Backpacking and Gear Talk

Sorry to hear about the theft! I love this thread btw, I am trying to get back into camping/hiking and this is a great resource, there are so many new brands and especially UL gear now it's crazy. I'm looking at picking up an Osprey Atmos 50 or 65 pack. I tried one on at Scheels and it blew my mind how comfortable the anti-gravity system was. Given, there was no weight in the pack, but compared to others I've tried on it was super nice. I'm a little torn between the sizes though. After carrying a VERY overloaded pack and being miserable hiking on a couple trips, I definitely know the benefits of keeping the weight down and am looking strongly at UL gear. Seems like people love the ULA packs as well. *Subscribed* :nerd:

I use mostly 60L packs. My old pack was a 60L Granite Gear Access, and carried about 45lbs. The new Granite Gear Crown that I picked up is also a 60L, but I wouldn't carry much over 30lbs with it. After hiking the AT I can tell you how much better UL stuff is.
 
Looks like my gear list is going to be changing again. A few days ago some ass clown broke into my 4runner at work, and snagged my pack. Didn't take anything else but my pack either. They got a nice pack, sleeping pad, top quilt, tent (no poles), and my cutting gear. Pretty much took everything ultra-lite that I had.

I'll be updating my list as I pick up new items.

What a piece. That blows man!
 
I really want to do the High Sierra Trail this year to Precipice lake then back.. Anyone have any experience on the HST?

Gear list off the top of my head..


Pack:
Osprey Atmos 65 AG

Tent:
MSR Nook 2

Sleep:
Teton Tracker +5
Klymit Static V
Thermarest Basecamp
(considering a pillow, anyone recommend a packable pillow?)

Hydration:
Etekcity .01micron water filter
1L Nalgene

Cook:
Etekcity Ultralight Portable Stove
Snowpeak Trek 900ml
 
Fun reading all the lists! Speaking of, I have a printable packing list that we check off to make sure we don't forget anything- or take too much.

My pack...hubby's is pretty similar-ish. We split the community stuff fairly evenly.

Deuter Act lite 60+10

Neo-air Trekker (hubby and kid bought their BA pads the same day I bought this. For me it was the most comfortable. Guess who's has yet to leak...knock on wood...or to be replaced :D). In winter I put my left-over clothes or jackets between the pad and my bag- usually my pants, maybe a jacket or two. We have a lighter, warmer neo-air too but I like my Trekker much better- a little wider and not so very crinkly
4 sleeping bags, all synthetic, most of the time use one, but have been known to double up when needed (I am a very cold sleeper). Most are Mountain Hardware, a Lamina -15, a woman's Lamina 20, another much older women's Lamina 20 (use for 70+ degrees), and a 40 degree cheap somewhat light bag for over 90)
Jetboil (warm fuel with body heat before use when it gets colder)
Jetboil fuel. We did a science fair project with 4 different fuels in cold weather. This one did the best, though MSR and Snowpeak were close.
Pot set, silicone bowl and cup, titanium spoon, longer nylon spoon for cooking
MSR water filter (goes in the sleeping bag when it's cold) and some back-up tablets. Bladders and a dromedary too.
Tent's just an REI ....half dome or something like that, I forget. 4 person...well, 3 people and a dog.

Layers, the minimum amount. All synthetic other than a couple of wool bits. Considering how cold I get it's still more than most people. I don't bring more than I can wear at one time, 'cept for socks and undies, and something lightish to sleep in if the days are gonna be hot and sweaty. I can't smell you because my nose is broken from smelling me.

Chair. It's a coleman woodsman II camp chair that weighs a little over 2# and I am totally fine with strapping that sucker to the outside of the pack.

Bear vault.

Rain fly/ wet weather gear if needed. We're all-weather.

Headlight, multi-tool, med kit, the usual junk like that. I use a library app for books on my phone- and a battery pack for longer trips. We backpack as often as we can given our other ideas of fun. Have rarely missed at least one night a month camping, foot or truck, usually more often though I think 5 is the most days we've backpacked so far. Kinda limited as the kid can do 11 miles, but not every day. He carries his own bag, pad and chair, hubby and I split the everything else. The dog carries some of his stuff, I carry the rest, like food and his sleeping bag and his coat and his rain coat and his socks and boots (depending on weather, of course).

Weekend before last...
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He's got his coat on and I'm putting on his socks and boots. The hubby's pack is in the background and you can just see mine encased it its duck's back.
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I do more bikepacking then backpacking, I'm considering get a frame backpack, but in the meantime use a Osprey Momentum 30 on the short trips I do take.

Sleeping Gear:
-Marmot Sorcerer 20ºF - 3 lb. 8 oz (Not the lightest or smallest, but it works fine for bikepacking. Combined with a wool blanket and layers of clothing, I've used it down to 0ºF. A Bergans of Norway Sastrugi down coat (22 oz) definitely helps.)
-Big Agnes Insulated Air Core - 25.8 oz
-Grand Trunk double hammock - 28 oz OR Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock - 7.3 oz
-Hennesy Hex Rainfly in snake skins - 29 oz (I can cut 3 oz if I don't use carabiners on the rainfly.)
-Fox Outfitters Vine Hammock straps - 16 oz
-AceCamp Y-stakes (x6) - 2.6 oz

Kitchen:
-Primus OmniLite TI - 12 oz + fuel
-Primus Pot - 7 oz
-Primus titanium spoon and fork- .96 oz
-Sawyer squeeze - 4 oz
-Nalgene 1L
--If I'm bikepacking I use a lot more water, I usually take a 3L water bladder and a couple of podium big chills

Some sort of knife (Usually Morakniv, Condor, and/or Leatherman), and if I'm biking I of course have to carry extra tools, CO2, and parts for the bike. But it's not on my back, so weight is not as backbreaking. I have always ended up being the strongest rider on bikepacking trips, so some weight typically gets passed to me to give me a handicap. Especially if my 13 y/o brother is going, I carry a lot of his stuff.
 
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Time for a new pad. The Exped Synmat 9 LW and the Klymit Static V Lux Insulated fit my wishlist (wide, long, thick, insulated, backpackable, under $200). Anybody have any experience with either/both?

edit - does NEMO make good stuff? I've never heard of them, but the Cosmo is comparable to the Exped and Klymit in R value and width, thickness, and weight.
 
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Time for a new pad. The Exped Synmat 9 LW and the Klymit Static V Lux Insulated fit my wishlist (wide, long, thick, insulated, backpackable, under $200). Anybody have any experience with either/both?

edit - does NEMO make good stuff? I've never heard of them, but the Cosmo is comparable to the Exped and Klymit in R value and width, thickness, and weight.

I've heard go things about the Klymit pads, but no personal experience. They have one on Massdrop right now for about $50, but I don't think it's the insulated pad.
 
enjoying the thread.

it's been years since i backpacked. everything in the last 20 has been day-trips.

the only thing pertinent that i have feedback on is boots. i have a pair of lowa tibet gtx hi, and they suck. poor durability, and haven't really become comfortable after repeated use. the toe piece is shredded, the rubber surround is coming apart, and the lower cushion has cracks all over the outside (perhaps ozone/oxidation, but cracked nonetheless). i don't really like the version of the vibram sole, either. not good dry traction, not good wet traction, and only marginal on rocks. the interior of the boot is fine, and shows virtully no wear. not at all worth the admission price (on sale at $343).

i have a much better (and heavier) pair of old school raichle all-leather boots that have withstood 30 years of hiking/use. still on the original laces, too. the old-style, hard vibram lugged sole is still in good condition, and works well.

my pack is a run-of-the-mill llbean bigelow internal frame. i know it isn't super light, or what is considered hi-tech, but other than boots, it's something that i've used extensively over the last 10 years. while i don't go backpacking, i do use it for my daily job, and carry a bunch of my gear in it (often 5 quarts of paint, a paint gun, hatchet, and two liters of water), and it is comfortable for that. it has also proven to be very durable. other than being dirty and paint spattered, the materials are in excellent condition. i'd buy another one, if it were available and i wore this one out. i consider the use/environment/conditions that i put it through to be more difficult than backpacking/hiking. it has a provision for a hydration pack, too, but i've never used it.

wally
 
I've been using a Klymit Static V for several years now, it's been great for the price and their customer service was super when I had an issue. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Klymit pad if the specs were right.

I kinda think I'm leaning towards that NEMO pad though. 80x30x4 inches of insulated goodness sounds very comfy to these old bones.
 
I've been using a Klymit Static V for several years now, it's been great for the price and their customer service was super when I had an issue. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Klymit pad if the specs were right.

I kinda think I'm leaning towards that NEMO pad though. 80x30x4 inches of insulated goodness sounds very comfy to these old bones.

We use a Big Agnes 3" pad, and love them (72X20). The Therm-a-Rest NeoAir's are pretty nice too, but I think they're only about 2" thick.
 
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We use a Big Agnes 3" pad, and love them (72X20). The Therm-a-Rest NeoAir's are pretty nice too, but I think they're only about 2" thick.

I ordered the NEMO yesterday, but if I need to return it I might try looking at the Q-Core next. It's not as wide or as long as the Cosmo, but the raised tubes on the side are a nice touch.
 
Jetboil fuel. We did a science fair project with 4 different fuels in cold weather. This one did the best, though MSR and Snowpeak were close.

Interesting.

Better in what respect? Firing up with the clicker instead of a match?

Anything else in play after it's burning?
 
Interesting.

Better in what respect? Firing up with the clicker instead of a match?

Anything else in play after it's burning?

Better as far as how quickly it was able to bring the cold water to a certain temp which meant not using as much fuel each time. We weighed the canisters too, before and after, to confirm that. The difference was pretty darned small, though, between Jetboil, snowpeak and msr. We used each canister at outside temp, it was cold, I'll have to look to see what the actual temp was, and find the graph the kid made.
If we're actually out using the Jetboil in the cold we warm the canister up first, with body heat, don't want to get too warm. Much easier to ignite. Once the temp gets in the low teens the stove can be a bit annoying to get started. So far so good though.
 
Okay, found it! This is a page out of my kid's Science Fair notebook from several years ago. Five trial were done with each fuel. All numbers are metric. We tested
Jetboil Jetpower
MSR Isopro
Snow Pek Giga Power
Primus Powergas
I have several pages of weight and time data too, but this pretty much covers it without lots of overthinking.
The test was done with a Jetboil stove because that's what we own.
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Okay, found it! This is a page out of my kid's Science Fair notebook from several years ago. Five trial were done with each fuel. All numbers are metric. We tested
Jetboil Jetpower
MSR Isopro
Snow Pek Giga Power
Primus Powergas
I have several pages of weight and time data too, but this pretty much covers it without lots of overthinking.
The test was done with a Jetboil stove because that's what we own.

These results are interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with the container? I think most of the fuel canisters are all filled by the same factory overseas somewhere. I know when we were on the trail last year there was a massive shortage across the board due to a factory explosion.

When it's going to be about 20* or less we always make sure to carry a small section of foam to cook on. For cooking in cold weather it's best to have the canister off the cold ground. You can get legs for canisters, or just set it on something. I even think companies like JetBoil and MSR have a hanging system for these purpose.
 
enjoying the thread.

it's been years since i backpacked. everything in the last 20 has been day-trips.

the only thing pertinent that i have feedback on is boots. i have a pair of lowa tibet gtx hi, and they suck. poor durability, and haven't really become comfortable after repeated use. the toe piece is shredded, the rubber surround is coming apart, and the lower cushion has cracks all over the outside (perhaps ozone/oxidation, but cracked nonetheless). i don't really like the version of the vibram sole, either. not good dry traction, not good wet traction, and only marginal on rocks. the interior of the boot is fine, and shows virtully no wear. not at all worth the admission price (on sale at $343).

i have a much better (and heavier) pair of old school raichle all-leather boots that have withstood 30 years of hiking/use. still on the original laces, too. the old-style, hard vibram lugged sole is still in good condition, and works well.

my pack is a run-of-the-mill llbean bigelow internal frame. i know it isn't super light, or what is considered hi-tech, but other than boots, it's something that i've used extensively over the last 10 years. while i don't go backpacking, i do use it for my daily job, and carry a bunch of my gear in it (often 5 quarts of paint, a paint gun, hatchet, and two liters of water), and it is comfortable for that. it has also proven to be very durable. other than being dirty and paint spattered, the materials are in excellent condition. i'd buy another one, if it were available and i wore this one out. i consider the use/environment/conditions that i put it through to be more difficult than backpacking/hiking. it has a provision for a hydration pack, too, but i've never used it.

wally

Agreed on the boots.
 
Pretty sure this isn't a thread yet, and I figure I'll be the one to start it.

After returning from a thru-hike on the AT only a couple weeks ago. I'm already itching to get back out, and away from the daily grind. I've learned a lot from my 2200 mile hike about gear. After returning my wife and I are already getting rid of gear, and in turn buying new gear.

Let's hear what you have, and places you've been. We're starting to plan our next trip, and are set to leave in about 3 years.

I currently use Ula equipment bags for both my wife and myself. I will never use another ultralight again.
 

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