- Bilstein 5160 Remote Resi 25-187700 3rd Gen-

FreshSeabass

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Looking to upgrade the rear shocks from my current setup (Bilstein 5125) for more travel as well as remote reservoir. I have always liked the 5160 however, I cannot determine the valving needed or if anyone has run these shocks.
View attachment 219146 these are part# 25-187700

These are the shocks and they come in three valving options. I will be running these with 851's as soon as my Badlands Rear bumper shows up and drawers installed.

Comments and criticisms are appreciated. If you recommend a different shock let me know. Looking for shocks in the 10-12" travel range

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Are you bumped down enough to fit a 16" compressed shock?

I know that even the Land Cruiser tokico's are only 14.5 compressed

That would be my only concern
 
offroadxplr said:
Are you bumped down enough to fit a 16" compressed shock?

I know that even the Land Cruiser tokico's are only 14.5 compressed

That would be my only concern
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I am bumped, I am looking into getting hydraulic bumps where the conical bumps go and extending the axle bumps a bit to compensate.
 
I'm running 255/70 and they are plenty soft with the used LC80 8.5 wraps. I would go at least 255/70 especially if you have any weight it the rear. I lowered mine from 250psi down to about 200psi. With too much weight they bottom out easy at that pressure. At 250psi they are fine with heavier loads though but not crazy stiff. I also didn't have to extend my bump stops because of the way I mounted them so I have more up travel than what you would have if you mount them in stock location. I would forsure go at 255/70 or even 360/80 if you want them a little stiffer or you have more weight in the rear (bumpers, spare tire, a bunch of tools, etc)


Also be aware that the collapsed length is pretty long for stock mounting location. You will have to extend your bump stops at least 3" I'd assume. Depending on how tall of springs you are running you might spit a coil at full extension with that long of a shock. Just my .02¢. If you can make it work great for your application then by all means go for it but from some experience, I wouldn't want to only a couple inches of up travel before I bottom out. The way I mounted my shocks (vertically) the compression ratios are pretty linear so they don't soften up throughout the compression cycle like they would if they were mounted angled like stock. So keep that in mind also when choosing your valving.
 
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I'm running 255/70 and they are plenty soft with the used LC80 8.5 wraps. I would go at least 255/70 especially if you have any weight it the rear. I lowered mine from 250psi down to about 200psi. With too much weight they bottom out easy at that pressure. At 250psi they are fine with heavier loads though but not crazy stiff. I also didn't have to extend my bump stops because of the way I mounted them so I have more up travel than what you would have if you mount them in stock location. I would forsure go at 255/70 or even 360/80 if you want them a little stiffer or you have more weight in the rear (bumpers, spare tire, a bunch of tools, etc)
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FINALLY!! Thanks for the input, I am building my own tube swingout tire carrier on an addicted Offroad tube rear bumper, 33x12.5 KM2, misc tools, 1st gen roll bar and cargo drawers so I am leaning towards 360/80. Also, I would like to run either OME 851's or 861's depending on how much weight I add up so, I don't think spitting a coil would be a problem I would encounter. Did you run the common frame mount, upper shock stud mount when you relocated? I've wanted to do this for a while in order to not have to struggle in a scenario where I'm reaching for that shock stud. I am also wanting to evenly distribute the weight on the shocks so a linear setup would be ideal.
 
FreshSeabass said:
FINALLY!! Thanks for the input, I am building my own tube swingout tire carrier on an addicted Offroad tube rear bumper, 33x12.5 KM2, misc tools, 1st gen roll bar and cargo drawers so I am leaning towards 360/80. Also, I would like to run either OME 851's or 861's depending on how much weight I add up so, I don't think spitting a coil would be a problem I would encounter. Did you run the common frame mount, upper shock stud mount when you relocated? I've wanted to do this for a while in order to not have to struggle in a scenario where I'm reaching for that shock stud. I am also wanting to evenly distribute the weight on the shocks so a linear setup would be ideal.
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I thought those OME coils give land cruisers 2.5" rear lift and installed on our rigs can give 5-6" lift. So you're likely to actually spit a coil if not bumped correctly or am I mistaken?
 
JayRolla said:
I thought those OME coils give land cruisers 2.5" rear lift and installed on our rigs can give 5-6" lift. So you're likely to actually spit a coil if not bumped correctly or am I mistaken?
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Correct! I'm looking to extend my bump stops 3.5" and if my math is correct, I should have about 1 1/4 shock stanchion left at full bump. I am also running close to 400lbs at all times hence the heavy a** coils.
 
5160s Experience

For anyone else curious about Bilstein's 5160 rear remote reservoir shocks, I'm happy to share my experience so far. I recently noticed my OMEs squeaking obnoxiously over even the smallest bumps, and didn't seem to ride correctly after just 18 months of use. I started looking around at fancy rear shocks and quickly drooled over Icons, Kings, and Foxes, knowing damn well they're outta my price range. I stumbled upon the 5160s and was super interested right way but couldn't find any reviews on any forums or pages for them when applied to a 3rd gen. I went out on a limb and ordered a pair from Wheelers Offroad for about $400. Two months in and I couldn't be happier with them. I haven't been to Moab nor do I flex on a daily basis, but for a daily driver that sees trails and rough roads a few times a week, the 5160s have kicked ass so far.
 
RomanSchnobrich said:
For anyone else curious about Bilstein's 5160 rear remote reservoir shocks, I'm happy to share my experience so far. I recently noticed my OMEs squeaking obnoxiously over even the smallest bumps, and didn't seem to ride correctly after just 18 months of use. I started looking around at fancy rear shocks and quickly drooled over Icons, Kings, and Foxes, knowing damn well they're outta my price range. I stumbled upon the 5160s and was super interested right way but couldn't find any reviews on any forums or pages for them when applied to a 3rd gen. I went out on a limb and ordered a pair from Wheelers Offroad for about $400. Two months in and I couldn't be happier with them. I haven't been to Moab nor do I flex on a daily basis, but for a daily driver that sees trails and rough roads a few times a week, the 5160s have kicked ass so far.
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Just what i've been looking for! Which coils do you run with these?
 
Glad I could I help! I'm using the 5160s with OME 2890s, which are for a medium load. I typically carry around 100 lbs of camping and recovery gear and it's around 3.5" with that load.
 
RomanSchnobrich said:
Nope, I used the ones designed for 3rd gens. I know it's nowhere near ideal as they're not designed for that much lift, but I've never cared much about achieving maximum flex.
Bilstein 5160 Remote Reservoir Rear Shock Set for 96-02 4Runner (25-268362 / 25-268379)
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I was trying to decide between these and the 4th gen ones to go with my 6112s. The 3rd gen seemed too short (12.9" - 20.66") and the 4th gen possibly too long (14.9" - 23.5") and would need bumpstop extenders. Plus they were sold out everywhere. The Tundra 5100 with swapped bushings where right in between (13.84" - 22.4"), so I gave up and got those. Same as I had been using already.

Sounds like the 3rd gens would have worked though because I don't care too much about flex either. I have the same 890 (and 10mm spacers) for about 3.25" rear lift. I know the 4th gen 5160 measure the same as the FJ 5100 used in the Sonoran Steel lift with 890s so I would imagine they work well but I've never seen anyone using them.
 
Soooo just an FYI the 4th gen Billies part # 25-227611 have a lower shock eye that is a major PITA. I have them and I'm trying to figure out how to mount them. There don't seem to be any Poly half cones bushings that will work with the shock eye (its almost 2" diameter). So currently my solution is to source a different shock eye all together that will work with the regular bushings. OR find a Heim that will work with the billie 14mm shaft threads. I am running 861 springs and I compared the compressed length and extended length to a set of Monroe shocks for an FJ 80 (which is what I currently have) and its VERY close which is why I chose them just enough length to NOT spit a coil.. Its just the lower shock eye bushing that is my hurdle... Maybe some higher knowledge folks might point me in the right direction?
 
AZBub said:
Soooo just an FYI the 4th gen Billies part # 25-227611 have a lower shock eye that is a major PITA. I have them and I'm trying to figure out how to mount them. There don't seem to be any Poly half cones bushings that will work with the shock eye (its almost 2" diameter). So currently my solution is to source a different shock eye all together that will work with the regular bushings. OR find a Heim that will work with the billie 14mm shaft threads. I am running 861 springs and I compared the compressed length and extended length to a set of Monroe shocks for an FJ 80 (which is what I currently have) and its VERY close which is why I chose them just enough length to NOT spit a coil.. Its just the lower shock eye bushing that is my hurdle... Maybe some higher knowledge folks might point me in the right direction?
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The 4th gen (FJ Cruiser) shocks should be a direct bolt on? 19mm lower mount same as 3rd gen. Do you have a picture of what's going on with it? I always have a hell of a job trying to get shocks with the one piece bushing worked on to the mount (and removing them too). WD40 or some grease helps get them on.
 
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repo said:
The 4th gen (FJ Cruiser) shocks should be a direct bolt on? 19mm lower mount same as 3rd gen. Do you have a picture of what's going on with it? I always have a hell of a job trying to get shocks with the one piece bushing worked on to the mount (and removing them too). WD40 or some grease helps get them on.
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Well, I finally tried getting them on again and what a PITA. I used a tie down strap and compressed the shock, threaded the top on just enough to hold it. then slowly released the tie down till the bottom was about right then with some elbow grease and a dead blow hammer tapped it on. I cleaned the lower mount with a wire brush and some steel wool then coated with a little dollop of anti seize.

Part of it was laziness and the 100+ degree weather. I was finding a reason to NOT try i suppose...


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I just installed the 4th gen 5160s without issue. On the ground in my garage FWIW. I left the factory shock compression straps on and installed the shock on the lower mount first with a tiny bit of lithium grease for lubrication. Once the lower mount was on I cut the strap holding them compressed, slipped the bushing on the top stud and let them extend into the upper mount. Had to shave the top bushing down a little on a abrasive wheel in order to expose enough threads to get the top washer and nut on.

How is everyone running the reservoirs? The 4th gen resi mounts don't do shit for us 3rs gen guys! I have an idea but would love to see some pics of what others are doing.
 
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