..thought I'd add it for future reference.

Ahhhh,

Notice the pin locations and the color wires on the first diagram (that is actually my drawing) and the one you posted.

I see where the confusion is happening! They are changing wire colors in those top 2 locations.

 

[5280 TRail-Runner]

Many thanks for the pointers! The diode option sounds logical -- I only want electricity to go to the high beam wire, not the reverse. I happen to have a 1N4001 diode in a drawer (left over from an Arduino project). I'll wire that into the circuit later tonight and see how it goes. The AOB diagram shows the diode in a different place in the circuit, but we'll see.

Swapping the red and green wires could also be a resolution. If the diode doesn't solve the problem, I'll move forward with swapping those two wires.

Again, I appreciate you all taking time to post a reply. I'll post the results after I get through with the fire department :flame:

I love the community here on this forum especially when it comes to stuff like this! I was never really a "car guy" until I got my 4Runner but I had basic knowledge with electrical and wiring but looking through threads on here has taken it to another level and I feel pretty confident about doing most of my own stuff now. Glad you were able to get things figured out!

And a tip for the new guys to the forums, don't be that guy... Take the time to search the forums first cause chances are you will find an answer to your question. If not only then start a new thread. :cheers:

 

[sbly16]

I'm installing a AOB light switch for a 40" Rigid light bar and have a simple question if you guys have a second. How to I remove a blank light switch panel? Yes I did do a google search for the answer and came up with nothing. I'm new to the world of the 4Runner and really do appreciate the help.

 

[Jhalko]

I'm installing a AOB light switch for a 40" Rigid light bar and have a simple question if you guys have a second. How to I remove a blank light switch panel? Yes I did do a google search for the answer and came up with nothing. I'm new to the world of the 4Runner and really do appreciate the help.

The blanks pop out from behind, you want instructions to pop off he whole panel but it can be done without...

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/218676-how-remove-knockout-plugs-dash-lights.html

 

[sbly16]

Jhalko, thanks for the help.

 

[Watchdog59]

AOB switch to controll KC Flex lights need relay?

I’ve been reading the threads on this forum over the last few weeks and I must say what a gold mine of data you all have put together here. Really great work!
However I find myself in a quandary. I want to add ditch lights to my trail edition, specifically these:

KC FLEX? LED DUAL PAIR PACK SYSTEM

I also would like to use this AOB switch I ordered (instead of the cheesy KC one the lights come with):

12 Volt 3amp ON-OFF Toyota OEM Replacement Push Switch with LED green red lights -Air On Board

So what’s the problem?
Well…
1. AOB states that this switch MUST be used with a relay.
2. The KC Flex lights don’t come with a relay. Just a harness.

My question is:
Is the Hella 66134 relay ok to use? Is there something better I should go with?

Thanks for any help in advance!