The only way Toyota could justify a massive price increase is if they pair it with a massive feature set and performance increase, in which case they would be knowingly shifting their target market.
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The only way Toyota could justify a massive price increase is if they pair it with a massive feature set and performance increase, in which case they would be knowingly shifting their target market.
gomiami
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There will be a 15% or so price hike whether there's a 15% improvement or not. It's a guarantee.
Blackwatch
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The Tundra only went up $2000 on a TRD off-road. That's a full redesign. Depends on the trim but 5% max IMO. I can see the hybrid option being 10-15% though.
gomiami
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I am using the Sequoia as a baseline rather than the Tundra. The bigger SUV was about 15% with the redesign. If the increase is only 5%, I'd be pleasantly shocked. The tech Toyota is probably going to add will be a 5% upcharge all by itself.
We're all going to find out soon enough.
Blackwatch
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I wonder if it was because the Sequoia went from gas only to hybrid only?
gomiami
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I don't know. Maybe? Personally, I think Toyota used the redesign to position the Seqioua to appeal to a higher end clientele. A $60K base model requires a pretty decent income level and a $70+ PRO and Capstone is nearing 2021 Land Cruiser cost.
Also, with the Tundra, the higher trim levels went through the roof. The Platinum jumped from 51 to 59, 1794 from 51 to 60 and the (now) hybrid only PRO from 50 to 69!
Maybe the SR5s and Off-Road 4Runner has a modest increase but the Limited and PRO should get the Tundra and Sequoia price jumps. The new Capstone trim will be around 60. The question is how will Toyota price the Sport and ORP and which trims will get the hybrid?
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We are in the market for a new SUV or crewcab, I'm trying to hold off the next gen 4runner before making a decision.
Sequoia is priced tad high for the base compared to other full size SUVs, I'd go for a limited at least. Better value would be tahoe or yukon at this price point
Tundra ; we are considering the pro at msrp basically 66-70K range pending on dealer. Its at least 6 months out to order, but it'll have the needs/wants in a truck I'd like to have.
Colorado buff
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I am also waiting for 6th gen. Was waiting for the new bronco but realized don’t need to take off roof and doors, but love roll down rear window on 4 runner. Though that two door bronco is great if I wanted smaller.
gomiami
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I'm not sure there is a concensus that the roll down rear window will be retained on the 6th gen 4Runner. Toyota got rid of it on the Tundra to everyone's dismay.
balong48
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It’s still on the Tundra but not the new Sequoia
gomiami
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Thanks, lol. I had Sequoia written first and then changed it to Tundra after a brain freeze. The Sequoia is even more telling since it is a fellow SUV.
Blackwatch
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Yes, this makes sense. Pro and Limited will get the hybrid and jump 20%. The OR and SR5 will be 2.4 turbo and go up a few grand like most redesigns. Probably the same with the Tacoma's trim levels.
balong48
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Agreed I think it’s more telling, especially with the two factors of its removal (at least that were disclosed to us) being:
1) aluminum tailgate
2) didn’t fit in with the design CALTY wanted.
I think Tundra and 4Runner owners enjoy it more than the Sequoia owners, but I’ve never read Sequoia forums lol.
Sweers said they kept it in the Tundra since people love it.
Who knows what’ll happen lol. Gotta keep waiting sadly
Finslayer83
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Toyota has trade marked "Land Cruiser and variants" for 2024MY.
There was a big thread on mud about it. LC and "Trail Hunter" both were listed as new MY trademarks.
ETA: I'd be thrilled if we got the new Prado as the 6th gen as long as the MTS and locker are there like in AU.
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gomiami
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I thought the Lexus GX is the Land Cruiser Prado...
balong48
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Since the 4th gen, the 4Runner has shared the GX/Prado platform. Given everything moving to TNGA-F, the resemblance should continue. I'm guessing with the modularity of the F platform it would be the Tacoma, 4Runner, Hilux, Prado all being the "smaller" variant of the F platform; whereas the Sequoia, Tundra, Land Cruiser, and LX 600 are all on the "bigger" variant.
gomiami
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OK. I was responding to Finslayer83's wish to get the Prado as the 6th gen. That won't happen since the Prado is already sold in the US under the Lexus name.
I do agree that the 4Runner will continue to be a less expensive cousin of the GX thanks to the common platform.
Finslayer83
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gomiami
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There's no consolidation needed. It's already one vehicle, called the Prado in Europe/Asia and the Lexus GX in North America. The name is just marketing.
Will Toyota consolidate the name? I dunno...
