BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2 went on sale today

[proimion]

I've got 7Kon mine now. 18.1 MPG at an average speed of 26.3 mph. In other words, mostly not highway. Several days of trails, too.

Instant upgrade to the 4R, wouldn't you say:

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[geirvmax]

Have the 275 All-Terrain T/A KO2. They are much heavier than the stock Dunlop Grandtreck AT20. 39 lbs. 5 oz. compared to 54 lbs. 11 oz.
Other than being heavy, love the tires! Great in snow and in gravel and rocks. Very quiet and a "soft" feel while driving in general.
Gas mileage is reduced about estimated 10%. They feel great. Very quiet on the road, and the grip off road is amazing.
The load rating on these tires is higher than on the stock tires.

The tires are really great!

 

[1engineer]

Installed 4 new ko2 oem size from discount tire last December, $160 each. After 1500 miles driving, my several feelings:

1. Noise- slightly higher low pitch noise both low and high speeds. But totally acceptable. This is my biggest concern before buying my first AT tires..
2. MPG- 80% city, 20% highway. Combine MPG from 19.1 dropped to 18.0
3. Acceleration- I didn't feel any difference compared to oem dunlop
4. Looks- No need to say anything...

Still waiting for the 1st real trip to justify BFG's real capability..
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Merged into 46 pages of KO2 feelings.

 

[1engineer]

Does anyone else feel the same way?

I have the KO2s in 275/55/20 (albeit on a RRS not a 4R) w/ ~8k miles and they've been amazing in the rain, snow, and ok on ice (just this past weekend in the mountains). I'm a little surprised that yours are having issues--wonder if it might be an inflation/suspension thing.

Many tires out there better in the wet and slush. Not for hydroplaning, I'm sure the BFG does fine at that. The wet and slush road traction. Look for a tire that has some siping. That is the key.

 

[Cobalt Anubis]

I love my KO2's

 

[Cobalt Anubis]

I purchased my KO2's in January 2016. 12 months later, its are still the best upgrade that I have purchased for my ABMOINIABLE. I only wish I had done it sooner.

 

[brian0128]

I saw something interesting today. I was over at the Jeep dealership with a buddy in the parts department and they had a new Wrangler on the floor. It was a "winter" edition with 265/70-17 Load Range C KO2's from the factory.



I took a look at the door sticker and it was recommended to run them at 37psi. Now I'm looking for a 4 door winter edition to see if they recommend the same tire pressure on the 4 door JK.

 

[engineeer]

Many tires out there better in the wet and slush. Not for hydroplaning, I'm sure the BFG does fine at that. The wet and slush road traction. Look for a tire that has some siping. That is the key.

I read through your thread on the AT3's and I'm very torn between the two of them. I live in an area where it rains about 1/4 of the year (not too heavy) and I go off-roading 4-8x a year, but aside from that I do a lot of city/highway driving. I think I'll be more than happy with either, but damn my need to have the absolute best option

 

[Aurora85]

Very clgood she to pulling trigger on 265 KO2s. Only thing holding me up is wondering if I'll notice the heavier tires daily accelerating etc. folks on here say no some say yes. Am I making a big deal over nothing? The tires look amazing.. I just don't want to regret an expensive purchase. Mpg is no big deal.. just don't want to feel any slower ha. Thanks for any opinions.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

I read through your thread on the AT3's and I'm very torn between the two of them. I live in an area where it rains about 1/4 of the year (not too heavy) and I go off-roading 4-8x a year, but aside from that I do a lot of city/highway driving. I think I'll be more than happy with either, but damn my need to have the absolute best option

Also consider the type of pavement in your area. There's lots of sealed asphalt up here in Ohio, and the KO2's slipped too much for my liking any time they were damp. They were fine dry, wet, or snowy, but when they were just damp I always felt that they lacked traction they should have and TC or ABS would kick in much sooner than it should have been. It was more than when it first started raining and the oil would float to the surface problem, because it would also happen at the end of 4 days of rain when things were starting to dry out finally. I swapped from the KO2's to the DiscoAT3's and have been very satisfied so far (almost 6kmi), well except the aesthetic department, they just aren't as rugged looking as the KO2's.

 

[Aurora85]

Pulled the trigger on 265 ko2s at the Toyota dealer with their spring promotion. It's running $867 out the door. Here at the dealer getting them installed. I know I'll love the look but anxious to see how they will handle daily driving wise.

 

[xpress]

Also consider the type of pavement in your area. There's lots of sealed asphalt up here in Ohio, and the KO2's slipped too much for my liking any time they were damp. They were fine dry, wet, or snowy, but when they were just damp I always felt that they lacked traction they should have and TC or ABS would kick in much sooner than it should have been. It was more than when it first started raining and the oil would float to the surface problem, because it would also happen at the end of 4 days of rain when things were starting to dry out finally. I swapped from the KO2's to the DiscoAT3's and have been very satisfied so far (almost 6kmi), well except the aesthetic department, they just aren't as rugged looking as the KO2's.

I am looking at replacing the stock tires on my Limited with KO2s. Your post gave me some pause. I live in a very hilly area - even my own driveway is pretty steep and long (800ft) but have not sealed in years. When you say you felt the KO2 slipped too much on a sealed surface, are you referring to mostly sealed driveways? I don't think I have ever seen any roads other than driveways get sealed after they have been paved.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

I am looking at replacing the stock tires on my Limited with KO2s. Your post gave me some pause. I live in a very hilly area - even my own driveway is pretty steep and long (800ft) but have not sealed in years. When you say you felt the KO2 slipped too much on a sealed surface, are you referring to mostly sealed driveways? I don't think I have ever seen any roads other than driveways get sealed after they have been paved.

Of course it was worst on asphalt that had been sealed within the past 8 months. Most of those places are low speed areas, driveways & parking lots. The occasional road resurface (fresh oil) would be cause for concern. I also tend to drive with a heavy foot, so some well traveled and worn intersections, and old rutted asphalt were concerning. Mostly it was a mental block that I had to slow down in certainly nearly normal conditions instead of being able to drive normally. Honestly the weather traction was a concern, but it was the ride that had me switch to the Coopers. I wanted to keep the larger 275 size but go to a C rating, KO2 only available in E in that size. They looked great, would describe traction as fair on damp sealed/worn asphalt, though overall good in other conditions including ice, but the E load is too stiff for a daily driver on a pothole riddled commute. IMHO, if the tire were better siped it would be great, but that would surely cost durability off road. The idea of 3d siping is commendable, but for on road all weather conditions it's not quite enough. Since it's an off road tire I guess that's ok. If you need an off road tire the KO2 is probably still top of the list, but if you want something for an all season daily driver that can handle the occasional off road trip, I'd look heavily at the Coopers or new Wild Peak AT3 (which look like a cross between the ST Maxx and OC AT2). So ask yourself if you really need an off road tire, or just want it?

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[xpress]

Of course it was worst on asphalt that had been sealed within the past 8 months. Most of those places are low speed areas, driveways & parking lots. The occasional road resurface (fresh oil) would be cause for concern. I also tend to drive with a heavy foot, so some well traveled and worn intersections, and old rutted asphalt were concerning. Mostly it was a mental block that I had to slow down in certainly nearly normal conditions instead of being able to drive normally. Honestly the weather traction was a concern, but it was the ride that had me switch to the Coopers. I wanted to keep the larger 275 size but go to a C rating, KO2 only available in E in that size. They looked great, would describe traction as fair on damp sealed/worn asphalt, though overall good in other conditions including ice, but the E load is too stiff for a daily driver on a pothole riddled commute. IMHO, if the tire were better siped it would be great, but that would surely cost durability off road. The idea of 3d siping is commendable, but for on road all weather conditions it's not quite enough. Since it's an off road tire I guess that's ok. If you need an off road tire the KO2 is probably still top of the list, but if you want something for an all season daily driver that can handle the occasional off road trip, I'd look heavily at the Coopers or new Wild Peak AT3 (which look like a cross between the ST Maxx and OC AT2). So ask yourself if you really need an off road tire, or just want it?

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You're right! Not really need it. The shop I called suggested Nitto Grappler as an alternative as it's C rated. Any chance you considered that?

 

[lightway]

I am debating on the 265 E or C rated. I have run E rated for last 4 vehicles but wonder what I am missing utilizing a C rated tire. Just how much "better" a ride do they give? Just how much difference in fuel mileage are C and E tires due to the weight differential?

I had decided on KO2's but remember just how well the Duratracs I have had did in all conditions. I seldom actually off-road anymore but have always been pissed if I pull off the road or drive out in the pasture and get stuck.

 

[MidWesT4R]

I am debating on the 265 E or C rated. I have run E rated for last 4 vehicles but wonder what I am missing utilizing a C rated tire. Just how much "better" a ride do they give? Just how much difference in fuel mileage are C and E tires due to the weight differential?

I had decided on KO2's but remember just how well the Duratracs I have had did in all conditions. I seldom actually off-road anymore but have always been pissed if I pull off the road or drive out in the pasture and get stuck.

I'm in a similar boat with you.. I saw the BFG went on sale on tirerack.com and am purchasing either the 265/70/17 or the 275/70/17. Im getting a set of FN wheels as well.. just need to decide what to wrap them in... I had 275/70/16 BFG A/T on my 2011 FJ and those were E rated.. I thought they were a great tire. Was a DD truck with very minimal offroading(camping/canoeing). I think I got an average of 15.5mpg in city.. The ride was fine imo.

 

[Friggin Idiot]

You're right! Not really need it. The shop I called suggested Nitto Grappler as an alternative as it's C rated. Any chance you considered that?

Honestly I never considered the Terra Grappler G2's. They come on the TRD Pro's so you are sure to find some information on them in the forum.
My list did consist of the Toyo Open Country AT II, Hankook DynaPro ATM, Cooper Discoverer AT3, BFG KO2, Dick Cepek Fun Country or Trail Country, and Goodyear Duratrac.
I'll leave you to do your own research and develop opinions about them. Just keep in mind the intended use for the tire. Some people are fine with E load as an option, having tried it myself, they weren't for me on my daily driver. Google is your friend, and take every review with a grain of salt, you can't compare a review from a F350 dually to the 4Runner, there's a huge weight and use difference!

 

[Throwback]

I run stock size C load KO2s and to me they feel exactly like the stock tires. I drove 300 miles yesterday from Atlanta to the gulf coast in a tornado monsoon storm front. No issues with wet traction and over 20mpg.

I've had the Cooper AT3s and the Nitto TGs all in stock size and in my experience both are louder and bumpier than the KO2s.

 

[lunarsnowstorm]

I read through your thread on the AT3's and I'm very torn between the two of them. I live in an area where it rains about 1/4 of the year (not too heavy) and I go off-roading 4-8x a year, but aside from that I do a lot of city/highway driving. I think I'll be more than happy with either, but damn my need to have the absolute best option

Sounds like the AT3 will do you fine. Great tire for the Highway. Had zero complaints with them in the rain and snow. If you said you spent more time off road, I would say go with a more agressive tread. That's the only reason i swapped them out for the Cooper ST Maxx

 

[MidWesT4R]

I ended up ordering the BFG KO2s in 265/70r17 "C" and the gun metal countersteer type x from FN Wheels today :dancin: I think these tires will do fine since it is my DD and only do minimal offroading/camping/canoeing etc.. Tire rack has a really good sale going on with a mail in rebate on top of the sale price. Thanks for the info guys!!