Bilstein 6112 clip position and lift heights

[Brian.]

I didn't see any real world info, maybe others will search and keep this thread current. This is needed because what Bilstein lists for lift height/clip position simply isn't true.

At clip positions 6/7 I had 2.5" lift (claimed 1.6")
At clip positions 3/4 I have a 1.75" lift (claimed 0.7")

This is on a stock 99, no extra weight up front and 2" lift in the back with OME 906 springs. I ran about 100 miles, with 20 of those as fairly high speed washboard, before taking the initial measurement. No clue why I'm seeing numbers So far off from Bilsteins specs. But I'm not the only one..
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2783844-post22468.html

Looks like another stock limited, but claiming clip positions 6/7 and a 1.9" lift.


Just be warned, you'll likely need to pull the shocks and springs after the initial install to get the right height. I'd advise starting 1 clip lower than they suggest unless you have a plate bumper + winch.

 

[Bad Luck]

[MENTION=315156]Brian.[/MENTION] What was your fender to hub measurement prior to lift? Which 6112's did you use, 4Runner or Tundra?

 

[Brian.]

[MENTION=315156]Brian.[/MENTION] What was your fender to hub measurement prior to lift? Which 6112's did you use, 4Runner or Tundra?

Fender height before lift was 20.5" all around, now just on either side of 23" (rear higher, front lower). I used the 4runner 6112's, the 47-258624 kit.

 

[AL B.]

I love my 6112’s

 

[Benfica]

I love my 6112’s

Al B.,

How do you like the Tundra 5100 and 890 coils? What clips did you put the 6112 on? I'm going to go with the 6112 up front for a 2inch lift, just trying decide what to put on the back.

Any hub to fender measurements?

 

[gbb]

Bumping this thread as Brian and I were having a conversation about 6112 clip settings in a different thread. It might be worth updating the original post in this thread with the following information.

Good grief, that's my biggest complaint. I have no clue what perch I ended up with because I had to change it 3 times. I was aiming for just Slightly taller than stock on a '99, minimal positive "rake". 3/4 I think, maybe that's where I started.

I honestly got so fed up with changing the heights that I simply quit. Not Exactly where I wanted it but heck if I'm changing it again for the small difference.

I wanted the 2.5" body for the extra oil (takes longer over rough terrain for fade ~ I was a suspension tech in decades gone Way by so sometimes I let my theoretical wants over-rule common sense). Makes complete sense that the Valving is the same as that is 100% reliant upon the spring rate.

I dug up some old posts that I found during my 6112 research. Below are some of the perch settings and corresponding ride heights that I found. Perch settings are listed with the driver side first.

9/8 Setting:
- 808Waterman: Level, but no additional lift info. OME 890 + 5100 in the rear.

8/7 Setting:
- BikeDestroyer: 8/7. Front 1/4" higher than rear. OME 906 + 5100s in the back. Appears to be running a rear bumper.
- bigcap76: 8/7. Front 1/2" higher than rear.. OME 906 + 5160s in the rear. Doesn't appear to be running a rear bumper.
- repo: 2.5" all around. OME 906 + 10mm rear spacer + 5100s in the rear.
- fixxor: 1.9". OME 906 + 5100 rear
- fixxor: 2" in the front. 2.5" in the rear. OME 890 + 5100 in the rear.

7/6 Setting:
- Brian: 2.5" of lift. OME 906 + 5160 in the rear
- jmferg: 1.9" of lift.

6/5 Setting:
- bigcap76: pre lift measurement from hub center to fender was 20". After setting on 6/5 setting, 2.25" of lift achieved
- Mint: 5100 Rear w/ ACDelco 45h2131 (99' Talls) & OME 10mm Rear Spacers... Totals for ~ 1.5" lift all around

6/4 Setting:
- georunner_sjc: Tasteful amount of lift. Front bumper with Eibach 1" Pro Lift springs (E30-82-006-05-02) with 5160s in the rear.

4/3 Setting:
- Brian: 1.75" of lift. Stock '99 with no extra weight. "Fender height before lift was 20.5" all around, now just on either side of 23" (rear higher, front lower)." OME 906 + 5160 in the rear.

 

[Brian.]

Sheesh, I guess I should search my own posts then.

Just measured 20.75 on fronts and 22 rear drivers, 22.5 rear passenger (hub center to LTD fender flares). I've put about 2k miles on the 4runner since that first post, so there's a good bit of settling.

Might have to look at a 10mm spacer for the drivers side rear, wonder how much different the measurement is when I'm not 100% full on fuel.

 

[fourfive]

Just noticed that the recommended clip positions are offset by an additional space for OE rear coils vs 2" lift. Wonder why that is.

 

[Drew76]

I know this is an old thread, just wondering if anyone has any updated info. About to install my 6112's and OME 906 rear springs. I have 5100's in the rear about 3 yrs old I have 1.5" daystar spacers front and rear currently, not on OEM suspension mind you, have crappy Monroe shocks/struts in front with the daystars, been on about 4.5 yrs, (40 000 miles, less on the 5100's) have Moog replacement rear springs same age as the Monroes with the 5100's,I'll be ditching all but the 5100's and my airlift bags in the rear, my current measurements from my 2000 Limited centre hub to flare are:

Front Driver: 21 7/8"
Front Passenger: 22 3/16"

Rear Driver: 22 1/2"
Rear Passenger: 22 7/8"

So, the OME rears should get rid of the Taco lean out back and offsetting the height settings on the 6112's should take care of the front, I'm looking for a little rake 1/4" to 1/2" from Back to Front, assuming my rear height will increase by 1/2" after settling to about 23" to 23 1/4" as the 906 should be a 2" lift spring, what would anyone suggest I set the fronts to? Reading above there seemed to be a big drop in ride height from Brian's original measurements in the first post to a few months later after 2k miles, I'm thinking 7/6 or 6/5 on the fronts, any thoughts?

 

[Romeo1]

I set mine to the 2” setting up front. Same setup as you except 5160 rears.

No lean no sag, no anything. Just a nice even lift all the way around. Pair with some Duro bumps and life is good.

The Bilstein chart is posted a couple of posts back. I just followed that with new Monroe top hats. Those have the inner bushing already permanently mounted, took me a minute to figure that one out. Also, most of the individual redi rod style harbor freight strut compressors that are out there don’t work well on the 6112. You can get it, but it’s a bit of a fight because it binds.

There is also a driver and the passenger side on your 2906 springs.

 

[Drew76]

I set mine to the 2” setting up front. Same setup as you except 5160 rears.

No lean no sag, no anything. Just a nice even lift all the way around. Pair with some Duro bumps and life is good.

The Bilstein chart is posted a couple of posts back. I just followed that with new Monroe top hats. Those have the inner bushing already permanently mounted, took me a minute to figure that one out. Also, most of the individual redi rod style harbor freight strut compressors that are out there don’t work well on the 6112. You can get it, but it’s a bit of a fight because it binds.

There is also a driver and the passenger side on your 2906 springs.

Thanks! So, by the 2" Setting you mean #8/7 circlip location and with 2906 springs you're level all around?

I do have the Monroe top hats as well.

 

[Drew76]

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Just noticed that the recommended clip positions are offset by an additional space for OE rear coils vs 2" lift. Wonder why that is.

In the included instructions they mention that they are aware that aftermarket lift springs like OME compensate for the side to side lean compared to OEM.

 

[Romeo1]

[MENTION=140253]Drew76[/MENTION]
I just followed the instructions for their clip settings up front. They recommended 2” lift coils for the setup.

Given Bilsteins culture of engineering, I felt it was a disservice to not follow their recommendations.

 

[jrm]

6112 6-Driver/5-Pass C-Clip Lift Gain

I didn't see any real world info, maybe others will search and keep this thread current. This is needed because what Bilstein lists for lift height/clip position simply isn't true.

At clip positions 6/7 I had 2.5" lift (claimed 1.6")
At clip positions 3/4 I have a 1.75" lift (claimed 0.7")

This is on a stock 99, no extra weight up front and 2" lift in the back with OME 906 springs. I ran about 100 miles, with 20 of those as fairly high speed washboard, before taking the initial measurement. No clue why I'm seeing numbers So far off from Bilsteins specs. But I'm not the only one..
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/2783844-post22468.html

Looks like another stock limited, but claiming clip positions 6/7 and a 1.9" lift.


Just be warned, you'll likely need to pull the shocks and springs after the initial install to get the right height. I'd advise starting 1 clip lower than they suggest unless you have a plate bumper + winch.

Id like to know what lift people are experiencing using the 6 driver/5 pass c- clip setting? Im currently using the 7 driver/ 6 pass setting and the trucks level with the 906/60028 OME combo in back. Im looking for a bit of rake since i have no weight up front..

Cheers..

 

[Drew76]

Id like to know what lift people are experiencing using the 6 driver/5 pass c- clip setting? Im currently using the 7 driver/ 6 pass setting and the trucks level with the 906/60028 OME combo in back. Im looking for a bit of rake since i have no weight up front..

Cheers..

I changed mine from 7/6 to 6/5, let it settle then got an alignment, I like a little rake too and I have about an inch.

Rear 22 1/2"
Front 21 1/2"

Been like this for close to a year.

 

[phattyduck]

Id like to know what lift people are experiencing using the 6 driver/5 pass c- clip setting? Im currently using the 7 driver/ 6 pass setting and the trucks level with the 906/60028 OME combo in back. Im looking for a bit of rake since i have no weight up front..

Cheers..

You can go with 10mm trim packers in the rear too... But the datasheet states that each clip is 0.3" from the next in ride height.

-Charlie

 

[Romeo1]

I never tried those setting for a slightly lower front ride height, but I imagined it will do what you want for rake.

I know in my initial set up it was a very nice and a fairly level stance just the slightest small degree of rake when empty in the rear. I never measured it with the inclinometer, but it was a very nice stance. Itactually handled some gear pretty well. It's just when I loaded the whole family up and all the gear. It struggled a bit contacting the Duro bumps a lot. That's the only reason I went up in rear coils, and now it's very raked.....lol.

Once I get finished moving, I'm going to take a few weeks and tear apart the entire 4Runner. Next setup will be new lower arms since the bushings are junk, JBA uppers,the front 6112s up to the 2.3" setting to see where lands.

I think the direction you're taking it to make the front and work with the rear springs is a smart way to go. I do like the additional clearance from the rear bumps when I'm wheeling with the 890s, but there's no doubt that it's a very large jump in spring, and it certainly changes the vehicle handling dynamics. I never noticed the body roll before as it was pretty much fine, now I have an Eimkeith bracket sitting on the bench to be welded.

I still have a strong desire to go up to bigger tires than I have currently, but unless that's the goal, I think you have the right idea. Just lower the front a touch and call it a day.

 

[Ac202]

Hello, I’m planning on lifting my stock 2001 and want to go the 6112/5160 route. I’ve been trying to find some info on it but I can’t seem to find much.
I plan on doing 4x innovation bumpers front and rear with tire carrier. Would I have to get different springs in the 6112 to account for the extra weight? What springs should I run in the back? I plan on adding a drawer system for storage in the back as well.
I’m currently running 265/75 16 tires and I might go to 33s once these wear out, would I be fine to fit 33s with a 2inch setting? I want to get it done right the first time since I’d rather get the 6112 pre assembled.

 

[jrm]

I Have An Idea That Might Explain Things..

EDIT: Finally got around to changing the c-clip position to 6 D/ 5 P which yields about ~1.25 -1.50" of lift. With 265/75-16s its an improvement in how it looks as well how it drives. Thanks for the help.





YMMV...

 

[99HorizonBlueT4R]

Hi everyone,

I'm doing a suspension refresh on my 99 SR5 and toytec being local to me is the route I went. I don't have any plans to lift the truck however I do daily it. I plan on swapping the front with the toytec 6112 kit and their spring. For the rear I'm going to run oem spring and 5100s.

For the front I'm seeing varying info on the clip settings. Did we find out what position is best to retain that oem height. Thanks in advance.