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beklemmung
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My 97 SR5 lived in AZ up until a few years ago. I wasn't the one who got it smogged when it was first registered in CA, and I haven't had to do it since I got it, but the previous owner didn't mention any difficulty in getting it to pass. It's completely stock.
pluton
Senior Member
No No No. That applies to NEW cars, so folks won't run over to Vegas to buy cars cheaper.
A 49 state car like the one you are describing (and like mine, also from AZ) will be tested in California---tested to meet it's native 49 state standard.
Unless the CA rules have changed since June (ha ha), when I last smogged my 1997 4runner which was bought new at camelback Toyota in Phoenix in 1997.
If you look at the prospective 4Runner, make sure that all the underhood electric and smog control connections look kosher, that is: Not cut, hacked, bandaided, rerouted, etc.
Drive it a hundred miles right before you get the smog test.
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4gambler
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You can register it in CA as a red sticker vehicle LOL !!!
The Cold War Kid
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Before smog test put 3 ounces of pure acetone for every 10 gallons of gas into the tank. 19 gallon tank = 6 oz. Put the acetone in first then gill tank.
The acetone can be had at walmart, sold as finger nail polish remover. Drive a while to get the fuel into the motor before testing
Acetone degrades rubber o-rings and seals. Please don't do this at the risk of harming your engine. Yes, it may have worked fine for you, your family, your dog, etc. but it has not worked out well for lots of other people. Use at your own risk.Before smog test put 3 ounces of pure acetone for every 10 gallons of gas into the tank. 19 gallon tank = 6 oz. Put the acetone in first then gill tank.
The acetone can be had at walmart, sold as finger nail polish remover. Drive a while to get the fuel into the motor before testing
acetone is a solvent. and it will degrade o-rings and seals
I don't know why you're quoting me. You just said the same thing I did. :wtf:
phattyduck
Elite Member
There's a small extra fee for the transfer into the state, otherwise it is 100% fine.
-Charlie
-Charlie
Very good info, thanks!
So is this worth a 1 way flight to Phoenix from LA? The price is high, it's 2wd (which I'm fine with) and not a limited. And what is a good price to make the flight/drive worth it?
2000 TOYOTA 4RUNNER SR5 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale
2000 TOYOTA 4RUNNER SR5 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale
gamefreakgc
Elite Member
That's not what the sticker means. I have a federal emissions 4Runner as well and it has passed smog each time (except for when I tried it with the deckplate mod, that one is not allowed).
socalkid
New member
these things are totally subjective, case by case, and up to each person, but since you asked i don't know that i'd fly to AZ for that runner. overall it's a good truck at a decent price, not something i'd consider egregious, not bad but also not great either, and i'd only fly for a great deal personally.
for reference, i bought my 2wd 3rd gen about 2 years ago from the original owner with 78k miles on it for $5k and it was 30 min away. price was a little high too for a 2wd, but considering it was original owner, low mileage, and i was able to inspect and test drive in person, all had it made sense for me
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Daikon
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(disclaimer - this is not legal advice)
Edit: I just found this e-mail from CARB. I had asked them about what is considered a "new vehicle" brought in from out of state and smog requirements.
The sticker that you provided by the owner, only applies to the first owner aka the ultimate purchaser of the vehicle. Meaning, the first person to buy this vehicle brand new, cannot be a california resident or live in a state that adopts the California emissions law (section 177). So in theory, the vehicle you're looking at CAN be registered in the State of CA as long as it passes Federal EPA emissions requirements.
Subject: 49 state vehicles
Apr 17, 2018,
"Hello,
If a vehicle being purchased out of state has less than 7500 miles at time of purchase, then it is considered new and needs to meet CA emission standards.
If the vehicle being purchased out of state has more than 7500 miles, it is considered used and must meet at least federal emissions standards.
Thank you."
I purchased a used 5th gen at a dealership in Phoenix this year and brought it back to CA. This is how it works.
1. The vehicle MAY be compliant with CARB emissions. You have to check the sticker under the hood.
2. If it is not, it needs to meet federal emission standards.
Probably best to smog before you take the title to the DMV to transfer the title. They will do a VIN verification (a DMV employee will walk out to the vehicle with you and inspect the VIN on the dash, door, hood, engine (i don't remember if they did this on mine) and check the mileage on the odometer. Once that is done, you'll get CA plates and registration. Make sure to have the Arizona title or last registration card from the previous owner.
Edit: I just found this e-mail from CARB. I had asked them about what is considered a "new vehicle" brought in from out of state and smog requirements.
The sticker that you provided by the owner, only applies to the first owner aka the ultimate purchaser of the vehicle. Meaning, the first person to buy this vehicle brand new, cannot be a california resident or live in a state that adopts the California emissions law (section 177). So in theory, the vehicle you're looking at CAN be registered in the State of CA as long as it passes Federal EPA emissions requirements.
Subject: 49 state vehicles
Apr 17, 2018,
"Hello,
If a vehicle being purchased out of state has less than 7500 miles at time of purchase, then it is considered new and needs to meet CA emission standards.
If the vehicle being purchased out of state has more than 7500 miles, it is considered used and must meet at least federal emissions standards.
Thank you."
I purchased a used 5th gen at a dealership in Phoenix this year and brought it back to CA. This is how it works.
1. The vehicle MAY be compliant with CARB emissions. You have to check the sticker under the hood.
2. If it is not, it needs to meet federal emission standards.
Probably best to smog before you take the title to the DMV to transfer the title. They will do a VIN verification (a DMV employee will walk out to the vehicle with you and inspect the VIN on the dash, door, hood, engine (i don't remember if they did this on mine) and check the mileage on the odometer. Once that is done, you'll get CA plates and registration. Make sure to have the Arizona title or last registration card from the previous owner.
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pluton
Senior Member
I'm gonna say you may need to have already had the vehicle pass CA smog test before they'll register it. In CA, the smog test results are transmitted directly from the test machine to the DMV. You may be able to handle the entire registration online, w/o an office visit.
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