Brake Accumulator/Master Cylinder Replacement-Squeal Fix

eng208

New member
I am posting a write up on this in the hopes it will help someone on this forum. I couldn't find anything on this job when I needed it, and refused to pay the 3200 I was quoted to fix the problem.

This is a 2007 4Runner that has 118K of well cared for miles on it. This truck has never been abused or neglected. It developed an air sound that I noticed sometime in the late spring. This is my wife's truck and I rarely drive it. I have a 99 4Runner I drive. I asked her about it and she stated it had been doing that for a while. Now, this was barely noticeable, but I pick up on little stuff that just isn't "quite right." I started looking at the possible causes and read about the accumulator. I checked on this one while the truck was running and it cycled about every 4-6 seconds. I figured this was going to be a problem, since it would be like riding around constantly pressing the brakes and the little motor can't sustain that very long. It was also very hot. So hot I could not touch it after driving just a few miles home.

I was discouraged by what I found. First the price. Everyone that had this problem reported having to pay between 3100 and 4500 dollars to fix it. The second discouragement was the lack of information available for the repair. I am under the opinion of "if man built it, I can fix it."

After a few hours set aside for searching the part, and figuring out the best thing to do is replace the entire unit instead of trying to piece something together, I found Boch Toyota South as the absolute best place to buy this from. The parts tech I spoke to even recommended I call Toyota to see if they could help with some reimbursement. I did this and was fortunate enough to get a very good credit toward Toyota parts available without an expiration date. This was a good will gesture for being a loyal customer for nearly 20 years. I saved up enough money, and ordered the part, along with some other needed Toyota goodies. It arrived in 4 days and was exactly what I needed.

There's the back story, now for the pictures. I didn't photo the job, but I think I have enough pictures that I can get the information across. It really is not a very hard job at all. In fact, the timing belt, water pump replacement on a 3.4 is much more involved.:heh:

First, this is what you get when you order the part. For the 2007, it is part number 4705035030. This covers several year models and you can call with your VIN to verify the correct number. This is the old one, but the new one is very similar.
photo_539.JPG

photo_438.JPG


It will come with some brake fluid in it, so that tells me the unit is bench bled at the factory. Do not remove the little plugs until you are ready to reinstall the brake lines.

The first step is draining as much brake fluid from the reservoir as possible. Do not spill brake fluid on paint, it will soften and damage anything it comes in contact with. I enlisted my wife for help and gave her a syringe and fuel line to remove the fluid while I started removing the unit from the firewall. I then placed multiple shop rags all around my work area. Number the brake lines in a sequential order just in case they get flipped. It could happen and you don't want that! I also loosened the brake lines just a bit but not enough to start leaking. Disconnect all of the connectors. All but the big connector are squeeze and pull connectors. They should come off fairly easily. Do not break these. The large connector has a white lock on it. The lock slides toward the front of the vehicle and pulls the connector off as it is moved. Very ingenious if you ask me. Move these out of the way to avoid damage.
photo_266.JPG


Remove the small clip that locks the pin connecting the master cylinder piston to the brake pedal.
pedal_pin.JPG


I also removed the steering rod protector due to it catching one of the nuts and being in the way. It has 4 small plastic lock nuts and is very easy to remove.
photo_140.JPG


There are only 4-12 mm nuts holding the unit to the firewall. Use a universal joint to get to the top nuts. It will make life much easier.
firewall.JPG


Once the last nut is removed, (I made the top left nut be the last one to keep the unit from dropping), Have your assistant hold the weight until the brake lines are removed. The brake lines will have to be pushed down as the unit is pulled out of the firewall, but use some finesse and it will come out.

Now carefully put the new unit in its place and make sure the rod is above the brake pedal under the dash. Again, it helps to have two people. The studs on the unit will easily pass through the firewall. Make sure the gasket is in place. Attach the nuts to the studs, line the rod up with the pedal and reinstall the pin and locking clip.

Next, very carefully, start the brake lines in the new master cylinder. DO NOT cross thread these. Do this by hand until you have several threads going smoothly. Once you put a wrench on these and cross thread it, this unit is DONE and it's another 1600 bucks! I don't know that a seal would ever occur after it is cross threaded. Tighten the small line nuts but remember this is in aluminum.
photo_340.JPG


The rest is filling the brake fluid with new DOT 3 to the line. You will have to bleed the brakes. For this, I instructed my lovely wife on how to work the pedal and I moved to the passenger rear. Break the bleeder valve loose with a 6 point socket so you don't round off the nut. A line wrench will work wonders here. I had the wife pump the brakes and hold them while I opened the valve. This was done 10 times with the truck off. I got very little fluid out, but I equate this to a "bench bleed" and wanted to get what air was in the system down in the lines before putting pressure to the unit. I then had her turn the key on to pressurize the system. There was an alarm when the key was turned on and all of the lights were lit, but after pressure was applied to the sytem by the new accumulator, the alarm quit. I again went through the bleed process about 20 times, checking the reservoir before going to the next position. The order I used was Passenger rear, Driver rear, Passenger front, driver front. The front did not take near as long before good fluid appeared and the pedal was firm.
After doing this, the VSC and Trac indicators will be lit and need to be initialized at the Toyota dealership. It should be about 100.00 to do this.

Good luck and take your time:bravo:
 
Last edited:
Register to hide this ad
What "air sound" did you hear? Just a hissing air leak?

I've heard this thing run before when pressing the brakes with the engine off, but never really noticed it other than that. Never felt the temp of mine, but I might investigate it.

I'm a little confused as to why they didn't just use a traditional brake booster... This design is just asking for a ~100-150k mi failure. Reminds me of some crap BMW would put in their cars.
 
What "air sound" did you hear? Just a hissing air leak?

I've heard this thing run before when pressing the brakes with the engine off, but never really noticed it other than that. Never felt the temp of mine, but I might investigate it.

I'm a little confused as to why they didn't just use a traditional brake booster... This design is just asking for a ~100-150k mi failure. Reminds me of some crap BMW would put in their cars.
 
It sounded like a HVAC door actuator leak. Honda and many others are using basically this same set up with an electric motor and accumulator to pressurize the system. I think it has something to do with emissions and vacuum.
 
2004 Toytoa

I am excited to read your thread. I just got up the nerve and monies to order my PUMP ASSY, BRAKE BOOSTER W/ACCUMULATOR. My local dealership quoted me 2 years ago $3600 to fix the problem. My bf said NO WAY and promised me to fix it. Well yes, two years later and we both are finally getting around to it. I cannot wait to my 4runner back up and running (been sitting in my garage). :dance::heh::party:
 
I have a 2001 4runner complete master assembly for sale. Good working condition. Way cheaper than Toyota!!! PM me
 
No fluid to rear brakes

Hi I just replaced the master cylinder myself too and and not getting any fluid to the rear brakes. Think you could help? I’ve tried everything I can think of...
 
Hi I just replaced the master cylinder myself too and and not getting any fluid to the rear brakes. Think you could help? I’ve tried everything I can think of...

did you get it resolved? what was the solution?


I plan on doing this fix myself in a few weeks...
 
Brake Accumulator/Master Cylinder Replacement 04 Limited

I realize this thread is several years old so I'm hoping my reply pings someone who may be in the know on how to address the issue I am having with removing the brake accumulator/master cylinder from my 04' Limited.

The issue I'm running into is with the removal of the two LEFT nuts of the four-nut cluster which holds the brake master cylinder to the firewall. There is an aluminum brace which holds what appears to be part of the ABS unit. The ABS unit is a black plastic rectangular box with several wiring harnesses connected at the bottom. I've disconnected the wiring harnesses and the bottom nut holding the aluminum brace in place but the access to the two left-side bolts is still VERY tight. I've attached a picture to illustrate what I'm looking at. The brace and unit are shown at the bottom of the picture. You can see the bottom-left nut just above the middle of the aluminum brace. With the brace and the ABS box/unit in place I cannot get an open-end wrench or socket wrench in place with enough room to loosen the nuts (or to tighten the nuts when I replace the master cylinder unit).

Has anyone who's removed the four master cylinder bolts run into this issue, and if so, what did you do to open up access to the left side nuts?

Thanks in-advance.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4605.jpg
    IMG_4605.jpg
    125.9 KB · Views: 4,649
I realize this thread is several years old so I'm hoping my reply pings someone who may be in the know on how to address the issue I am having with removing the brake accumulator/master cylinder from my 04' Limited.

The issue I'm running into is with the removal of the two LEFT nuts of the four-nut cluster which holds the brake master cylinder to the firewall. There is an aluminum brace which holds what appears to be part of the ABS unit. The ABS unit is a black plastic rectangular box with several wiring harnesses connected at the bottom. I've disconnected the wiring harnesses and the bottom nut holding the aluminum brace in place but the access to the two left-side bolts is still VERY tight. I've attached a picture to illustrate what I'm looking at. The brace and unit are shown at the bottom of the picture. You can see the bottom-left nut just above the middle of the aluminum brace. With the brace and the ABS box/unit in place I cannot get an open-end wrench or socket wrench in place with enough room to loosen the nuts (or to tighten the nuts when I replace the master cylinder unit).

Has anyone who's removed the four master cylinder bolts run into this issue, and if so, what did you do to open up access to the left side nuts?

Thanks in-advance.

I haven't had to remove mine, but I recently read in another topic of someone having the same issue you are, another member replied saying he was able to get them removed using extensions and swivels with his socket, he said it still wasn't easy but he was able to get them loose and back together again.

I might suggest trying to use a flexible extension as well, if you have never seen or heard of this type of extension, here a search link that will show some, they are sorta made from a spiral spring type material and can flex a great deal to get on hard to access bolts/nuts.

flexible extension 3/8 - Bing
 
Last edited:
Brake Accumulator/Master Cylinder Replacement 04 Limited

Thanks very much for the tip. Prior to receiving your note I contacted the online parts vendor who I am purchasing the brake pump/accumulator electric motor from (supposedly the replacement of this motor fixes the screetching noise the majority of the time). They stated that I need to remove the ABS computer and bracket (the black box and brace I mentioned, see attached picture). To remove it I have to disconnect several wiring harnesses, remove the bottom nut, and loosen the top nut (difficult to access). The top part of the bracket holding the ABS computer is open-ended so by removing the bottom nut, loosening the top nut and disconnecting all the wiring harnesses I should be able to remove the computer and bracket in one piece.

So my Plan A is to remove the ABS computer and bracket. To access the top nut I had to purchase an extra-long 10mm wrench. The extra reach of the XL wrench is needed to provide access to the top nut holding the ABS computer brace and unit in place. Once removed I should have ample access to both of the left-side nuts holding the brake master cylinder assembly to the firewall.

Plan B is to purchase a flexible extension like the one you provided the link to and see if this does the trick. My only concern is that there is not even enough room for me to slide my hand in between the ABS computer assembly/brace and the brake assembly hardware under the dash. So I will not be able to use my hand to get the socket on the nut, and what concerns me more, is that I may have a hard time getting the nut back on when attempting to re-install the unit after replacing the electric motor.

Keeping my fingers crossed that Plan A works.


Thanks again and I'll post an update once I complete the repair.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4608.jpg
    IMG_4608.jpg
    95.2 KB · Views: 2,330
Hey, sorry, have been meaning to respond to your question! I just did the repair not long ago and had to install/remove the unit several times while troubleshooting, so I got pretty efficient at it lol
The first couple times, I went with the "extension/swivel" method, and it was difficult and ultimately, not very efficient. The best method I found was to remove the vertical bracket for the brake pedal. It opens up the area quite nicely. Putting the retainer back in the pin afterwards was the new pain in the butt, but I preferred it to fumbling around with floppy swivels.
 
did you get it resolved? what was the solution?


I plan on doing this fix myself in a few weeks...

Wow, sorry, I never got a notification.

It's probably too late, but hopefully someone else will still benefit.

It turns out that the rear brakes are controlled by the brake module and have to be bled electronically. I tried bleeding the rears for hours before finally giving up and having it towed to the dealer where they hooked it up and had it running within the hour. They charged between $50 & $100, which after all the fuss, I was more than willing to pay. It was a lot of hassle but I saved over $2,500 buying used and installing myself, so it was worth it IMO
 
Blown ABS Control Module- FIXED!

Thanks for the great write up on replacing ABS control module. I found a used unit on ebay and discovered it was a local sale. I was quoted $250 when I called and it was a great deal.

I have a couple notes-

I was able to use a small pump off a bottle with a hose and get it deeper in the brake fluid tank when removing the old fluid. Towards the front of the tank there is a 1/4" or so gap to feed the tube into.

After removing the black panel that has two 10 mm bolts and sits behind the plastic dash panel, I hope no trouble using a long extension, swivel and deep socket to remove control module. Getting the nuts started turned out to be surprising easy. I had just enough room for my arm and hand to reach the bolts.

I bled system following Toyota repair manual and it's working perfect.

I appreciate this community, thank you.
 
@DBC, niceeee. what year is your truck.
seems you bled without a scan tool

could you post the ebay link for 250, if your truck is 05 upwards
 

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
278,316
Messages
3,554,110
Members
248,016
Latest member
Advally Service

Trending content

Back
Top