Brake upgrade?

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I'm looking at replacing the rotors and pads at all four corners of my runner. I would like to try a set of higher performance brakes. What do you all recommend? I was looking at the powerstop z23 kit but I don't like the idea of cross drilled rotors. Who makes a nice kit with slotted, but not cross drilled, rotors?
 
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Also I forgot to measure my rotors yesterday when I did my tire rotation. There are two size rotors listed for my truck. Mine is a V8 SR5. Should I have the smaller or larger rotors?
 
You should have the smaller rotors due to being an SR5. You can confirm by checking the casting letters on your calipers.
 
If I pull a tire I can just measure. Which model have the bigger brakes? All V8s? Or Sports and Limiteds?
 
I'm looking at replacing the rotors and pads at all four corners of my runner. I would like to try a set of higher performance brakes. What do you all recommend? I was looking at the powerstop z23 kit but I don't like the idea of cross drilled rotors. Who makes a nice kit with slotted, but not cross drilled, rotors?

Stop Tech slotted rotors are really nice but I wish the bank would have allowed me to get DBA's. Be sure to check your calipers while you are in there if you need new ones I found that NAPA's "Eclipse" calipers were a dream when I did my brake job a few months ago. Personally I love the Hawk LTS pads I used but I am not happy with amount of dust so in future I will go back to an OEM pad. Lastly be sure to bleed all that nasty old fluid out...

Also if your wheels are large enough it isn't that hard to upgrade to the larger diameter.
 
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I would like to try a set of higher performance brakes.

If you want more than just pads & rotors Rotara makes a 6 piston front kit & 4 piston rear kit. I recall the front being about $3400 & the rear kit being about $2800. Stop tech offers a front ST40 kit which is about $2900. Not sure what your checkbook looks like this month, but that's another option for you.
 
If you want to be cost effective, use your SR5 calipers as cores to get Napa Eclipse calipers from the Sport Edition (direct swap). Then order the larger rotors of your choice to fit them. Here's what I did, and the brakes are more than capable:

All Pro front braided stainless steel brake lines
All Pro rear braided stainless steel brake lines
EBC USR Sport slotted brake rotors incl. Sport Edition fronts
EBC Yellow Stuff brake pads
NAPA reman Sport Edition front calipers
NAPA reman rear calipers
 
I just installed 338 mm bigger PowerStop rotors (and bigger oem remanufactured calipers) they drilled and slotted and I honestly will never go back to oem since breaking performance improvement is astounding. There is simply no comparison. The breaking distance from 60 mph to 0 probably reduced in half! I was sceptical at first due to PowerStop rotors and pads reletivly small price but after couple thousands miles I'm 100 % convinced I will not install any other rotors and pads on this truck. The bonus is, their ceramic pad produce virtually zero dust compare to oem and Raybestos that I had installed prior. I'm not sure why everyone scared of drilled rotors. I tried oem and napa premium rotors before with napa being the worst of them all.

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Side by side with crappy napa premium rotors which rusted and warped in less than a year, never again, complete waste of money

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I run slotted and dimpled (not drilled) rotors from brakeperformance.com. I'm also using their premium brake pads. Stopping performance is great. Brake pads are quiet with very little dust.

The only issue I have with them is they tend to get a little pad build-up on them from time to time. The only thing I've found to help with that is to go do the brake bed-in procedure to burn off the build-up. The other thing I've found is that no shop I've found will put them on a brake lathe to turn them. That means, if and when these rotors warp or get grooved, I will have to buy another set of rotors.
 
I bought our 4runner used and it had slotted and drilled rotors on it. That was 112,000 miles ago. Replaced the pads when I changed the brake calipers around 90,000 to 95,000 miles ago. Have not had any problems at all since then. No idea of the manufacturer of the rotors and if the pads are oem. So, I would say the slotted and drilled rotors do fine.
 
I'm in the same process with upgrading my brakes, they're are very worn out on the rear.
Gonna go with Hawk LTS brake pads or EBC Greenstuff, can't make my mind up.

On the rotors, I might get slotted from BrakePerformance, they're the cheapest.
They look promising with a 2 year warranty against warping.
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Either the StopTech slotted rotors or EBC Ulitmax Slotted Rotors.
I can't decide, but one of those I'm going to buy.
 
As with anything performance for vehicles, there are too many options out there. Yet, I personally ONLY use Hawk HPS pads and Powerslot Slotted rotors on everything I own. I have a high performance SRT8 Charger, a little pre-runner fast off road truck and my Yota is running this same package. Very little dust, no noise, and the best non-racing brake pad compound I have found. I can go on for an hour on brake technology but Im too lazy to write that much.
I have tried other brands, and if I cant find the Hawk HPS pads,(which has never happened yet,) I would run an OEM pad.
As far as rotors, I only use Slotted. Slotted rotors, keep my pads clean, and helps to remove some heat. OEM sized cross drilled rotors if you are not careful, can and will reduce your braking ability under hard, performance, or heavy load conditions. The reason you ask! Cross drilled rotors in an OEM size remove more braking surface, up to and sometimes more than 11% of the rotor area, thus resulting in less braking performance. So, slotted is the way to go for and upgrade. I have been running this combo for well over 20 years with fantastic results. Look at most forms of motorsports and you will see more cars running slotted over cross drilled. Just my opinion. Thanks for reading.
 
Wheel Spacers front/rear

Tooltime19, for a new member, could you explain why you opted for different size of wheel spacers front/rear, any performance impact?

Thanks,
 
Get yourself some DBA 4x4 Survival Series Rotors with some Hawk LTS Pads. You will be extremely impressed with the increase in braking power. Not to mention how damn good those rotors look on a 4runner...very manly.
 
Any clearance issues with the backing plate when going from 319mm to the 338's? Can you just put big rotors and and calipers and that's it?

Thanks,
Chris
 
Any clearance issues with the backing plate when going from 319mm to the 338's? Can you just put big rotors and and calipers and that's it?

It is my understanding that you have three options:

1) replace it (a PITA).
2) cut it (also a PITA, but less labor than 1).
3) Bend it back.
 

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