Best suspension/lift kit for around $1k? (Yes I've researched)

Lol. I got some quotes on the Bils today, but holy shit that installation fee was higher than i expected! I've paid for coilover installs on performance cars before and it was half the cost. Regardless tho, i think its only a matter of time before i make the buy. Just waiting and shopping prices right now.
Money can be made again and again, right? You can't take it with you when you die, why not spend it and live happily? Im familiar with dark rabbit holes, btw. Nothing new to me.

How much was it if young don't mind me asking? I've only found 1 shop around me that will install customer bought parts. The only estimate he could give me was $100/hr and the last time he did fronts it took him 3 hours. The back from what I've heard is considerably easier. I'm guessing $500 min for install from most shops. I know prices differ all over the country.
 
How much was it if young don't mind me asking? I've only found 1 shop around me that will install customer bought parts. The only estimate he could give me was $100/hr and the last time he did fronts it took him 3 hours. The back from what I've heard is considerably easier. I'm guessing $500 min for install from most shops. I know prices differ all over the country.
He said $850 for all four installed! I almost walked out right there, but I know this shop and they do outstanding work in the Jeep community here. Still tho, its pretty damn steep. I was expecting $500-600 lol.

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He said $850 for all four installed! I almost walked out right there, but I know this shop and they do outstanding work in the Jeep community here. Still tho, its pretty damn steep. I was expecting $500-600 lol.

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That is a complete rip off. What's stopping you from doing it yourself? Since you aren't doing UCA's, it makes it even easier.. That's literally the most expensive install for a basic kit that I've ever seen on the forum. I've never seen anyone on here post that they've paid more than $400-$600.

Have you never turned a wrench at all? I'm far from mechanically inclined, but even the most basic person could do the rears which could not be easier, especially with a $50 spring compressor kit.
 
He said $850 for all four installed! I almost walked out right there, but I know this shop and they do outstanding work in the Jeep community here. Still tho, its pretty damn steep. I was expecting $500-600 lol.

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I agree that is a total ripoff. I just bought a King/Total Chaos complete suspension, over $4000 I dropped and the install was like $450........
 
That is a complete rip off. What's stopping you from doing it yourself? Since you aren't doing UCA's, it makes it even easier.. That's literally the most expensive install for a basic kit that I've ever seen on the forum. I've never seen anyone on here post that they've paid more than $400-$600.

Have you never turned a wrench at all? I'm far from mechanically inclined, but even the most basic person could do the rears which could not be easier, especially with a $50 spring compressor kit.
Yep, I agree. Probably won't be giving them ANY of my business.

I've helped on several coilover installs and removals, but nothing solo. I watched a video and it seems pretty straight forward, I just don't have a lot of tools at my house. I need to recruit someone who has a garage full of tools.
I agree that is a total ripoff. I just bought a King/Total Chaos complete suspension, over $4000 I dropped and the install was like $450........
Damn man. That ain't bad at all. I'm gonna ask around this weekend to see if any friends can help and go from there.

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I agree that is a total ripoff. I just bought a King/Total Chaos complete suspension, over $4000 I dropped and the install was like $450........
I don't think the cost of your suspension has anything to do with the cost of its installation...
 
I don't think the cost of your suspension has anything to do with the cost of its installation...

In general it shouldn't, perhaps there is slightly more work because of the adjustors, i was just showing how ridiculous it is, the price of install is almost the cost of the suspension!
 
In general it shouldn't, perhaps there is slightly more work because of the adjustors, i was just showing how ridiculous it is, the price of install is almost the cost of the suspension!

While I agree, it's too much but 5 hours is a reasonable amount to charge for a full install in a well equipped shop.

Labor is labor...and I'd charge $100 an hour.



OP maybe a member will chime in. I'm doing my neighbors like I said on Sunday. It's no problem he's a great guy who helps me in other things so a win win.
 
Lmao, don't blame you! That looks killer man. Loving the wheels.

If you wouldn't mind? That'd be great!

I have also narrowed down suspension. I just mentioned the tires because I'm looking at doing both in the same timeframe. Not sure why it's a big deal?

Thanks for the tip on that page, I'll check it out shortly.

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Will have pics for you on Sunday. :D
 
If you buy parts through a shop who does the install they'll typically charge $300-400 for install. If you buy parts online or from somewhere else you're looking at $600-800. They're not going to bend over backwards for you on the install if you just drop off a bunch of parts.

I installed it on my own without ever doing any type of suspension work previously and it turned out fine. Took longer than I wanted but all I'm out is time and money on tools which I get to keep forever.

There are a bunch of good videos on youtube, I followed the Lowrangeoffroad ones very closely and watched as I went along if I ran into a trouble spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-7ysiGblyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxV-CAAfrgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbsTJgb6S_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmr_qz5k2-E&

Beyond the typical tools you need here is what I would suggest
1. Have the top mounts pre-assembled. Don't mess with spring compressors. Watch a few youtube videos of people who **** up with a spring compressor and you'll know enough not to even bother with it. A shop should do this for about $50-$80
2. You don't need impact tools. Your regular sockets and wrenches will work. Ratcheting wrenches makes life easier. Have a 1/2" breaker bar on hand. The lower ball joint bolts were tough and I needed to use the breaker bar in a few situations. Some penetrating oil may help too
3. A few videos said the lower CAM bolt was a 21mm. Mine was a 22 or 23mm (can't remember which exactly) for some reason so have those on hand.
4. 3/8" and 1/2" torque wrenches. You can rent these I believe from Auto-Zone from their rent a tool program. I ended up buying some because I wanted some anyways. There are some areas where the 1/2" one is too big to get to and certain bolts where the 1/2" can't get down to spec enough so have a 3/8" too
5. Always torque back to factory specs so get those number first and re-torque after 100 miles. There are a few diagrams of torque specs on this forum.
6. The rear was harder than I thought. Just make sure you give the brake line extra slack. Loosen up the nut on the axle
7. Have a large set of channel locks or groove joint pliers on hand. When I was taking out the rear shock, while loosening the top nut the shock just kept spinning and spinning. My other pliers were too small to grip around the shock and I couldn't get enough grip by just holding it. Ended up having to walk to Wal-mart at 2AM in the morning to get a set of 2 1/2" channel locks which wasn't very fun. Thankfully they had a large set there and my Wal-mart is only 0.5 miles from me. Still not fun.
8. If able have a buddy help but definitely doable by yourself too

I watched those videos multiple times, read various tips on this forum, and then wrote down instructions on pen and paper each step by step (plus you don't want to look things up on a laptop with greasy hands). That way I did not mess a thing up and yet there were still steps that I needed to adjust/change. This goes along with my nature to be obsessive with researching (which you didn't appreciate my suggestion of doing research prior asking questions), watching instructional videos, and reading what others have done previously. Much better to go in prepared. Hope that helps.
 
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If you buy parts through a shop who does the install they'll typically charge $300-400 for install. If you buy parts online or from somewhere else you're looking at $600-800. They're not going to bend over backwards for you on the install if you just drop off a bunch of parts.

I installed it on my own without ever doing any type of suspension work previously and it turned out fine. Took longer than I wanted but all I'm out is time and money on tools which I get to keep forever.

There are a bunch of good videos on youtube, I followed the Lowrangeoffroad ones very closely and watched as I went along if I ran into a trouble spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-7ysiGblyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxV-CAAfrgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbsTJgb6S_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmr_qz5k2-E&

Beyond the typical tools you need here is what I would suggest
1. Have the top mounts pre-assembled. Don't mess with spring compressors. Watch a few youtube videos of people who **** up with a spring compressor and you'll know enough not to even bother with it. A shop should do this for about $50-$80
2. You don't need impact tools. Your regular sockets and wrenches will work. Ratcheting wrenches makes life easier. Have a 1/2" breaker bar on hand. The lower ball joint bolts were tough and I needed to use the breaker bar in a few situations. Some penetrating oil may help too
3. A few videos said the lower CAM bolt was a 21mm. Mine was a 22 or 23mm (can't remember which exactly) for some reason so have those on hand.
4. 3/8" and 1/2" torque wrenches. You can rent these I believe from Auto-Zone from their rent a tool program. I ended up buying some because I wanted some anyways. There are some areas where the 1/2" one is too big to get to and certain bolts where the 1/2" can't get down to spec enough so have a 3/8" too
5. Always torque back to factory specs so get those number first and re-torque after 100 miles. There are a few diagrams of torque specs on this forum.
6. The rear was harder than I thought. Just make sure you give the brake line extra slack. Loosen up the nut on the axle
7. Have a large set of channel locks or groove joint pliers on hand. When I was taking out the rear shock, while loosening the top nut the shock just kept spinning and spinning. My other pliers were too small to grip around the shock and I couldn't get enough grip by just holding it. Ended up having to walk to Wal-mart at 2AM in the morning to get a set of 2 1/2" channel locks which wasn't very fun. Thankfully they had a large set there and my Wal-mart is only 0.5 miles from me. Still not fun.
8. If able have a buddy help but definitely doable by yourself too

I watched those videos multiple times, read various tips on this forum, and then wrote down instructions on pen and paper each step by step (plus you don't want to look things up on a laptop with greasy hands). That way I did not mess a thing up and yet there were still steps that I needed to adjust/change. This goes along with my nature to be obsessive with researching (which you didn't appreciate my suggestion of doing research prior asking questions), watching instructional videos, and reading what others have done previously. Much better to go in prepared. Hope that helps.
Thanks for that detailed contribution man! I feel it can be done on my own, which will happen way before I pay what they asked. The $800 install was with me buying the parts thru them. I was shocked.

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Lmao, don't blame you! That looks killer man. Loving the wheels.

If you wouldn't mind? That'd be great!

I have also narrowed down suspension. I just mentioned the tires because I'm looking at doing both in the same timeframe. Not sure why it's a big deal?

Thanks for the tip on that page, I'll check it out shortly.

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Here you go man. Mag grey is my neighbor. Bilstein's set at 1.75 in the front, 1" cornfed spacers in the rear. He's running 265's in the KO2 flavor. It turned out nice and we are so close, but his springs will settle a little after driving and alignment.

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Here you go man. Mag grey is my neighbor. Bilstein's set at 1.75 in the front, 1" cornfed spacers in the rear. He's running 265's in the KO2 flavor. It turned out nice and we are so close, but his springs will settle a little after driving and alignment.

Hey! He lives...Ninja
 
Here you go man. Mag grey is my neighbor. Bilstein's set at 1.75 in the front, 1" cornfed spacers in the rear. He's running 265's in the KO2 flavor. It turned out nice and we are so close, but his springs will settle a little after driving and alignment.

2ugcffn.jpg
So did you guys only install fronts? About how long did it take you? Any snags?

Thanks again!

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So did you guys only install fronts? About how long did it take you? Any snags?

Thanks again!

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No, 5100's all around and rear cornfed 1" spacers. It took about 3.5 hours in the driveway and it would have been shorter but we installed a shock bushing wrong on a front and didn't realize it until it was all back together. So we pulled it all apart again. I think 2.5 hours is doable with just hand tools, that is all we used as my compressor is buried in my mess of a garage. Very simple, you can do this easy!

If you were closer I'd have you just bring it over and we could knock it out quick!
 
Here you go man. Mag grey is my neighbor. Bilstein's set at 1.75 in the front, 1" cornfed spacers in the rear. He's running 265's in the KO2 flavor. It turned out nice and we are so close, but his springs will settle a little after driving and alignment.

2ugcffn.jpg


Thanks again for the help today [MENTION=140851]Vinsil[/MENTION] it was very nice to have a guide looking over my shoulder.
 
I didn't read what anyone else recommended but from my previous experience and long history with lifting/off-roading Tacomas, Land Cruisers and 4Runners is that you can't go wrong with OME, Bilstein and/or Eibach (my current 4R). If you go above 2.75" make sure to replace the UCA. SPC (Light Racing) is the best bang for your buck for that choice. GL
 
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