Bridgestone Revo vs Michelin LTX MS

[Leebo]

Sorry if this is somewhat of a repeat thread. I'm trying to decide between these two tires for my '99 4Runner (265/70R16):

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo vs Michelin LTX MS

Revo's seem to be very popular and for the most part, people are pleased with them. I just spoke to a local dealer that I usually do business with and they recommended the LTX over the Revo. Price was about the same, but they liked the LTX better.

My 4Runner is 100% city/highway driven. No off road use. I currently have BFG Road Terrain tires that are about 40k miles old and about 4 years old. There is still tread, but they are just too slippery.

My #1 area I hope to get improvement on is wet traction. #2 is ride quality.

From what I can read on this forum, the Revo seems to be a winner, but I don't see as much on the LTX. Should I just go w/ the Revo and be happy?

All advice welcome.

 

[Falls]

I can't say for the Mich. tires but the Revo is a great on road tire.

 

[Kmvreter]

Sorry if this is somewhat of a repeat thread...

My 4Runner is 100% city/highway driven. No off road use. I currently have BFG Road Terrain tires that are about 40k miles old and about 4 years old. There is still tread, but they are just too slippery.

My #1 area I hope to get improvement on is wet traction. #2 is ride quality.

All advice welcome.

You'll be sorry because here we go with another REVO vs. whatever thread.

From what you describe I would get the Mich Cross Terrain. The LTX M/S is long wearing but I would classify it more as a "pickup" truck tire vs. the CT which has excellent traction and ride as a "SUV" tire. I'm repeating myself by saying you get what you pay for.

 

[Chalk Outline]

I haven't had either of these, but I did run Mich LTX A/Ts on my old SUV. They were really a great tire, quiet and safe on the road, stout enough for light to moderate offroading and they lasted over 90k miles, although really they were about done after 80k.

 

[Climb14er]

I'm on my second set of the LTX M & S, the first set went 72K with lots of highway, off road, and I mean tough off road, and lots of gravel forest service roads. This was on a Toyota pickup 4 x 4.

The LTX's handled incredibly well, strong, in rain and snow they were excellent. Absolutely no downside for this tire for me.

I'm on my second set now and same thing, no problems, did fantastic in the deep snows of the last four storms.

Out here, Bridgestone tires through Firestone dealers IMHO is not something that inspires confidence.

If Discount Tire carried the Revos, I'd consider them.

 

[Thai]

Re: Re: Bridgestone Revo vs Michelin LTX MS

From what you describe I would get the Mich Cross Terrain.

I second this. If on-road is all you want, then get the Cross Terrains or Goodyear Fortera.

 

[gizmopt2002]

If Discount Tire carried the Revos, I'd consider them.

Odd Out here ALL Discount Tires carry the Revo's, you just have to ask for them, also they price match anywhere, they price matched with Tire Rack for me. Only 146 a tire, plus a free one, because I had a flat.

 

[Climb14er]

Odd Out here ALL Discount Tires carry the Revo's, you just have to ask for them, also they price match anywhere, they price matched with Tire Rack for me. Only 146 a tire, plus a free one, because I had a flat.

Thanks for the heads up.

I went to my regular Discount Tire shop and they told me that they can 'get 'em in' but they usually sell many more Michelins instead.

I'm going to call 'em up tomorrow and double check with the manager.

Here's a question re: size...

Which tire size can I substitute for the stock 265-65-17 that are slightly larger and more common sized? Anyone know? How does the other 'other' size perform?

 

[MW 4Runner]

Here's a question re: size...

Which tire size can I substitute for the stock 265-65-17 that are slightly larger and more common sized? Anyone know? How does the other 'other' size perform?

265/70-17, lots of people run them, including me, and other than the speedo being off by 3% or so I can tell no difference in accelleration or ride versus stock tire size.

 

[Climb14er]

265/70-17, lots of people run them, including me, and other than the speedo being off by 3% or so I can tell no difference in accelleration or ride versus stock tire size.

Great, thanks.

The 3% speedo difference...

If stock is 65mph, are we talking 62mph with the series 70 tire?

 

[MW 4Runner]

Great, thanks.

The 3% speedo difference...

If stock is 65mph, are we talking 62mph with the series 70 tire?

Yeah thats pretty close... Check this LINK out.

 

[Leebo]

Thanks for all the feedback. Tough choice but it is sounding like the Michelin Cross Terrains or Goodyear Fortera TripleTred's may be a more natural choice for road use only. Assuming the customer reviews on TireRack are reasonable, the Fortera TripleTreds win.

Thanks again for the advice.

 

[wolfgang]

From the link it says if Speedo says speed is 60 MPG then with the 70 series you'er actually doing 62 MPH!

 

[Climb14er]

From the link it says if Speedo says speed is 60 MPG then with the 70 series you'er actually doing 62 MPH!

Yeah, you're right, I just checked it out!

I spoke with the manager of the Discount Tire store where I've been going to for many years. This guy knows his stuff especially for Colorado.

His recommendation for me based on what I use a 4 x 4 vehicle for and how I drive:

265-70-17

Michelin LTX M & S

Mostly because I drive 90% of the highways just to get to the off roads, forest service roads and really tough off roads.

He said that I'm used to them being on two trucks and that they are smoother running than the Revos.

Not to take anything away from the Revos he said, but he sells ten times or more of the LTX M & S tires than the Revos.

These were his words... not to start a war. :

 

[MW 4Runner]

From the link it says if Speedo says speed is 60 MPG then with the 70 series you'er actually doing 62 MPH!

Originally posted by Climb14er
If stock is 65mph, are we talking 62mph with the series 70 tire?

I guess I should have worded that differently... Yes, with the 70 series tires when the speedo says 62 you are actually doing 65. It under reports speed and mileage by 3.4%

 

[Leebo]

Thanks again for the advice. I ended up going w/ the Revos. Got a good deal on them and overall liked the tread pattern the best. So far, I'm pretty pleased with them but I'm waiting to have some wet roads to test their grip. Snow/ice grip was fair but as expected.

 

[SoCalRunner]

i'm in the same boat...getting ready to ditch my dunlops@30k miles. I was gonna get the 25/65-17 but asked a tire guy at Sams about going to the 265/70-17 he said it could be done and i could go to the dealer to have the "computer" reset to report speed and mileage correctly. Does this sound right to anyone?

If i did get the taller tire would the change in mileage be noticeable?

 

[Leebo]

After about 1000 miles on the Revo's, I'm a bit less than pleased. They are a bit noisier than I expected. Guess I'll get used to that, but I'm thinking now that I should have gone w/ the Michellins. These new Revos are noisier than my worn out BFG Rugged Trails.

Another gripe... road wander. After putting these on, the car wanders on the highway a lot more and gives less of a connected feeling with the road. I never noticed this with the old tires, but I figured it was time for an alignment. Front toe was out a bit (as in, it was out of spec AND it was toed out, not in). In my sports car circles, that's definitely going to promote a darty and wandering handling. The alignment shop toed it in a hair and it is better but still a bit floaty. The camber/caster wasn't touched since it was technically in spec, but it could use a little more tweaking. Will hopefully have it in soon to have them recheck.

Lastly, it seems that the shocks are pretty worn on this 8 year old, 88k mile vehicle so I just bought a new set of Monroe Sensatracs. I'll put on them soon. Even after getting the tires well balanced, it still hops and jiggles as I go down the road. Weird thing is that I just don't remember it doing that much with the old tires. I'm at about 32psi of air pressure in the tires all the way around; doesn't seem to be the culprit.

 

[Leebo]

Well, after having the tires rebalanced on a better balancer, the vibrations have improved. Also, there must be something way wrong with my tire pressure gauge because I apparently had 37psi all the way around (per the tire shop) although I measured 32psi at home. They lowered the pressure to 31psi. It tracks much straighter now (less wander) and the ride quality is better but not .

Still for my tastes, they are a little noisy and just not as ideal as I would like for highway use. Rain traction is good and the wandering I experienced is improved but not great (now that I got the air pressure right) but they are just a little harsh and noisy for my tastes out on the highway. If I did any light off roading, these would be keepers. I'm seriously considering selling these in case anyone is interested. As of right now, they have about 1250 miles and 12/32-13/32 tread left (new is 13/32).